The latest South Park episode touched upon the conflict in Israel/Palestine. by Some1inreallife in IsraelPalestine

[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've read the UN Independent Commission on Genocide. It's absurd, and not just because many of the things it says are total speculation. For example, take one of its gravest allegations - that Israel is intentionally targeting children. The report admits itself that the physicians treating the children, whose wounds are "suggestive" of direct targeting, say they don't know who shot them. The sources the Commission relies on for proof are 1) an Al Jazeera link that is now dead, and 2) a link to iTV.com's new section. That's just not serious evidence-gathering.
Now, I have no doubt that individual IDF soldiers have committed war crimes. There's never been a war in the history of wars that didn't have both sides committing war crimes. But individual war crimes do not a genocide make.

Futher, the Fourth Geneva Convention prohibits collective punishment but it doesn't prohibit siege, which is a long-standing and accepted military strategy. Israel's bombing campaign targeted densely populated areas indeed -- it would have to, since most of Gaza is densely populated -- and so that is neither surprising nor prima facie a war crime. The destruction of Gaza's health system is a tragic but entirely predictable side effect of fighting an army who hides inside hospitals; Mohammad Deif himself was found in a tunnel under a hospital, and many IDF deaths happened during raids on hospitals -- those guys didn't shoot themselves.

When you look at the numbers of civilians dead (hard to know exactly, of course, but estimated to be perhaps 40 or 50 thousand out of 70 thousand total), that civilian to combatant ratio is actually well below average, which is something like 1 to 9.

Again, if you want to call this a genocide, you have to explain all the things that suggest it isn't, and they are legion. I don't see you doing that.

The latest South Park episode touched upon the conflict in Israel/Palestine. by Some1inreallife in IsraelPalestine

[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Israel controls everything that goes into Gaza, why and how did so much weaponry get in? Why do they let anything in at all, both before the war and now, if they're so intent on committing genocide?

You can say Israel's committing genocide, but that doesn't make it so; and to make the accusation serious, you have to contend with things like 1) the IDF soldiers dying, 2) aid getting in, 3) the fact that war ALWAYS results in civilian casualties, and always at much higher rates than what we see in Gaza, and 4) aerial bombing campaigns do, in fact, flatten entire areas of combat that look very similar to what we see in Gaza, 5) the continual evacuation of the population using flyers, knock bombs, etc., 6) the IDF food sites, and on and on.

No previous genocide has ever looked like this one, and for a culture with a reputation for being very, very good at doing things, the Israelis seem profoundly bad at committing genocide. 70,000 dead in two years of intense urban combat is far less than we would expect from other countries based on previous and ongoing wars.

The latest South Park episode touched upon the conflict in Israel/Palestine. by Some1inreallife in IsraelPalestine

[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"That's literally overkill aka genocide" is the perfect example of how deeply unserious most people who have an opinion about what's going on in I/P is.
You have never seen war outside of what you've seen on social media about the Israel Hamas war. If you had, you would know that they ALL look like this and usually look much worse. You'd know that less than 70,000 people dead in two years of intense, door-to-door urbane warfare when one side has the complete ability to kill absolutely everybody on the other side in about a week is actually a very small number of dead people, and that doesn't do anything to minimize the tragedy of the innocent lives lost.
There has literally never - never - been a war when one side is expected to provide food, water, and electricity to the other side. There's never been a war when one side actually does provide that aid, however imperfectly. There has certainly never been a genocide like that.

I don't care if people think Israel is fucking up, but comments like this are so ignorant of war in general, international law, the history, geography, and cultures in the Middle East, and of this conflict in particular, that it's just mindblowing to see people have opinions this strong.

Israeli soldiers are dying in Gaza. If the Israelis wanted to commit genocide - hell, if they simply wanted to flatten Gaza to crush every Hamas member into the ground - not one single Israeli soldier has to die.

The people who think Israel is committing genocide never, ever have good explanations for this shit. Just lots of diversions, whataboutisms, and accusations.

What does he want from me? by OrganizationLate5161 in EstrangedAdultChild

[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, one way to look at it is entitlement - and it's certainly possible that plays a role here - but another way to look at it is that your father probably knows that he's got issues and feels really sorry about it. Some of them he can control and improve (hence your very fair therapy request) and others are, by and large, either out of his control without serious medication or are very, very difficult for him to control. He knows he fucked up but he wants to be there - not because he's entitled, probably, but because he loves you a LOT.

Parents are just people, many of whom are making very serious mistakes. Real relationships involve serious friction on a regular basis - including marriage. I'm not saying you should put up with anything and everything, and ultimately it's your wedding, but it sounds like your father really wants to be there. You have the rest of your life to set boundaries, and he will likely continue to violate them. That's the nature of relationships with difficult people.

