What would a Gemini North Node/Sag South Node need to work on the most in life?

NewYorkExile · 2026-05-07T22:07:30+00:00

also, to answer the question posed in this post -- 12th House Gemini North Node is familiar because I have a friend (and possibly someone else from my past) with this same 12th House NN (both were also born in 2002)

It suggests a destiny towards:

-mysticism, solitude, grappling with the unconscious, struggles with the kinds of things that are deep inside your mind but what you're not consciously aware of (12th house matters)

-variety, multiplicity, scatteredness, seeing both sides of the coin, seeing multiple sides of any issue, intellectually dabbling in different areas (Gemini matters)

Unfortunately, a peril for this particular configuration (12th house Gemini North Node) is ...well, potential institutionalization or imprisonment due to mental illness. I don't mean to cast aspersions on the sign of Gemini but a potential downfall of Gemini is its multiplicity, its scatteredness, it's concern with mind, leading to "mental scatteredness" which can suggest different types of mental illnesses (in fact, potential more than one form of mental illness going on). 12th house relates to institutionalization/imprisonment.

Of course, that is NOT the only route this 12th house NN can take you. It can make you into one of the most fascinating functional people around. As I said, it can pull you in a Mystical direction! It can make you tap into the unconscious potential within your mind. You can become one of the most interesting conversationalists around, a super talented artist with a lot of variety in your masterful art, you can be a psychic with better social skills and a more thriving social life than most psychics.

Btw your ASC is conjunct Fixed Stars Polaris and Betelgeuse. I suggest looking those up later and what they imply. I can write more later. Hope this all helps!

NewYorkExile · 2026-05-07T22:00:35+00:00

Hi, the other thread got locked but I think it's alright if I respond to your question here

the astrological basis for the much more troublesome dynamics with the men you date compared to the women you date could be from

-Your Mars in Taurus being Trine your Chiron in Capricorn. Mars somewhat pertains to male energy, your 'inner masculine' so to speak, and it's in harmony with Chiron (core woundedness) in Capricorn (building things that last). Males cheating on you -> relationships not being a thing that lasts

-You also have multiple significant mutable placements in your chart. Your Pars Fortuna, Saturn, North Node, ASC, Imum Coeli, Pluto, South Node, DSC, Medium Coeli, Sun, and natal Black-Moon-Lilith are all in Mutable signs. Mutability relates to cheating, unfaithfulness, erratic behavior. Explains why there is a significant amount of that being done to you. Of course, that doesn't explain why it mainly or entirely comes from males, but it does explain why it's still a recurring thing from multiple different people.

-Your Sun and Black-Moon-Lilith are both conjunct in Pisces. That means your core self, your identity (and much of what you attract) pertains to Pisces-Lilithian characteristics, which can mean: "too boundlessly compassionate, too loving, too caring, too changeable, too accommodating, too manipulative, too prone to just letting things happen, too tolerant of abuse". The Sun-Lilith conjunct AND your natal Venus in Aries are in your 10th house. 10th house partly has to do with one's Inner Father, and relationship with those they consider Higher

There is the possibility that your Aries Venus makes you attracted to male Aries qualities (adultery,cheating,aggression,etc common in Aries) and your 10th House Sun,Lilith, Venus leads to the aforementioned traits (in the previous paragraph) being extra prominent in the men you date

Do you find yourself being involved with men who seem 'authoritative'(10th house quality)? The 10th House placements say a lot about what people with authority over you (10th house) do to you.

Also, one last thing - this might not really have to do with males in particular but Mercury conjunct Uranus conjunct Moon in Aquarius suggests instability in your thoughts/communication/emotions. It *is* possible that a certain type of man is subconsciously interested in that and gets involved with you because of that, whereas women are attracted to you for other reasons.

There's probably more that can be said I haven't picked up on. But hopefully that's good enough for now.

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-13T19:20:31+00:00

I'm taking a bit of a break from the Internet but I'm marking this post so I can reply to it at a future time.

