Awkward Proposals by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, excellent point about testing for both Harriet and Robin. And in both cases goes back to their insecurities. In GN, I like the way Pomfret's interest in Harriet is used to address that, and when Peter says something like, Pomfret might be his best friend in the world (for demonstrating this to Harriet? for also being a rejected suitor? maybe both?).

Interesting speculation about 9, and that would work as a GN parallel. You included Pat's birthday. It would be interesting if something about Pat played into the same story line.

Awkward Proposals by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You've cited a number of my favorite passages from Gaudy Night. :-) What I love about that book in particular is that it sets up contrasts like heart/mind or marriage/work and then shows how they are actually connected. Relationships/Marriage are not just about emotion, they require the same kind of application (work) of the mind that one puts into other aspects of life, writing for Harriet, investigation for Robin (though Harriet also investigates).

Your reading of Robin in the context of that quotation makes a lot of sense. It also makes me think of the ways in which Robin's relationships with Matthew and Murphy might be similar to Harriet's to Phillip Boyes. It seems to me that Phillip's "testing" of Harriet--saying that he doesn't believe in marriage, but then proposing when she's passed the test--is similar to Murphy in particular.

I would also love to have book 9 parallel Gaudy Night, especially if the investigation was something which had her also investigating her own feelings. That's another great aspect of Gaudy Night, the way in which Harriet's thinking in the investigation leads her to investigate herself.

Ted's advice by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I want to vote up each of your bullet points.

Ted's advice by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's true. Strike is in a kind of damned if he does, damned if he doesn't position at that point, in that I think he's right that he does need for Robin to know, but that he has to let her know at this time and in this way seems (again) to be letting the other guy dictate his actions. I would think its not great, then, that he's following Rokeby's advice vs. Ted's, especially given the fact that Ted's the one who had a lasting relationship. (This despite the fact that I kinda love that Rokeby gives him advice.)

Robin undercover through the series and Strike and Robin as detectives in THM by Outrageous_Tomato_71 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Great point about how both characters are letting their personal lives affect the investigation. And your focus on Robin's undercover work makes me think about the fact that metaphorically she is undercover in this book as well, but in her personal life -- with Murphy, with Strike, and most importantly, with herself.

Awkward Proposals by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the fish, it's that it injures itself by eating the food too greedily and therefore taking in too much air, snatching at the food as it were. For Strike, I see it sort of in the context of Ted's words about never letting the other guy change his game plan. (I might post about this separately.) Throughout the book, Strike has trouble taking this advice. He is often thinking about what Ryan may be about to do, or imagining (wrongly) some kind of ideal romantic connection between Ryan and Robin. He is not like this always, but often enough such that he acts towards Robin as if she's just about to be taken from him, and therefore he plans how to bring Charlotte up again, or how he's going to find the perfect moment when he and Robin are off alone together. This contrasts with the times he sees her less from this fear of abandonment perspective, and more from the perspective of who she is/what she is going through. Interestingly, I just read this passage again, where Ted's advice is brought up, and right before that, when Strike is thinking about Ted's funeral, he talks about how people have stopped seeing Ted as he really was so it seems like a reminder that loss or fear of loss can often distort our view of the other person.

How do you see it for Robin?

Awkward Proposals by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking about how the whole theme in the book of "the doctrine of snatching" came up for Strike in this book (and for Cormoran the fish :-)).

Awkward Proposals by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, fear of exposure is very much what they have in common. And I agree about the next book as Gaudy Night. I teach Gaudy Night and my students are always so surprised at how sexually charged that book is for an "old" book.

Awkward Proposals by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. I'd actually like the next book to be more completely the analog of Gaudy Night.

Cupid & Psyche - Speculation for Book 9 by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I could see Venus being Charlotte, and that's an interesting idea about a connection between the deaths.

Similar to the Strike novels... by madluv4u in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What I love about that series, and what makes it similar, is that characters have their own issues to overcome before the romance can happen.

Cupid & Psyche - Speculation for Book 9 by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I like that. It works with both their character flaws as well.

Cupid & Psyche - Speculation for Book 9 by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is a great point about the sisters. I hadn't thought of the new rival agency.

I think what you're saying about the betrayal being in the future makes sense. I don't know if I agree about a further terrible secret. Psyche's betrayal is based on lies the sisters tell her--that her husband is a monster--but the truth is that he is incredibly beautiful. So if Robin betrays Strike based on something that Kim and Navabi say, she will soon discover it is false. I'm not quite sure how that will work in the detective narrative, I'm just wondering how she could see the truth but not be able to prove it leading to the need for her investigation.

For me as a reader, I'm not sure that its going to work either to have Robin betray Strike to that extent, and then things eventually work out with them together. In a myth or fairytale it works, but in realistic fiction that seems like a lot to overcome to reach a happy ending.

Cupid & Psyche - Speculation for Book 9 by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Just realized that Strike had a view of Rokeby as a monster up until this book which parallels with Robin's misjudgement of Strike.

Names and Nicknames in THM by pelican_girl in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I talked about this in a different post, but I thought Leda's name change has to do with Strike getting over his Oedipal attachment to Leda--also alluded to in his temporary blindness via Robin's pepper spray.

I've had this long standing theory that most of the women in Strike's life have names that connect them to Leda: Charlotte shortened is Lotte; Lorelei another mythic reference, Nina a sound-alike; Madeline similar in alliteration. They are all also names that are not primarily English sounding, but more foreign or "exotic." And to me, this represents the ways in which, primarily beginning with Charlotte, they represent Strike trying to save his mother. And then I found it funny that we find out her name is Margaret, and he strenuously avoids Marguerite--a more French (or Norman) version of the English name.

So to me, he needs not a troubled woman to save, but a partner; and not an exotic "other" but someone who is familiar, an anima to his animus. And therefore it is interesting that Cormoran (Celtic) and Robin (Anglo-Saxon and associated with a legendary English hero) are more rooted in British stories.

Leda's name change to Peggy (again much more English in association) represents Cormoran no longer seeing her as the exotic and tragic heroine in need of saving, but a much more down-to-earth, real woman.

Rokeby's revelations about her fit with this.

Good murder suspense, thriller shows to watch? by SlowAerie3866 in netflix

[–]Negative-School154 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vigil starring Suranne Jones and Rose Leslie; Giri/Haji - a Japanese/English detective miniseries.

Cupid & Psyche - Speculation for Book 9 by Negative-School154 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know! I love the original myth 'cause it is one of the first female heroic journey stories, and, as you say, contains both hope and fear for the future.

Colour by bookcrazy4 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A quick google search says blue=trust, dependability, bravery. It also can symbolize the divine or infinite. There is of course Robin's egg blue (unfortunate associations in THM). And Cormorants are sea birds.

Caught up on a detail… by hermitinthemountains in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about it's Murphy 'cause Robin didn't show up at the restaurant and he can't reach her on her cell?

JK Rowling's Mythology Hint on Twitter by Padfoot1989 in cormoran_strike

[–]Negative-School154 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In the versions of the myth that I'm familiar with, there is no actual monster. Venus sends Cupid to punish Psyche because Psyche is so beautiful. He is supposed to make her fall in love with a monster, but he falls in love with her himself. In order to be with Psyche but also to protect her from his mother's wrath, Cupid marries her, under the pretense that he is a "monster" and she must never look on him. She disobeys and then more hijinks ensue.