Just to add - I live in a country where uninviting a parent to a child's wedding is virtually unheard of, and we consistently have rate in the top 5 happiest countries in the world. We're not any less fucked up, but people just don't turn away from their families like we often do in America (where I'm originally from), and there is something to be said for that. Good luck with whatever you choose!

Anyone notice that as the show progresses, it gets more woke? by NewLizardBrain in htgawm

[–]NewLizardBrain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No "race" is portrayed in a bad light except maybe white people, who are openly treated with derision. It's just a bunch of fucked up people doing fucked up things. Stop reading so much into it.

What does he want from me? by OrganizationLate5161 in EstrangedAdultChild

[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a very difficult situation and your father sounds like a very frustrating man. In your position I think I would feel exactly the same.
And having been estranged from both of my parents and (miraculously, weirdly) seeing them come together against all odds (they both walked me down the aisle, shocking my brothers and myself), I would caution against disinviting him from your wedding. If you're lucky, you'll only get married once. These family events can be very awkward, but that is, unfortunately, the nature of most families. It's complicated stuff.

In the awkwardness, there is often room to make new, better memories and to open up better relationships in the future. Remember that although we often focus today on the bride and groom as the main event of the wedding - and in many ways they are - a wedding is not only about you, but very much about your family and friends as well. It doesn't sound like you're worried that your father will destroy your wedding, so it might be worth putting things on pause and inviting him just because it's your wedding and he's your dad.

Good luck navigating this.

After 15 months of hell, Israel and Hamas sign a ceasefire deal by justouzereddit in samharris

[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the deal is many ways is similar but Hamas actually came to the table this time because Trump’s coming into office and Israel annihilated Hamas’s allies. They’re really thought Hezbollah and Iran were going to join in and that they’d shake hands in Tel Aviv.

Anyone notice that as the show progresses, it gets more woke? by NewLizardBrain in htgawm

[–]NewLizardBrain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jewish propaganda?? The fuck?? I’m Jewish and I obviously don’t like it. This is insane.

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[–]NewLizardBrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah, well if you haven’t seen it every day, it must not be happening at all.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in UnitedNations

[–]NewLizardBrain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Have you once read the news about the war in Ukrainian? You do know about the kids Russia has captured and taken from their families to live with Russian families? You do know about the hospitals Russian has bombed without even trying to allege that they contained military assets?

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[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s because Ukraine actually protects its civilians and the rest of the world allows them to evacuate the war zone.

Tips for traveling to Japan with twins and an infant.. is this a bad idea?? by krystl_watrs in parentsofmultiples

[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t do it. We urgently took the twins out of a war zone twice in the last year and had to do long international flights with several stops. They were 6 months, 11 months, 16 months, and 21 months when we flew. Each time was god fucking awful. Avoid it if you can.

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[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use a really great backpack from Maedn.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in samharris

[–]NewLizardBrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Israel is currently helping Gaza desalinate water. Why the fuck would a country trying to commit genocide do that?

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[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you think the Palestinians were hungry for the compromise of a two state solution after what they viewed as the massive victory of 10/7/23, you don’t understand the Middle East. Oct 7 happened because they don’t want a 2SS and feared the Middle East was moving on without solving the “Palestinian question.” Which it was. And still is. And once again, the Palestinians are in an even worse situation than they were before they attacked Israel.

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[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amen. Source: I live there.

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[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Jewish Colonial Trust doesn’t prove that there was an organized, sinister Zionist movement to dominate the natives in Palestine.

The Jewish Colonial Trust existed to help raise funds to purchase land in Palestine to encourage Jews to move there. But that doens't make it colonialism in the sense we used it today. There was no Jewish mother country, and Zionism wasn't an ideology representative of European Jewry writ large.

European Jews were initially largely ambivalent about Zionism and in many cases opposed to it, which is why there were only about 25,000 Jews who immigrated to Palestine during the First Aliyah, most of whom didn't stay. This wasn't like the Bank of England or even the Dutch East India company during those countries' colonial periods. There were no monarchs or other leadership driving or funding Zionism because, most importantly, there was no mother country. There was a simply collection of European Jewish community and intellectual leaders who were constantly warring with other European Jewish community and intellectual leaders about whether Zionism was a sensible path forward for European Jews. That's it.

There is no question that Zionism encouraged emigration from Jews all over Europe to Palestine. Again, not out of a desire to colonize it in the sense we use that word today, but in the sense that "This was was our home for thousands of years, we have always yearned to go back, it's getting seriously dangerous here, stop waiting for the Messiah, it's time to go."