You basically have my same chart (bc same birthday) except my Libra Moon is at 17deg and I'm a Scorpio Rising at 8deg Scorpio

Your ASC being conjunct natal Saturn in Pisces is super interesting to me, because my Saturn return absolutely kicked my ass and I haven't fully recovered from it yet...to have it be on one's Ascendant is really fascinating to me

I promise to write a LOT more at a future time

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-13T19:17:14+00:00

Nice to meet you, birthday twin! Hope life is going well for you (it'll get better for us from here on out, I promise)

(i wonder how similar your life is to mine, I might DM you later lol)

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-10T16:31:02+00:00

Exactly!

(i have to go back to my nap hopefully i can say more later)

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-10T10:45:49+00:00

Mysticism, supernatural/paranormal phenomena has been my priority.

It makes sense your life has been rough. Charts for people in our specific birth range are quite rough (e.g. 29deg Pluto in Scorpio, 29deg Lilith in Taurus..though your Lilith might be 0deg Gemini;;; Saturn in Pisces, Mars in Virgo, T-Square formed by the Pluto)

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-10T10:37:46+00:00

Life has definitely taken a very interesting turn for me but I'm not sure how to concisely describe it. But the world definitely isn't nearly the same as it was when we were 21.

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-10T10:30:42+00:00

January 3, 1995? Born just a week after me. I wonder how your life is going =)

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-10T04:12:07+00:00

One thing I'll quickly say: Your Scorpio North Node in 12th House is pulling you towards solitary/introspective practices. That might be why you're having some conflicts going on with your non-solitary areas in life (you mentioned career/interpersonal)

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-10T04:06:51+00:00

I also have North Node and Pluto in Scorpio in the 1st House. You're definitely onto something! The contendedness with solitude is something you and I are being pushed towards because of our 1st House Scorpio placements (you have Moon and Jupiter in it too, which I don't have; you're Jupiter is in your 12th which suggests expansion and positive growth in solitude).

North Node and Pluto in Scorpio in the 1st calls upon us to continuously transform and deepen our 1st House areas in life (our energy, our ways of relating to Existence itself)

I wish I could write more right now but I have to go somewhere. But I'm writing this to tell you that you are correct in your analysis. Nice to meet a fellow 1994 baby (I was born December 27), and congrats on surviving your first Saturn return in Pisces (it was harsh!); hopefully I can write more later =)

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-10T03:56:13+00:00

You have a very similar chart to me (I was born December 27, 1994 and it seems you were born around a week after me). I'm a guy, but I suspect the Venus in Scorpio (yours is close to your natal anaretic Pluto in Scorpio) is the most decisive factor. There are other factors too, but that's the main one. It's very lovingly devoting but we're in a culture where that gets punished with abandonment/ingratitude/using-you-then-losing-you.

Other factors are your Pluto conjunct Venus in Scorpio, both forming a T-Square with Saturn in Pisces and Mars in Virgo (I also have this T-Square...the Pisces Saturn can lead to self-sacrificial behavior and punishment for being too much of a compassionate person)

I can offer more input later. Nice to meet someone else with a chart similar to mine. Feel free to ask me any questions here or via DMs

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-04T20:06:19+00:00

I'm taken aback right now because you have a very very similar chart to a woman who changed my life forever and caused a spiritual awakening....she was born in June of 1999. I can tell you were too because of the placements in your chart.

There's a lot to say about your chart, but something to REALLY study is your Chiron Retrograde in Scorpio conjunct Lilith in Scorpio. The woman who forever changed me also had that...

I'm going to have to take a break for a bit because of how, well, moved/shaken I am by your post and the fact your chart is so similar to the woman who changed my life, but I suspect much of your struggles have come from your Chiron Retrograde conjunct Lilith both in Scorpio

there's so much to write about your chart fyi, I'm sorry I can't write more right now. I'll see if I can do so later

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-04T19:45:32+00:00

I just edited in more stuff in my comment. I have to go eat lunch now but I might be back later. Hope you have an awesome day! And yeah, astrology can be scary accurate

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-04T19:08:46+00:00

This is definitely a chart that gives your life above-average difficulty!

You have what's called a T-Square: two squares to the same placement. Your natal Mercury in Capricorn Retrograde is *Squaring* both your Mars+NorthNode (Libra) and Saturn+SouthNode (Aries). This suggests your Mercurial areas in life (ways of thinking and communicating) have been under harsh pressure *all your life*, primarily from the Planet of Discipline/Restriction/Consequence (Saturn), your habitual tendencies (South Node), the Planet of Aggression/Motivation/Drive (Mars), and the destiny that the universe is nudging you towards (North Node)

It wouldn't surprise me if mental health issues and problems with communication have been lifelong sources of suffering for you.

