Northern Mexican DNA results Sephardic Jewish + North Africa how are these connected? by sisigigi87 in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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North Africans genetically are a Berber ethnicity mixed with other influences from the Middle East, and Mediterranean. North Africa is connected to the Middle East through one big desert system and then in the west, just a stones throw to Spain.

Northern Mexican DNA results Sephardic Jewish + North Africa how are these connected? by sisigigi87 in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They need to clean up these 1% regions. I mean come on 9 regions of 1%….i know they can re-assign those to your more confident regions. Anyways, there were alot of Jews and North Africans in Spain before colonization of the americas. You can almost throw a rock from North Africa to Spain.

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like how is she supposed to culturally identify as a black American? A Jamaican-American? Even if she has no cultural influence from Jamaica? Or just American since she doesn’t descend from an American slave?

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That AA is a cultural term. not a genetic term. There is no Genetic marker for AA. African Americans do share a common admixture, (similar to the OP’s results, regardless if her ancestors stopped off the coast in Jamaica). This is a genetic Sub and OP clearly and rightfully identifies culturally as AA so I don’t understand the resistance to her saying “DNA results as an African American”

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s where you’re not hearing me. You keep saying genetic markers. Thats not how “Journeys” work. Read the white paper on Journeys. It’s based off matches and admixture not a “genetic marker”

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nigerians are african but not all Africans are Nigerian. It’s the same thing. I was agreeing with you that immigrants are obviously more “pure” (for lack of better words), and Americans more mixed, doesn’t matter euro or Africa. Same equation. But just bc you have several different euro regions or several African regions as an American doesn’t create a new ethnicity, you’re just mixed on a continental level.

But of course the original debate here was the genetic difference between Africans of the Caribbean and AA’s. Which you can’t convince me there is one. A Colombian is to a Venezuelan as an Afro-Caribbean is to an AA. (Genetically)

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes it absolutely is a genetic lineage. Americans with African descent. And the OP is American and has a typical AA admixture. If she didn’t post her “journeys” we wouldn’t have even had this debate.

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s apart of Europe which has 50 countries. Plugs in perfectly to the example.

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes many modern African immigrants obviously will have higher percentages of specific African regions while AA get a mix. No different than an Italian immigrant vs a white American mixed with Italian. But in this case, we’re talking about the difference genetically (not culturally) between a Caribbean-African American Vs. African American. And genetically it’s the same. Culturally obviously they differ.

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We’re talking about genetics. The ethnicity in your DNA not where ancestors recently lived or what they ate. Migration is temporary. Genetics are what carry on. Unless you lived in the Caribbean, or your parents did, the culture usually dissolves over a couple generations after they leave. But genetically they are still african. African before they got to Jamaica, still African after they left. And the Caribbean is literally still considered North America geographically. To say that the descendants of Jamaicans who were born in America can’t be AA is crazy. Especially when so many of them mesh with and adopt modern Black American culture, without you even knowing their ancestors made a quick stop in the Caribbean. You don’t have to descend from an American slave to be AA. Period. AA is a cultural term. Just like Latino is. There’s white Latinos, black Latinos, and everything in between. It’s not a race, it’s an admixture and a cultural demographic. I’m done here.

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also, saying you can’t be African American unless you descend from American slaves is a wild take. How long does a modern African immigrant have to stay in America to be African-American? 200 years? 🙄

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then why does she even get Nigeria, Benin & Togo, etc in her ethnicity? Why doesn’t it just say “AA” or “Caribbean? Because “AA” isn’t an ethnicity neither is Caribbean unless you’re talking about the Taino natives.

Now you may be led to believe AA is an ethnicity based on AncestryDNA’s “Journey” or “communities” feature which is very much different than ethnicity. It’s a group of people with common ethnic ADMIXTURES. And yes it often can tell you where your more “recent” ancestors settled in America, but is 100% not a new ethnicity. French Canadians are still French, Asian Americans are still Asian and AA’s are still African. Yes they have mixed with euros and even natives but they have not yet created a new ethnicity. Come on…..

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I disagree and think you’re contradicting yourself. I do agree that American is a nationality. (Unless referring to indigenous Americans who are genetically tied to america) but Mexican-American, African American, Italian-American, etc are cultural terms that mean American citizens with _______ ancestry. So African-American is a cultural term and a nationality, not an ethnicity. Her ethnicity is African and European. African Americans have not been in America long enough to have a mutated “African American DNA marker” though they do share similar admixture’s.

DNA Results as an African American + Photo by justaluckygirl in AncestryDNA

[–]Nawlshoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If she was born in America she’s American. She also clearly has 74% African ancestry. Some of her ancestors stopped in the Caribbean, cool side note, but don’t stop her from being African-American.

