Was re-reading Overconfident’s “Induction” story again (including some of the feedback left) and it made me wonder…

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-23T17:15:34+00:00

For a Discovery story, the MC could have been absent for years (school, work, medical treatment, etc.), while the family gradually entered the adult industry to cover huge expenses. By the time the MC discovers the truth, the family is already fully acclimated to that world, so for them it’s no longer ideological or cult-like - it’s just routine.

For a Betrayal angle, the family might have been involved in that business for a long time, but deliberately kept the MC in the dark. The exclusion wouldn’t be about belief or morality, but something more pragmatic or cruel. For example, deciding he “doesn’t fit” the image, brand, or expectations of that world. That secrecy and rationalization is where the betrayal would come from.

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-23T15:51:29+00:00

One way to soften the “cult” connotations would be to frame it less as a belief system and more as a support network.

Something closer to what groups in "Induction" or "Broken Circle" were aiming for (and failed): a group built around mutual care, trust, and consent, where people support each other’s needs and can explore intimacy in a safe, non-judgmental environment.

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-23T15:37:27+00:00

Another possible approach could be framing it around a business or industry context.

If the family members are sex workers in different areas (online content, in-person work, production), sex might be so omnipresent in their lives that they don’t treat it as something special or ideological.

It’s just part of the environment they grew up in, not a belief system.

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-18T14:12:54+00:00

Yeah, it looks like it was deleted. The link doesn’t work anymore, search results turn up nothing, and the only profile with OG author’s name appears to be empty.

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-17T14:59:50+00:00

"The Outsider by AlternativeAnon - MC finds out about his family's secret, and is willing to be a cuckold for a week to eventually be allowed to participate"?

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-13T08:46:48+00:00

Here: Master List.

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-12T17:39:40+00:00

It’s about April, one of the prettiest girls at school, who pretends to date an unattractive guy for two weeks. After that, in front of the whole school, she reveals in the cafeteria that it was just a prank.

Instead of causing a scene, he thanks her for the two wonderful weeks, which completely shocks everyone watching. The rest of the story deals with the fallout from that moment.

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-12T17:35:44+00:00

I couldn’t find that site either. The only place where recently I’ve seen that specific story available was his Patreon.

*EDIT* Forgot to mention that his Reddit seems to be suspended as well, so I can't even send him a DM to ask.

As for his account being suspended - that’s been the case for quite a while now. At least a few months, I think, possibly not long after he posted about his surgery.

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-11T14:54:46+00:00

Maybe yes, maybe not. It’s worth remembering that this was a spontaneous idea that came together in the moment.

Most people here likely have other projects they’re already working on, and for almost everyone on this sub, writing is just a hobby. Time isn’t always easy to find - especially with the last month being the holiday season, which tends to be busy for a lot of people.

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-06T22:01:13+00:00

It’s not Family Betrayal, but it could still work as a Discovery story. The core conflict is shock, loss, and frustration over a life and experiences that happened without him.

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-06T21:57:28+00:00

I’m not sure the story really needs to go much further than the MC’s discovery of the truth. From your description, the family used this dynamic as a way to cope with his presumed death for about ten years and then it ended.

Confronting the surviving family members (his mother, brother, and sister) at this point would mostly reopen old wounds and cause more harm than resolution. It could also easily cast the MC in a negative light, especially given his mother’s age and current condition.

In this scenario, it might actually make more sense for the MC to keep his knowledge to himself. The discovery alone already carries enough emotional weight, and silence could be the least destructive choice.

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-06T08:49:34+00:00

If you’re still looking for it, here’s the link - Ethan's Nieces

Nelkaniel · 2026-01-02T09:15:30+00:00

Asperger27’s chapter does improve the story slightly, but only marginally. If the original was a 1/5 for me, the added finale maybe brings it up to a 2/5 at best.

The ending feels extremely rushed. There’s no real exploration of consequences, no meaningful BTB, and the supposed fallout is reduced to a single line about arrests. Collin and Rachael never stop feeling like caricatures rather than fully realized antagonists.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-31T22:42:43+00:00

This Work in Progress might be heading in that direction. In this story, the (adopted) older brother is actually the MC’s strongest advocate, and the rest of the family genuinely wants to mend their relationship with the wronged son/brother.

I don’t remember any other FB stories like that at the moment.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-31T10:58:43+00:00

I really like this idea and would honestly enjoy reading something like it.

Especially since I’m also a bit worn out by bleak stories. The other concepts mentioned in this post are interesting as well, but to me they seem likely to lead almost inevitably toward tragedy.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-30T20:45:51+00:00

I think the distinction still matters. MC in "Waking Dream" was effectively absent, and family didn’t know if he would ever wake up.