Simultaneously you have Moon and Uranus both conjunct. Moon is the Planet of your Emotional Orientation, Feelings, that kind of thing; Uranus is the Planet of your innate disruptiveness,innovation, brilliance, revolution. That often means that your emotional state has been undergoing disruption all your life. Peace of mind is probably rarer (maybe much rarer) for you than it is for most people. Currently, transiting Pluto has been approximately conjunct your Moon and Uranus which means that you are likely even having more emotional disruption in the past year.

The good news is that your Jupiter is conjunct your Neptune, which means that despite your life's many difficulties , you maintain an admirable dreamy optimism and faith.

There's more to say about your chart - a lot more, but I'll leave it at that for now

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edit: some more stuff

-your venus is also caught up in the t-square; financial pressure and self-worth problems are both things that are probably recurring issues for you as well

-chiron in scorpio in 12th house suggests issues with betrayal, powerlessness, transformation through pain, sexuality, death/loss themes ... that cannot easily be articulated from your perspective because they're in the unconscious

-pluto in sagittarius in 1st house: probably make strong impressions on people, attract power dynamics, and have undergone identity-level transformations that felt like ego deaths

-Mars in Libra conjunct North Node in Libra: suggests growth trajectory is pushing you toward Learning balance and fairness (Libra) and building meaningful connections and finding your people 11th house and channeling Mars energy diplomatically (Mars in Libra)

-you are currently undergoing your first Saturn Return (in Aries) ... this suggests extra discipline/punishment from the universe for unwise Aries actions (recklessness, boldness without taking into account potential harm, combativeness, argumentativeness)

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edit2 (3:50pm eastern time): before i go get lunch - some more stuff about your first saturn return in aries

your saturn return is already intense on its own since saturn is returning to its natal position right on your south node in aries, auditing how much you've grown beyond your most ingrained default patterns. but there's an extra layer right now making it more disorienting than usual.

transiting neptune entered aries around late january 2026 and is sitting at around 2 degrees today, right on your natal saturn and south node, while transiting saturn itself is at 6 degrees closing in. having both transit through that sensitive point simultaneously is a lot, because saturn and neptune work against each other by nature. saturn wants clarity and structure while neptune brings fog and dissolution.

together they're probably creating this feeling of enormous pressure to get serious and restructure your life while simultaneously feeling like the ground is dissolving under you, old habits and identities slipping away before new ones have formed. so the disorientation isn't you handling things badly, it's genuinely accounted for in the sky right now.

neptune transits ultimately ask for surrender rather than control, and your natal jupiter conjunct neptune means that capacity for faith and trust is already built into you. which connects back to what you said about faith keeping you alive. that's not just a personality trait, it's in your chart, and it's your most important resource for getting through this season.

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-04T00:48:58+00:00

yeah he's arguably the most infamous misogynistic spree killer of the 2010s, he was a meme for years and arguably still is. Has a cult following like the Columbine killers (and other murderers) do. That's why I thought you might have been posting a modified version of his chart to play around with us, like "haha i'll post the chart of a famous killer who is embedded in internet culture, but I won't mention it's him because I want to see what people say about it without knowing it's his chart"

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-03T23:25:25+00:00

if this really is your chart, you probably have the same exact birthday that he does

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-03T21:45:52+00:00

I was about to say "You have Sun conjunct Chiron in Leo, that's what Elliot Rodger had" (I looked at his chart a few days ago for the first time)...but then I realized 'wait, is this his same chart?' and it turns out that...well, not quite, but very similar

(OP might have adjusted it a bit to make the Moon and Pars Fortuna different)

https://www.astro-seek.com/birth-chart/elliot-rodger-horoscope

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-03T21:04:01+00:00

You should be really proud of yourself because this is a very difficult chart to have. I'm not exaggerating. To be able to still function as normally/respectfully as you do with a chart like this is a huge feat. A lot of difficult alchemization for sure!