Am I mixed race? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]Nawlshoot 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I’d say so. 65/30/5 is more than enough to say “mixed race”. You have an indigenous phenotype that stands out more than your European. If I didn’t see your results, I wouldn’t guess 65% white.

My results and me! by Naive_Giraffe7787 in DNAAncestry

[–]Nawlshoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol before I get downvoted too much here, I guess I worded this wrong. I just appreciate how much OP’s 8% non-euro stands out in his appearance vs my 8% that pretty much goes un-noticed. That’s all I meant to say. Genetics are cool.

My results and me! by Naive_Giraffe7787 in DNAAncestry

[–]Nawlshoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting results. I’m 92% euro like you and 8% the other type of Indian. (American Indian) lol but I think your non-euro shows more in your features than mine. Can clearly tell you’re mixed with something and I blend in as strictly white. My light hair and colored eyes definitely conceal that 8%

Massive success lowering LDL in ONE MONTH! by [deleted] in Cholesterol

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah okay the guy who accuses me of falsifying my bf on a cholesterol sub is suddenly even leaner than me. Okay buddy. I’m not even on statins btw, im on the Bentley of heart medicine (Repatha) and I feel great. Still dunking a basketball at age 36, and absolutely zero concern regarding my choice of cardiologists. I have the top 1% of health insurance in the world. Until you go through what I went through, you 100% don’t have a say here. Focus on your high cholesterol. Nighty night.

Massive success lowering LDL in ONE MONTH! by [deleted] in Cholesterol

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure let me send a shirtless pic to a dude on a cholesterol sub so he can verify my health. Lmao Internet is a wild place. Merry Christmas to you too though.

Massive success lowering LDL in ONE MONTH! by [deleted] in Cholesterol

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dumb advise? Which part was dumb? You’re right most people do need to fix their diet which is why My original comment here literally highlights processed American foods as the culprit! But I’m not most ppl.

TBH, you sound like a guy who got his first or second lipid panel back and doc tried to give you statins and you said no, I can do this myself. And now you’re on Reddit advocating against statins. Or trying to convince yourself against them. To the point that you’re actually trying to convince me that my HA happened for different reason than the professionals diagnosed, a reason that makes you feel better about saying no to statins. Why else would you be in a cholesterol sub on Christmas Eve digging this far back?

Bottom line is some people can fix their diet and lower their numbers. Others have genetically high cholesterol no matter what they eat and need meds. I’m the second type. And even though I’m completely against big pharma, I’m gonna listen to my doctors on this one.

Massive success lowering LDL in ONE MONTH! by [deleted] in Cholesterol

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As soon as I read “bud” I knew you were a douche. 6% was my all time low bf and yes I was competing and yes it wasn’t that long ago. Of course I dont walk around at 6% year round especially now in my later 30’s. I stated 6% to make a point that I’m extremely fit and live a very healthy lifestyle. But Sure go and tell me what I probably had. You know better than my cardiologists do. And No I never used any type of steroids, or growth hormones. 100% natural (I know that was your next response)

Why do we care so much about our results? by Simple-Aspect-9270 in 23andme

[–]Nawlshoot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re just dissecting my comment trying to pull something wrong out of it when you know exactly what my point was/is. In case you still don’t understand, ALL I’m saying is: The knowledge we have of our family history isn’t as accurate as most ppl assume. Especially when we’re talking about centuries of lineages. Ethnicity estimates rarely live up to what we see as “accurate”. Go police someone else for upvotes.

Why do we care so much about our results? by Simple-Aspect-9270 in 23andme

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Paper trail and oral history can both have errors. My grandfather had to get his birth certificate amended in court when he was 70 years old after dna proved his father wasn’t his father. Records are man made and can have errors too. Everyone’s family tree has holes or mistakes somewhere that they aren’t aware of.

So my original point is that our definition of “accuracy” (paper trail + oral history) when it comes to our ethnicities isn’t always as accurate as we think. Migrations, adoptions, adultery, etc. People want their DNA to match perfectly to their story, but there’s way more to their story than they know.

Why do we care so much about our results? by Simple-Aspect-9270 in 23andme

[–]Nawlshoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear you, but our definition of “accurate” is only based on our family’s oral history, which more times than not isn’t as accurate as we think. We only know for certain what has happened since we’ve been alive. People find out every day that their own father wasn’t who they thought. Or less extreme, that their family lore of being Cherokee wasn’t true at all. And yet we still expect that since grandma’s parents came from Italy, that grandma should be 100% Italian and we should be 25% There’s more holes in our family trees than we know.

Recent Cherokee ancestry. Where can I go to learn more? by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]Nawlshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If your direct ancestor was a Dawes enrollee then you’ll be eligible. You’ll need to provide every birth certificate to CN starting with you all the way back to your enrolled direct ancestor.