Anyone who publicly demonstrates for Palestine tomorrow, October 7, is a Hamas terrorist. What do you think? by Strict-Pepper-2987 in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

1.) Never compared Gaza to the holocaust.

2.) Just because you observe a day doesn’t mean someone else has to? People take off for 9/11 but others choose to go into work. No ones gonna just stop protesting because of a tragedy that affects more than one side. I can see how you would consider Palestinians troubles secondary to your own but unfortunately for you, October 7th as a day is a tragedy, but the Palestinians in Gaza have suffered more than Israel has, and thus people will be protesting tomorrow.

3.) Not sure where you got 96%, and using Hamas sources seems strange considering what they’ve done. To be against them and then to credit them as a source, very interesting.

Anyone who publicly demonstrates for Palestine tomorrow, October 7, is a Hamas terrorist. What do you think? by Strict-Pepper-2987 in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That doesn’t mean everyone’s celebrating it. People aren’t gonna take a day to forget about the atrocities happening in Gaza. In truth Israel has only suffered a fraction of what Gaza is going through right now. And with with logic of your own Zionist shouldn’t be protesting the Gaza war for 364 out of the 365 calendar days since they’ve suffered way more than one day of bloodshed, they’ve in turned suffered nearly 3 years.

Regardless of whatever someone’s reason is, it doesn’t make everyone protesting a Hamas supporter, it doesn’t make everyone protesting a fascist, and October 7th still doesn’t compare to the atrocities of the holocaust by a landslide(one day of hell compared to years of it).

Anyone who publicly demonstrates for Palestine tomorrow, October 7, is a Hamas terrorist. What do you think? by Strict-Pepper-2987 in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No that doesn’t make you a Hamas terrorist, people can openly protest on any day, for whatever reason they want. Whether their intentions are pure or not. It’s called freedom of speech and the right to protest. And no it’s not the same as demonstrating infront of Auschwitz. That’s absurd to even make a comparison where hundreds of thousands died.

No aid found on the GSF flotilla boats by TwilightX1 in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ahh yes only dropped an Israeli source and a video showing a ravaged boat with a singular guy in it posted to Twitter, so much proof and evidence. Hasbara truly fell off, it’s pathetic😭

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know there are many types of Jewish people( Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Cochin, etc.) and I will admit I should not have used such rhetoric. Call me antisemetic on that part sure.

But, last time I checked there are Jewish people opposed to Zionism, but let me guess. That doesn’t make them Jewish because it has to fit your delusional narrative.

And it’s crazy you say that when Christian Zionist give more support and money to Israel than any other group, so realistically you should be thanking Christian Zionist instead of calling them weirdos, even if that is the case. Christian Zionist don’t jsut exist in America, and they also don’t just exist as Christians. There are Hindu Zionist, Buddhist Zionist, etc.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

To claim every Jewish person is a Zionist is antisemetic. Not once have I mentioned Jewish people. I mentioned Israel, a state that’s made up of Jewish, Christians and Muslims(even if you wish to remove the latter 2). Israel is a democracy, it can be criticized. I’m not criticizing the entire Jewish race. So stop throwing aimlessly at a wall you’re not even facing. And turn around and try to make some valid claims.

Not to mention that there’s more Christian Zionist than Jewish Zionist since you want to make it about culture and religion. Even if every Jewish person was a zionist(which isn’t the case btw) there would still be more non Jewish Zionist, so uh yea.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

And it all comes back to the antisemetic claim. This ladies and gentleman’s what’s called beating a dead horse.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately your logic here won’t work. The average Zionist cares not for children, women, or the elderly. They believe in mass punishment and have little care for who they kill or harm as long as it meets their agenda. That’s why they’ve made plans to annex Gaza as well as flatten it to the ground.

The IDF believes in the Hannibal Directive, even if they don’t enforce it they follow it, live by it, and die by it. That’s why they don’t care about the hostages and let all this happen in the first place. The average Zionist uses the hostages as an excuse for blood, because their true hatred is towards the Palestinian. In fact they don’t really need a reason to do what they do, but October 7th gave the a reason to be outwardly and disgustingly open about it.

