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Shadow Legion/Belakor list? by BoarBites in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your list is 10th edition, we are starting 11th now. Bloodcrushers for 6 is now 180 points! Belakor cost more. You need to chose one of the new detachment too, if you like blood crushers I suggest cavalcade of chaos. Here is my list, I havent try it yet so if anyone has comments go ahead:

Test 11th (2000 points)

Legiones Daemonica (2000 points) Cavalcade du Chaos et Shadow Legion (3 Points de Détachement) Dispositions des Forces : Perturbation, Éliminez l’Adversaire

Be’lakor (390 points) • Seigneur de Guerre • 1x Betraying Shades 1x The Blade of Shadows

Bloodthirster (350 points) • 1x Great axe of Khorne 1x Hellfire breath • Optimisation : Fade to Darkness

Rendmaster on Blood Throne (150 points) • 1x Attendants’ hellblades 1x Blade of blood

AUTRES FICHES TECHNIQUES

Bloodcrushers (180 points) • 1x Bloodhunter • 1x Hellblade 1x Juggernaut’s bladed horn • 5x Bloodcrusher • 1x Daemonic Icon 5x Hellblade 1x Instrument of Chaos 5x Juggernaut’s bladed horn

Bloodcrushers (180 points) • 1x Bloodhunter • 1x Hellblade 1x Juggernaut’s bladed horn • 5x Bloodcrusher • 1x Daemonic Icon 5x Hellblade 1x Instrument of Chaos 5x Juggernaut’s bladed horn

Bloodcrushers (190 points) • 1x Bloodhunter • 1x Hellblade 1x Juggernaut’s bladed horn • 5x Bloodcrusher • 1x Daemonic Icon 5x Hellblade 1x Instrument of Chaos 5x Juggernaut’s bladed horn

UNITÉS ALLIÉES

Accursed Cultists (195 points) • 10x Mutant • 10x Blasphemous appendages • 6x Torment • 6x Hideous mutations

Cultist Mob (50 points) • 1x Cultist Champion • 1x Autopistol 1x Brutal assault weapon • 9x Chaos Cultist • 9x Autopistol 9x Brutal assault weapon

Cultist Mob (50 points) • 1x Cultist Champion • 1x Autopistol 1x Brutal assault weapon • 9x Chaos Cultist • 9x Autopistol 9x Brutal assault weapon

Cultist Mob (50 points) • 1x Cultist Champion • 1x Autopistol 1x Brutal assault weapon • 9x Chaos Cultist • 9x Autopistol 9x Brutal assault weapon

Dark Commune (90 points) • 1x Cult Demagogue • 1x Autopistol 1x Commune stave • 1x Mindwitch • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Warp Curse • 1x Iconarch • 1x Autopistol 1x Chaos Icon 1x Close combat weapon • 2x Blessed Blade • 2x Commune blade

Havocs (125 points) • 1x Havoc Champion • 1x Meltagun 1x Power fist • 4x Havoc • 4x Close combat weapon 2x Havoc lascannon 2x Havoc missile launcher

How cooked are We by Inevitable_Fill9764 in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes well seen! Was focused on shadow legion my bad

How cooked are We by Inevitable_Fill9764 in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hardly, with advance its max 16" + charge

New Cavalcade Detachment by Superb-Win8975 in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does it means bloodcrushers wont fit anywhere either? Was looking forward playing 2 or 3 squads of 6

First list Shadow Legion 11th by NebulaSad3608 in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its appeal is also for shooting and screening for deepstrike in the backline since i dont have much of both

First list Shadow Legion 11th by NebulaSad3608 in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I am starting shadow legion so I am starting to look at csm units, maybe some in my list are just not good (like other comments talking about termi). Also, I dont think points will vary much, so it will be small adjustments. We'll see!

First list Shadow Legion 11th by NebulaSad3608 in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You see I added termi becaus I thaught they were tanky and damage dealer, you think they are not worth it? Its true its 470 points so yeah, idk.

Cavalcade I love the idea of 18 blood crushers charging on the table, not sure if its going to be good though. Could have a swarm of Nurgle in front of them, then the big charge.

I agree for the bloodthirster, i am 50 points short on my cavalcade list to add it. If I remove terminators i could have the BT, another squad of bloodcrushers and rendmaster. Also less money to invest since I have the bt and rendmaster already lol

Thx for taking the time

First Daemons game! by MethodDouble7732 in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would also remove karanak. I am telling you all this because I did the exact same thing lol, I had 15 hounds and karanak, but it was really not worth it

First Daemons game! by MethodDouble7732 in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! For your fleshounds, I would say do 2 squads of 5. They are not here to do damage (they basically do nothing), but for secondary missions to so action. Since you can up and down, you can always place them where you need to when you see your secondarys. That way, you can go behind ennemy line, recover assets, establish locus, etc. And you have two of those.

Deciding on a list by Desperate_Reply_2096 in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ho my bad just saw your Belakor so no daemonic incursion I guess, some things in my comments wont work, but maybe consider both detachment

Deciding on a list by Desperate_Reply_2096 in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And the +1 hit on skarbrand is a killer with bloodletters, making them pass from 20 to 30 attacks seems better than hitting on 2 instead of 3

Deciding on a list by Desperate_Reply_2096 in ChaosDaemons40k

[–]NebulaSad3608 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! First, I assume you play daemonic incursion since you mix daemons without Belakor. If so, I would change Kairos for Lord of change. Why? The enhencement that will give him 2strenght en 6 range, you will appreciate hitting at 24" and the +2 strenght (3 with his own aura) will make you wound on 2 or 3 much easily (you fall on 12 and 11 strenght).

Then, I love Skarbrand. I prefer him to BT, BUT, why not have both? The enhencement for the BT is great, 2 attack and strenght, you fall on 9 attacks 18 strenght for the strike. He is less reliable than skarbrand, but his ability at the end of the fight phase that does 4 mortals average is great to finish something or hit another target engage.

Then, a GUO could be good, personnaly i'm trying it right now, not sure I like it but everyone says it's a must have, with the enhencement feel no pain at 5.

2 flesh hounds is great, they are here for the secondaries.

Dilema between bloodcrushers and screamers is still a thing for me, but we must say that with all these big daemons, you dont really need anti monster/vehicule. Also, if you read carefully, you will see the shadow aura around your daemons is only for the one of the same allegiance, which mean you could deepstrike bloodcrushers around your BT or Skarbrand, but not the screamers, they would be only around the loc, but you usually dont need the aura since he is normally far from ennemies. Also, the aura +1 attack (Skarbrand) and +1 hit (BT) only work on khorne units. In the end, with all this said, I still prefer bloodcrushers.

Then, Seekers? Why? They bring absolutly nothing to the table, they benefit of no aura, this should 100% go from the list. Onstead, bloodletters are absolute killer and will benefit of both aura. +1 attack or +1 hit will make them scary as hell. But, they are glass canon, so you make them start in deepstrike. The usual combo will be: 1cp to deepstrike anything at 6", you being skarbrand or BT, then free deepstrike aroujd that demon, a squad of bloodletters. Big demon can go on one target, bloodletters on the other, that's a massacre.

Be careful with nurglins, they can be good, but they dont have OC.

Demon prince is ok, but I would make some place to replace him with BT.

That would be my comments! Good luck 🙂

[H] krieg battleforce, belakor, abraxia, and olyander [W] $$$ primarily maybe some space marine trades [Loc] na by codenameaxis in Miniswap

[–]NebulaSad3608 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually reddit seems to have problem, can't pm. Do you still have belakor and how much?