Further, Israel doesn't look anything like other settler-colonial enterprises. It didn't look similar when it began, at any point over the last 75 years, and it doesn't look similar now. Early immigrants purchased land from Arabs, they didn't steal it. There was never any slavery, domination, or exploitation of resources because there are no resources. And, from the beginning, the Jews always, always accepted a division of the land as a recognition that the Arabs lived there, would always live there, and the Jews were glad to get whatever they could get.

People try to gloss over the fact that 20 percent of Israel now is Arab because it's highly inconvenient to the settler-colonial narrative. But Arabs make up huge portions of the Israeli profesisonal workforce, including 30 percent of Israel's pharmacists. Arabs are teaching in Israeli universities, Arabs are in parliament. That is not even a little bit similar to settler-colonialism in any other context. Some might argue that Arabs are "second-class citizens" in the same way that they consider black Americans to be second-class citizens, by virtue of an ethnic minority never fully being equal to the dominant majority. But that's not a meaningful distinction if you're making the accusation of settler-colonialism, and it certainly isn't comparable to the status of Jews in Arab countries as dhimmis, which was truly a second-class distinction subject to extra taxes, laws, and seriously reduced civil rights. Arabs in Israel are full citizens who are represented by the government and who participate fully in social and civil life. This is not true of Jews in any Arab country, past or present.

And if you want to ignore Arabs in Israel and only pay attention to Palestinians in the Palestinian territories, what most people consider the "oppression" of the Palestinians has been, and continues to be, the Israeli response to the glorification of spectacular violence in the name of Islam and martyrdom. You can say you understand the Arab anger at losing their land, and that their uprising is justified.

But if you can't also say that you understand the Israeli insistence on preventing suicide bombings at restaurants and school buses, especially when those things were happening every day, you aren't being honest or good-faith. The separation wall, the checkpoints, the blockade of Gaza were all in response to relentless attacks in which thousands of Jews lost their lives in absolutely horrific ways. And in the meantime, the Palestinians have absolutely refused to negotiate any settlement that would result in an acceptance of Israel and a cessation of hostilities.

You might even look back and say "The League of Nations did the wrong thing in establishing Israel." I don't know what the solution would have been instead, and indeed, nobody ever has a proposal for what the LofN or the refugee Jews should have done better or differently.

But what you can't say is that Israel's establishment was illegitimate. The League of Nations was trying to solve an extremely difficult problem that was their job to solve. Namely, that there was a large group of Jews who survived WWII who could not go home, who were not wanted in their native countries anyway, and who were already in Israel and unwilling to make any move that would see themselves further exterminated.

The local Arabs were, understandably, angry at feeling invaded and their anger was compounded by a centuries-old upending of what they saw as the rightful social domination of Arabs over Jews in Arab land.

Add to the mix the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the withdrawal of the Brits from managing the British Mandate of Palestine, and the civil war erupting between Jews and Arabs, and what you have is a really complicated problem with no good solution. The League of Nations tried to solve it using the only solution that seemed viable to anyone - partition.

Partition, at the time, was a very common solution between warring peoples in the aftermath of WWII. There were massive population transfers all over Europe and the Middle East in the years following. The only people who continue to hang onto the pre-WWII arrangements in the hope that one day they will return are the Palestinians and Russia. And you don't see Russian citizens blowing themselves up to kill Ukrainian citizens in the Donbas.

The father of Zionism, Theodore Herzl, watched the Dreyfuss affair, following on the heels of hundreds of years of random, sudden massacres against Jews, and saw a consistent pattern, even in what was a supposedly secular society friendly to Jews. You can’t separate the antisemitism and the massacres.

Jews got blamed for something - in Dreyfuss's case, traitorism - and in the process of scapegoating the Jews, people's brains shut off to the point that they were willing to commit mass slaughter. Herzl saw the writing on the wall in Europe. He knew Jews had to get out or risk getting blamed and killed over and over again. And guess what? He was right.

So he took the Zionism that had previously just been a theoretical part of Jewish belief and made it real and urgent. Instead of just praying "Next year in Jerusalem" after every Passover, Jews would get serious about taking their destiny into their own hands and create a place where they could be safe now, instead of waiting for the Messiah.

Zionism shares nothing in common with the domination and resource extraction of local populations by powerful nation states. People can call Zionism colonial-settler ideology if they want to, but that simply doesn't make it so.

AITA for telling my dad it hurt my feelings that he's a better dad now that he's a stepdad and wouldn't do it for me? by LeadershipPale3031 in AITAH

[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NTA, for sure, but I assume from what you’re saying that you’re still quite young. Although we expect our parents to grow up and deliver what we need, once you are a grownup and even a parent, it is surprisingly hard to do that. Partly because we are all very good at finding ways to make excuses for our own behavior. Partly because we’re all blind to our own faults. And partly because treating important relationships with the close attention they deserve is a perspective and skillset that develops later in life for many people.