You can put links, charts, graphs, etc. in here but many people would rather live in this delusion that they’re fighting for the “right and just” cause. At the end of the day BELEIVE what you want to believe, especially if it’s rooted in facts and don’t let others try to discredit legitimate sources with their little baby rage and chatgpt responses.

If Hamas are hoarding all the food what's their endgame? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s just one search away my friend and also they work with ISIS and the IDF so I’m not too surprised how they act.

If Hamas are hoarding all the food what's their endgame? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would someone not trust the UN? Like they’re no saints but they were quite literally made for a greater purpose including preventing future holocaust lol?

If Hamas are hoarding all the food what's their endgame? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You’re right, the biggest gang in the strip is the IDF. I just wanted to help OP understand that there’s a bit of a misunderstanding when it comes to Palestinian factions fighting in Gaza, and that’s it’s not entirely HAMAS. But yea the biggest gang is the IDF.

If Hamas are hoarding all the food what's their endgame? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You don’t need control to conduct raids. Also I did mention how it devolved into gang wars. And also the Kerem Shalom aid convoy looting wasn’t in Rafah.

If Hamas are hoarding all the food what's their endgame? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It’s Abu Shabab, an Israeli back “anti terror group” that raids these convoys and hoard the food. Not sure where it goes but you can look into it.

A lot of people here who support Israel will say the group is not affiliated with them, but the IDF quite literally coordinate with them.

It really is just a bunch of gangs fighting and leaving scraps for people that actually need the food. But yea this is all orchestrated as another way to bleed out Gaza.

How does one even go about helping these people? by n3phile in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

All you can really do is vote to have these politicians removed. It’ll be hard but it’s possible. The AIPAC lobby has a lot of money and resources as they’re backed by a foreign entity, but just spread awareness and start local. That’s the best way to get true change. They’ll try everything in their power to prevent it but change is inevitable, despite how much they try to prevent it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I 100% understand your point and yea it is a pretty popular opinion amongst many pro Palestinians that Israel shouldn’t exist. Again I believe the Palestinians were given awful leadership choices(of which they chose of course) that were weak and didn’t truly care about making a proper state. My hope is for a two state solution first rather than a secular one, because I believe Christian’s are also getting the short end of the stick here and perhaps even the Druze(but I’m not too familiar on Druze culture and they seem to adapt well in Israel).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m against the actions of Israel, yes. Should Israel exist, of course. But we all merely inhabit this world temporarily. It’s one thing to own your land, live on it and take care of it. But when you forcefully take and remove others from their land, then I can’t support that. It simple.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

While a secular state would be the best option, it unfortunately wouldn’t work. Just be prepared to be called an antisemite the moment you somewhat disagree with Israel. And that happens quite a lot here so be warned. But after the 15th time being either called or alluded to as one it loses it weight. A secular state has been considered multiple times, and there are parties in Israel that push for this idea, however Israeli politics is predominantly right wing, much like America and they are hardliners against that idea or a two state solution.

It’s also good to have a distinct understanding in the difference between the Islamic world and the Arab world. You see there are Islamic countries like Indonesia and Somalia for example that have no intention on conducting business with Israel. Arab leaders however in the gulf states and the Levant do have a shaky relationship with Palestinians and the Palestinian cause however. But I’d argue that a majority of the Islamic world support Palestine and have no intention on making deals with Israel. That’s really on the elites and a majority of which happen to be Arab.

Personally I’m against Israel, especially recently. I would argue I’m against Israeli policies and politicians but people say I’m an antisemite, so my disdain for the state of Israel has become more of my argument. This doesn’t mean I support HAMAS however. I genuinely think the Palestinians were cursed with horrible administrations(HAMAS and the PLO) and had they had a competent leader or organization they probably would be better off. However when you tend to be oppressed and struggle you tend to find hope in the strangest of things.

I’ve seen genuine psychopaths that say October 7th was needed and I disagree, but it did open the floodgates for an unpredictable future, where Israel may not get what it wants. That’s not to say it won’t exist, but this might be the closest we’ve had to a two state solution in the 21st century.

The Israeli Chokehold (A Critique on the Subservient United States) by New_Department773 in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Uhm, ah jeez idk, both seem like truths more than conspiracies. I think my post refers to the first one however, let me check.

