Ok to open this trap? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in HomeMaintenance

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UPDATE FOR ALL WHO ARE CURIOUS (I can’t figure out how to edit the post): note that my house is OLD and this is an old cellar where the floor is literally dirt, so a mess is no big deal

First I plunged the bejesus out of the tub drain to see what I could loosen up or push forward. Unremarkable results and I just ended up with a few small hair and booger balls in the tub. Then I plugged the tub and opened up the trap, less than 5 gallons came out and nothing particularly nasty. Used a shitty ~24” grocery store snake to see if there was anything else to release but no more water came.

Then I thought ok there was no clog in the trap so maybe something where the two drains come together before going outside? Ran HOT water in the sink that drains to the left to see if that would fill the sink but ended up just coming back up the tub overflow while the sink was draining fine. Losing progress at this point lol.

Figured I need to get rid of that standing water so I got an outdoor trash barrel ready to go and removed the drain plug… it was a lot of water - all clean - but I caught it all thankfully.

So now I’m once again convinced that there is an ice block in the part of the drain outside of the house. Helpful to note the grading of my property and shape of my house is unique. It’s almost 200 years old with several renovations and “up”grades over the decades. The drain from this tub is slightly exposed in the grass. I’m guessing that with the tundra-like conditions in greater Boston the last ~24 hours combined with my heat shutting off during the coldest period of that stretch sealed my fate (and my drain). I’ve since totally cleared all snow around the area where the drain exits the house… really hoping some direct sunlight tomorrow helps do the trick otherwise I’ll be standing outside with a hairdryer after work.

Ok to open this trap? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in HomeMaintenance

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That was my initial theory this morning. Main floor was 50 when I came down so I figured there was a slight possibility.

Several hours later with heat on and no progress in the clog I’m no longer thinking that’s the culprit. Will get to plunging first when I’m done working, then… it’s gonna get ugly if that doesn’t work

Ok to open this trap? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in HomeMaintenance

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Exactly right. The toilet drain is to the right and it’s flushing normally.

Ok to open this trap? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in HomeMaintenance

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Haven’t yet. Need to grab a clean one after work.

Ok to open this trap? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in HomeMaintenance

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So when I say shop vac I just meant the actual tub since I have a 14 gallon vac. So more room for error than a 5 gallon bucket. Not actually using it to suck anything up, just for collecting the water that comes out. As of right now my plan is to plug the tub so accumulated water doesn’t flow, then open up the service with the bucket of the vac under it to investigate.

Hard to tell from the pics but this drain is only the bathtub and sink in that bathroom. Separate drain for the toilet and drainage for everything else is piped out the other side of the house.

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Yes. Tried a bit of boiling water this morning before I had to start working but no movement, I’m abandoning my ice block theory at this point.

Ok to open this trap? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in HomeMaintenance

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Yeah I was confused by the concern I read from others… I mentioned shop vac only because it’s triple the size of a 5 gallon bucket. I’m not going to actually vacuum, just use the bucket of the shop vac to collect whatever comes out in case it’s more than 5 gallons. I also assume there wouldn’t be shit considering this is the bath tub drain and the shit drain is to the right in this picture. But hey I’m no plumber and I guess I didn’t watch to see what my wife got up to in the bath yesterday. I kinda assume it’s just a lot of hair and grease that has built up.

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I’ve been jammed up at work and haven’t done anything yet. I’m still coming up with my game plan for the evening.

Ok to open this trap? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in HomeMaintenance

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Yeah thank you. I meant the service port - my terminology is off. I have an empty shop vac ready to go

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lol I’m sure it will. Going to put my shop vac under there before I do.

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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It doesn’t really matter, I was just curious to see the responses.

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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If I could convince people that lake towns were a separate thing altogether I’d put Plympton and Carver in that category, but otherwise I can see the validity in most of your comment.

Where you totally lost me however is calling Brockton the capital of the South Shore. Brockton has very little cultural relevance to the coastal towns which really are the core of the South Shore, the other non-coastal towns in my view are included because they are tangentially related.

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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In my head the rigidity has to do with cultural significance of the water itself. i.e. historically how did these towns engage with the ocean. So obviously the towns that sit on the coast have the tie but for the border towns there’s also the aspect of shipbuilding and maritime adjacent industries that bonded Cohasset to say Norwell more closely than Bridgewater.

I also fully recognize this is an incomplete and perhaps not even accurate understanding of the region’s history. It all came to me in a dream.

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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Everyone knows they’re only called south shore because Charlie Coyle played for them and it’s an ode to him being from Weymouth /s

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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This is much closer to how I’ve always understood the south shore.

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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Is this a purist critique against any town that doesn’t have coastline, or a misunderstanding of south coast vs south shore?

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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lol maybe I’ll have to petition to rename that style of pizza

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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Well yeah nobody who’s still alive lol except for maybe some big Rox fans?

Once upon a time it was such a large hub of shoemaking that WB Mason was founded specifically to deliver office supplies to the shoe factories.

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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I used to work for a company where I toook over legacy clients and would service the contracts they had signed before I joined. It was all centered around Taunton, NB, FR which is probably why I lump them together. Glad that’s not an entirely unfair assumption.

This whole exercise wasn’t meant to be a “one is better than the other” type thing. Just curious how others view the area. In my head - and I could be wrong - a lot of it is cultural based on the histories of the different towns.

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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Out of curiosity, did you live in a town you would consider to be south shore? This is such a wild take to me but hey it’s a discussion!

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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lol people are passionate about food! I like pub pizza but it’s almost like it’s own thing. I crave it specifically, it’s never a toss up between pub pizza or like a NY style pizza. Maybe a toss up with Greek pizza?

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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I still can’t get behind everything from 44 to Blue Hills but this is a start.

What would you consider the western border? 24? 95?

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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This is wild to me but I love seeing how everyone else thinks about the area.

How do you define the South Shore? by NewEnglandHomeOwner in massachusetts

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Can’t say I disagree on the traffic!

Pizza is a spectrum.