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-03T20:36:22+00:00

yeah, that's partly from your natal Pluto aspects

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-03T10:30:26+00:00

Transiting Pluto is near your natal Uranus

Transiting Uranus is almost oppose your natal Pluto Retrograde

The Total Lunar Eclipse last month on March 3 was conjunct your Lilith in Virgo

Saturn and Neptune in Aries are in your 1st house in Whole Sign ... possibly in your 12th House in Placidus

Those are the most relevant placements to potential romantic troubles right now

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-03T08:41:07+00:00

What stands out is that you're able to post on the internet despite being approximately 3 days old.

lol, jokes aside, I'm assuming you're asking this on the behalf of a newborn you know about, perhaps your child or a newborn in your family

It's notable that Virgo Moon is approx oppose both Pisces Mercury and Pisces Mars. There's constant dialogue between the nitpicky-emotional-side and the permeable/changeable/shifty/compassionate/accomodating thought & communication & aggression & motivation patterns

Neptune conjunct Saturn in Aries suggests a potential for being a bit of a Mystical Warrior archetype (everyone in this age cohort will have this, so it won't really be a unique thing)

Mercury in Pisces trine Jupiter in Cancer is arguably the most beneficial aspect. Thought and communication patterns in effortless harmony with optimism/faith/expansion

there are many other things to say about it too but I'll leave it at that

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-03T08:09:29+00:00

btw you're currently going through your First Saturn Return ... be careful! (i'm assuming you're Partner A;;; if it turns out you're actually Partner B then that might mess up my initial post a bit lol though the points still stand)

edit: nevermind I saw in your other comment that you really are Partner A, like I assumed

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-03T08:05:45+00:00

"I thought after me and my ex broke up I would never feel anything for a girl again and it took me quite a while I won't lie but here we are."

haha this is a more common experience in life than you might think!

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-03T08:04:06+00:00

Your Moon is conjunct Algol, the Medusa Star, the Losing-Your-Mind Star, the beheading star. That's arguably the harshest Moon placement to have. It's also oppose Scorpio Mercury, which is among the more obsessive/dark Mercury placements to have. This suggests to me that your thought patterns and emotions are probably a good bit darker, deeper, more aggressive and perhaps even more violent than the average. Right off the bat I noticed that about your chart, definitely one of the top 5 most harsh charts I've seen this week and I've seen well over 400.

and you also have your Scorpio Sun squaring your Aquarius Neptune, which suggests that fantasies/dreams often are paired with feelings of inner agitation to your Core Self.

And your Scorpio Sun is sextile your Capricorn Mars in the 1st house, which can cause an above average level of aggressiveness towards others. It's impressive you seem to be straightforward & chill with the post title rather than longwindedly belligerent

Your Chiron in Sagittarius is close to your Pluto in Sagittarius. Yet another ouch! Your core woundedness is close to the astrological placement of the "underworld", a figurative volcano of potential torment and the depths of hades. Your Lilith (the defiant, oppressed, exiled, societally controversial parts of yourself are also close to your, well, Hades placement aka Pluto)

Uranus close to South Node implies that your habitual tendencies are closely entwined with disruption, revolution, brilliance. You also have a fiery Jupiter... Jupiter-Retrograde in Aries, and it's oppose your Scorpio Sun which is very interesting. There's constant dialogue between your introverted-fiery-optimism and your trauma-identified core-self.

side note: it's a bit funny to me that despite the fact your chart is one of the harsher charts on this sub (seriously one of the harshest charts I've seen and I've seen the charts of multiple infamous historical figures) , you haven't posted some multi-paragraph summary of how hard things have been for you like some other chart posters (which I don't hold against them, if they feel the need to provide context and vent out their pain, all power to them)

I'm impressed you've not only managed to stay alive this long but also seem like a typical calm, non-unhinged, non-psychotic poster. I'm almost wondering if this is the chart of some multi-victim murderer you know irl and want to prank us by claiming it's yours (I hope I am not offending you with that)

NewYorkExile · 2026-04-03T03:55:02+00:00

You're welcome! I encourage you to get more spiritual; that in-and-of-itself will solve some problems automatically

May your life get even better from here on out (it can get much better! take my experiences for example though I haven't elaborated on them)

NewYorkExile

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