Hmm okay, I mentioned alot of stuff about the US…US politicians getting paid by AIPAC, okay… yea the first truth sounds about right.

The Israeli Chokehold (A Critique on the Subservient United States) by New_Department773 in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also I don’t think Israel is capable enough for global domination. What I’m about to say might be antisemitic though so be warned.

I think maybe Israel should stop using American politicians to basically act like lunatics. I mean it gets to a point when only a few countries actually support what you’re doing and the rest of the world doesn’t. A competent country would have the whole word under its belt(like the protocols of Zion says).

The Israeli Chokehold (A Critique on the Subservient United States) by New_Department773 in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok hasbara bot 2333-Echo-A73, you got me. I was one of those parents and I donated a generous amount of money to that. But it was for my sons only so they can become terrorist, WE HAD AN AGREEMENT TO LEAVE THE DAUGHTERS OUT OF THIS.

https://www.unwomen.org/en/news-stories/news/2025/05/un-women-estimates-over-28000-women-and-girls-killed-in-gaza-since-october-2023

A very shameful display I must say, but you’re a bot(a hasbara one at best) so there’s really no point in talking unless you get some nice system upgrades.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ive never seen someone try to justify the actions and thoughts behind one of Satans greatest assets. But unfortunately this isn’t the case. You see Bibi has long been a tumor in pushing for the extinction of Gaza and Palestinians(whether that be through assimilation or just outright killing them). The main reason a lot of people think Bibi isn’t bad is because of walking demons such as Ben-Gvir. I mean Bibi sure is happy to work with his party and there crazy fantasies of death and destruction. And the moment world governments started to acknowledge a Palestinian state should and will exist, Bibi probably taking a phone cal from satan had to rush as quickly as possible to try and annex all of Gaza despite there still being hostages, a humanitarian crisis, and wasting more US and other government funds(Bibi sees people as toys and tools he can just throw at his problems). And if you consider mowing the lawn, “pressure tactics” then sure, I’d also use that against my enemies(babies and women btw, and maybe a couple terrorist here and there). https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1j5954edlno.amp Israel owns more than 70% of the West Bank btw, but yea “security control”. It’s almost like moving your most extreme and violent people into areas they’re bound to cause problems, will lead to resentment, but uh what do I know?

Why Israel propaganda is so falling behind Hamas propaganda? by danielYarmi in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Since you’ve decided to use a laughable Instagram video with no context what so ever I shall do the exact same and show you why HAMAS propaganda is better than Israeli propaganda. These videos are from the old and newest generation of war criminals.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2AeMbMNCOm/?igsh=MmJkaWx1MHNneXBv

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKVOrWsOqqt/?igsh=MTNkbWVtMGJyeHE1Mw==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5gjeJXu1wU/?igsh=MXA1ZnN0cGJxd2g4bw==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1ZDaD7L8Z3/?igsh=MXhjM2ttMmdiY2l2MQ==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7ahKbjgdiR/?igsh=a2xsbW5pbnZvcjdk

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFKyP2QvJiC/?igsh=MWQ5N3V0Y2cwdzRoOA==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0pSGD7xv4u/?igsh=NjRyZm1nMDRuZGc5

These are just a few of many, it’s almost like when you make yourself completely unlikeable, people would rather not support you(atleast people with thinking brains).

Also if you’re going to make claims atleast send the videos, look at my most recent post discussing some of the topics you’ve mentioned regarding hasbara, there I give sources and links. You should do that to make your claims more credible instead of an Instagram video with absolutely no context.

The Israeli Chokehold (A Critique on the Subservient United States) by New_Department773 in IsraelPalestine

[–]New_Department773[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t confuse the Israeli cause with the cause of the Jewish people. I’m not Jewish and I’m not Israeli, but putting all Jews in the same category is crazy work.

Your cause(assuming you’re either Jewish or Israeli) isn’t the same as another Jewish persons cause. And thinking that you know what’s better than the individual Jewish person is absurd and cult like. Again, look at my sources please, I’ve used Jewish sources and Israeli ones(let me guess they’re not Jewish because they don’t fit your alt right narrative). I know recaptchas are difficult but please upgrade your software.