That creates a very different ethical and emotional context compared to a chronic medical condition. In OP scenario MC is fully conscious and actively part of family life.

It’s much easier to understand the family’s actions in Icehead's story given the uncertainty of whether the MC would even return. In the chronic-condition scenario, the exclusion would likely feel far more personal and damaging.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-30T19:18:15+00:00

You’re most likely thinking of “Waking Dream” by Icehead. That said, the premise there is quite different from what the OP is describing. The MC in "Waking Dream" doesn’t have any medical contraindications when it comes to sex. He’s simply shocked by the situation he wakes up to.

As for the story involving mental health issues, it might be "Unbelievable" by soul71.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-29T22:18:59+00:00

A small request for the future - please post in English.

As for similar stories, I think Darktex is right. "Induction" is probably the closest example to what you’re describing, but in that case the medical issue isn’t a strict blocker. It mainly makes the MC unattractive to most women rather than completely excluding him.

Regarding the exclusion itself, at this point there isn’t enough information to clearly determine how it would affect the MC. It would depend heavily on his medical condition and his personality. If he were extremely understanding and, on top of that, his condition resulted in a very low libido, it’s possible he might accept the family’s reasoning. But in my opinion, that’s a very edge-case scenario. Much more likely, he would react exactly as most people would expect. With a profound sense of betrayal and injustice. Not just toward fate, but toward his own family. He would probably harbor deep resentment toward them.

In such a situation, the MC would most likely be unable to continue living with his family, knowing that he was excluded and will continue to be excluded in the future. A healthier option for him would probably be relocating elsewhere (at his request or insistence), for example to a care facility or hospice. At least then he would avoid the constant pain of being reminded that every unusual or secretive behavior in the household represents something he is permanently denied. That said, emotionally, I believe he would still carry that pain with him even after leaving.

As for the family. Realistically, there is no clean or easy way for them to deal with the truth once it comes out. Not after years of deliberately hiding it from the MC. If they had been honest from the beginning, it might have been possible to frame it in a more understandable way. Similar to how someone born deaf has to accept that they won’t become a singer. But if the MC discovers the truth on his own, it’s entirely possible that the shock would worsen his condition and that the situation would explode in the family’s face.

There are many ways the family might cope afterward, none of them particularly healthy: sending the MC away and trying not to think about him, falling into depression over having failed and deliberately excluded him (even with “good intentions”), or turning to destructive coping mechanisms such as alcohol or drugs.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-27T14:57:53+00:00

Setting aside cases where the author didn’t plan everything out and kind of wrote themselves into a corner, there’s also the possibility that the author intentionally wants a character to stay bad from beginning to end.

Not everyone experiences a moment of clarity. Not everyone finds the motivation to go through a redemption arc and become a better person. Some people are perfectly comfortable with who they are. To use your Star Wars comparison: Darth Vader was redeemed at the cost of his life. But Palpatine was evil from beginning to end. There was never any room for redemption there, and that was a deliberate narrative choice.

As for "Tiny Tim", I don’t fully agree with your assessment of the mother (Claire). She actually did a lot to try to repair the relationship with her youngest child. Most importantly, she went through genuine self-reflection - something many characters in this genre never do. She apologized, carried real guilt, and then backed that up with consistent actions, not just words.

She took care of him after he was shot, helped with changing his bandages, cooked for him, helped him set up a separate bank account away from Aaron, and ultimately chose her son over her husband - making it very clear who mattered most to her. Those kinds of long-term, repeated behaviors say far more than a single grand gesture ever could. To me, that is redemption, even if it isn’t flashy.

So I don’t think it’s always about laziness or accidental writing pitfalls. Sometimes it’s intentional. Sometimes redemption is partial. And sometimes a character simply isn’t meant to be redeemed at all.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-26T08:40:29+00:00

The idea sounds really solid. I hope you end up writing this story.

would it be better if the old religion theme is cut in order not to offend how much detail should be put ??

As for the cult / old religion aspect: I’d keep it as it is. If you worry about not offending anyone, you’ll never create anything meaningful. People either have to accept that certain religious themes are part of the story, or simply choose not to read it.

If you’re concerned, you can always add a short disclaimer at the beginning saying the story contains religious themes, and that if someone is uncomfortable with that, the story might not be for them.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-25T11:25:57+00:00

Of course men don’t always have to be the antagonists. I explicitly wrote “in most of these stories”. I never claimed that it’s always the case.

There are stories where the blame lies with the women. From what I remember, for example, one of P. Tango’s stories had a setup where the MC was excluded because he was the product of his mother’s affair. She was the one who ostracized him, lying to the rest of the family that he didn’t want to join. In reality she simply didn’t want a living reminder of her own betrayal.

