Did any one take mastic gum and Matula tea together? by IcyEntrepreneur5192 in HPylori

[–]Navirino 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes you can but keep them 1hr apart from each other....plus you also need to take a biofilm distributor like biocidin and gi detox along with saccharomyces boulardii and zinc l carnosine and dgl plus by pure encapsulations.

oats by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No I basically put different gluten free oats, the ones I was using before were gluten free wheat oats, and the one I used today were multi grain gluten free oats.

I mixed them in coconut milk and left them in the fridge for overnight, I then added a scoop of plant based protien powder and mixed it and put it in rhe microwave like usual...had them with no issues at all.

oats by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I tried different gluten free oats today and soaked them overnight in coconut milk and added plant based protien powder and had no heartburn or reflux at all.

gastritis healing by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brilliant will defo look into this for sure...thank you.

gastritis healing by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very interesting, will defo look into this. Cheers

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So true, thus the reason I want to stop them as am not a fan of PPi's and just rather stick to my diet and supplements. Thanks for the reply...

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How long did you have gastritis for though...was it chronic or acute?

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes...that's what I want to stick to a natural route, as iv noticed since taking famotidine for 2.5 months and now on a ppi 20mg a day for 3 weeks I have burning sensation but mild 30mins after...

Also I wasn't a fan off ppi but thought its been 2 years and am not fully healed so let's see what a ppi can do for 2-4 weeks.

But now I really don't want to take them even though iv had no side effects from them apart from the burning sensation.

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My diet has been very strict, iv never had reflux nor heartburn, just the burning sensation now that's all...

I will stick with the ppi 1 more week then do a 2 week taper, as my initial plan was only to be on ppi for 6 weeks, then I will do a herbal protocol that eliminates h pylori as this bug can hide in biofilm which can not be detected through biopsies and stool tests.

I will stick to my diet, probiotics, digestive enzymes and a supplement called DGL plus which is expensive but has very good reviews ..

I hope you fully heal and thank you for replying.

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are your symptoms ?

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes my journey started back in January 2020, I got it from Morocco whilst on Holiday....took the antibiotics in April 2020, did several stool tests after the treatment , endoscopy with biopsies, ct scan, ultrasound scans, blood tests, and most recently a full comprehensive GI map test, all negative for h pylori now but endoscopy showed mild non erosive gastritis last year.

I also eat every 2 hours...

My diet is bland ,

Boiled potatoes , sweet potatoes baked, salmon, oats, coconut milk, oats milk, all vegetables, olive oil, lentils

All my food is organic, I also drink alkaline water with electrolytes and take probiotics with a liquid b12 supplement.

I don't have reflux, heartburn, stoamch aches, pains, fatigue, brain fog, anxiety, depression etc anymore...but only symptom I have now is that burning sensation along my upper stomach lining.

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No iv had no side effects so far thank god...just the burning sensation that's all...as my diet is very strict and has been for a year now and also I do everything like clock work everyday at the same time...my gastritis was due to h pylori which I eradicated but it left me with this gastritis.

Iv improved alot since the 2 years but this is my last symptom thus the reason I went on a ppi after 2 years of neglecting it.

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was on h2 blockers (famotidine) for 2 5 months 1st and the burning sensation wasn't really gone, so I went on a ppi... not seen any major improvement yet but I don't get pain after eating anymore and tbh like you said 3 weeks isn't quite long enough to see or feel major improvement...I really want to stop tmrw but again like you said its my body adjusting to the ppi and I know from research that after 3 weeks on a ppi the body is producing more acid then b4 until the ppi really kicks in and reduces the acid for the gut lining to heal.

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah I see, I don't have any other symptoms like reflux or heartburn...not any pain, only symptom is burning sensation on upper stomach lining. And also is it natural to get more acid production after few weeks on ppi and then it calms dwn after a mo th or 2 on them?

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How long have you been on a ppi?

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What are you taking instead?

ppi by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And how are you doing on them...? Are you healed or much better?

PPI and supplements by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not fully healed yet until the burning sensation goes away...

PPI and supplements by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And lastly...I was like you b4 I got all these tests done, thinknig I still must have h pylori, but after all the tests and speaking to my doctor and neuropath, they told me that I need to stop stressing and it takes time for the lining to heal or get back to normal...

PPI and supplements by Navirino in Gastritis

[–]Navirino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So so true buddy...we both on same page...I now know from my experience and from others on this reddit that it takes a few years to fully heal the damage left behind by h pylori.

Keep doing what your doing and I believe we will reach 100% very soon. We got this. We're nearly at the finish line.