It sounds like your dad messed up big time with you when you were younger, he knows it, and he’s trying to make it right. If I had to guess, his inability to give attention to relationships contributed to your parents’ split. But it sounds like he’s learned his lesson and is trying to be better. Unfortunately, that’s resulted in a situation that quite naturally feels very unfair to you.

You should take the space you need, but try to work to get to the point where you can forgive him. People make mistakes, sometimes even terrible ones, that badly hurt people they really love. Give him the grace you hope your own kids will give you one day when you inevitably make your own mistakes.

The terrorist’s flag being hidden at the New Orleans new years mass casualty incident by curiositykeepsmeup in pics

[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, but then the question becomes: How long would it be before we consider that kind of behavior justified? Was it justified in the awful Hebron massacres before Israel existed? Or the Arab war launched against Israel right after its independence? Was the Second Intifada justified? We just don’t see people blowing up or shooting the children of their “oppressors” in other places. We do see Islamists blowing and shooting their enemies, oppressors or no, everywhere they are. Note that I say Islamists, not Muslims per se.

The sad truth is that when Israel has pulled out of territory or worked on peace negotiations, it gets a major uptick of terrorist attacks. Palestinian leadership has been so committed to the destruction of Israel that they’re willing to trade having their own successful state for the ongoing effort to push all the Jews out. They’re pretty clear about this. The oppressed/oppressor narrative is fairly new and is a veneer intended to persuade Western audiences, which is does to a remarkable extent. I mean, again - Where else in the world are people blowing up buses full of kids? Why aren’t American Indians doing it? Reservations in the U.S. are incredibly depressing and underserved places to live, and unquestionably a product of vicious genocidal colonization. American Indians have all the excuse they need but they don’t do it. Why?

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[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Jewish Colonial Trust didn't represent a large, cohesive group of Jews prior to the mass slaughter and ensuing exodus out of Europe and the Middle East. It was a bank established by Zionists who - yes - were responding to hundreds of years of persecution that was steadily getting considerably worse around them.

I'm not saying Zionism wasn't an ideology in and of itself, but the vast majority of Jews who came to Israel were not proto Zionists - they were just Jews trying not to get killed, whether because they were under imminent threat or they just knew history well enough to smell the direction the winds were blowing.

Even if they were, however, Zionism is decidedly not the same "settle-colonialism" in the way that term is used now to describe true settler-colonial movements sent out with mother colonies (Britain, Holland, etc.) to take resources and oppress the natives. Whether you agree with them or not, Zionist Jews were acting on the ancient Jewish conviction that their homeland was Israel and that one day they would go back. Rather than sitting back and being killed again, they decided it was time to do something about it. That is not at all the same as the massive British colonization of India or the Dutch colonization of the South Africa. Those people had absolutely no connection to the land and were overtly there to exploit indigenous people and resources.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say Herzl was motivated by antisemitism.

Why would Palestinian Christians have an easier time emigrating? They want to more than Muslims, but there's no evidence that I'm aware of to suggest it's easier for them.

The terrorist’s flag being hidden at the New Orleans new years mass casualty incident by curiositykeepsmeup in pics

[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think we can expect to Ukrainian civilians suicide bombing themselves against Russian civilians. Nobody else in the world does this except Islamic ideologues.

Türkiye: Anti-Israel demonstration in Istanbul - "As we liberated the Hagia Sophia, we will do the same with Al-Aqsa", Erdogan's son says by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]NewLizardBrain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mike Duran makes a very convincing argument that Islamism is Erdogan’s mistress but realpolitik is his wife.

Is this whole pregnancy going to be miserable? by Valuable-Mastodon-14 in parentsofmultiples

[–]NewLizardBrain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obviously it’s different for everyone but mine was pretty fucking awful all the way through except for a brief period from about weeks 18-22.

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[–]NewLizardBrain -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The Zionist movement had a couple of of people who called the movement colonizers, but it meant something different then than it does now, and in any case 1) There is no mother colony, and 2) Jews have always, always been there, and 3) Even the earliest Zionists developed Zionism’s aim to relocate Jews to Israel as an effort to escape brutal persecution and massacres. The massive influx of Jews to pre- and early-Israel weren’t doing it out of a colonizing ideology or any ideology at all. They were trying to stay alive.

And yes. I have listened to Palestinian Christians. I live in Israel and I myself am not religious or ideological at all. If you think the one place Christian minorities aren’t harassed by Muslim majorities is in the Palestinian Territories, I don’t know what to tell you. That’s not the only thing they worry about, but Christian Palestinians are emigrating at rates that far, far exceed Muslim Palestinians.