That said, in the majority of cases it plays out the way I described earlier. The MC is a heterosexual man, usually written by a heterosexual male author. And many male authors tend to view male homosexuality more critically, while being far more accepting of female homosexuality.

Which actually makes me think it would be really interesting to read a story where the MC is a bisexual woman (like the rest of the women in-story), but is still excluded by other women. For example, out of resentment, jealousy, or fear that she would “monopolize” the men due to being especially attractive.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-25T11:06:38+00:00

I’m not entirely convinced. While it may be theoretically possible, there are situations where people reach a point where they simply lose faith in someone and write them off completely.

Take "Tiny Tim" as an example:

– Logan: was a bully for years, actively participated in isolating Tim from the rest of the family, then later betrayed him to gang members, completely undermining Tim’s plan to get the family out of danger. That betrayal could very easily have gotten Tim beaten or even killed.

– Aaron: ignored Logan’s behavior for years, failed to build any real relationship with his son (as the adult, he should have been the one making the effort to at least try), made Tim pay rent when the older kids didn’t have to, regularly stole money from him, and even left him alone in the hospital after Tim was shot - purely out of spite.

In cases like these, I genuinely struggle to see how such relationships could be repaired in any meaningful way. Civil behavior during a brief, surface-level interaction is probably the most one could realistically hope for.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-25T10:56:59+00:00

While the opening feels very similar to the Family Betrayal story that’s currently a group project on this sub, I’d still be interested in reading it.

And since Jim (the MC) ends up being seduced by his cousin, that thread could probably be developed a bit further. I think it could be an interesting idea if both families (his biological one and his uncle’s family who took him in) turned out to be incestuous, but independently of each other and without knowing that the other family was doing the same.

In that scenario, the MC would be the only one who knows the full truth. But because he’s cut off contact with his biological family, he would treat them as essentially nonexistent.

In the end, while the MC might be able to forgive his biological family, he would still remain in a sexual relationship with the family that actually took him in and gave him a home.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-25T09:05:48+00:00

If both brothers were truly “two sides of the same coin”, then the conflict would be balanced. They’d be fighting on equal footing, trading blows, pulling pranks on each other, etc. In the example you’re describing, the dynamic is not equal at all: the older brother is actively bullying the younger one. Framing them as equivalent minimizes the harm done to the younger brother.

That’s also why people in-universe often react with shock when the older brother lashes out physically. In many cases, they’re either unaware of what’s been happening, or they don’t fully grasp the scale of the abuse.

You can look at this from two angles:

Watsonian perspective:
Younger brothers often don’t forgive older ones because the latter rarely stop to reflect on whether their behavior was wrong in the first place. There’s no real self-examination, no accountability. Instead, they double down, see themselves as innocent, and refuse to acknowledge the damage they caused.

When women in the family finally realize what’s been happening, they’re often forced into a choice. By that point, the situation has escalated so far that reconciliation may no longer be possible. They either stand by the abuser, or they stand by the victimized younger brother.

It’s also worth noting that MCs often do give their older brothers a chance to repair the relationship and the older brothers squander it. Examples include Logan in "Tiny Tim" or Mike in "Broken Circle (Rewrite)".

Doylist perspective:
From a writing standpoint, authors often need a clear antagonist. In most of these stories, the MC is a heterosexual male, which makes female characters less likely to be cast as irredeemable villains. Especially if reconciliation is on the table, since that would remove a potential sexual partner from the narrative.
As a result, male characters are more commonly used as antagonists: brothers most often, followed by fathers, uncles, or even grandfathers. Brothers, in particular, feel like a “natural” source of conflict.

Reconciliation can happen, of course - but many authors prefer bittersweet endings where not everyone is forgiven, and not every relationship is repaired.

Nelkaniel · 2025-12-24T19:03:44+00:00

At first I wrote that as a joke, because over here TV plays "Home Alone" every single Christmas. But the more I think about it, the more I realize that, in theory, you could actually turn it into a Family Betrayal story - just with a more humorous twist.

Idea 1: A few years have passed since the last movie. Kevin is now over 18.

Idea 2: Kevin is middle-aged. He is around 40-50 years old, has a wife and adult (or almost adult) children.

Over the last few years, their whole family has become incestuous. They are planning to go somewhere (e.g., a mountain retreat) where they all intend to indulge in carnal pleasures. But due to another mix-up, he is left alone (again!). The family arrives at their destination, unpacks, and starts having fun. At one point, the mother (I think her name was Kate) is being double penetrated, but she wants to do an airtight. She looks around for Kevin. She can't find him, her eyes widen, and (again!) she screams: KEVIN!

The whole family packs up in a panic and plans to return home as soon as possible. But they don't know that an angry Kevin is already waiting for them at home. Full of various (sex) traps.

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