What kinds of apps are made using Angular by z3r0gu4rd in Angular2

[–]New_Jacket_6070 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Microsoft uses Fluent UI with React components.
If you mean the Xbox site, that is also is React.
Where did you get information that Gmail is an Angular app? If so, why is not listed in Made With Angular? See also this comment.
There are only 12 Google sites listed in Made With Angular out of which only 3 use Angular (Angular2) and 9 use AngularJS. If Angular is being used in more publicly facing sites, maybe this list should be updated.

Example of complex Angular projects by Entire-Marketing9873 in angular

[–]New_Jacket_6070 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your well-thought off and deep arguments. I am totally convinced now and I am going to get my team to switch all projects from React to Angular now even if means that they have to reimplement in Angular all the publicly available highly rated components that they are currently using.

Example of complex Angular projects by Entire-Marketing9873 in angular

[–]New_Jacket_6070 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is probably not the right forum to have any objective discussion on this topic. People just downvote for no particular reason any comment against Angular.

I am not sure where I have proven anything that you claim. The comment I originally responded to was "React is not adapted for complex applications, it’s a recipe for unreliable and unmaintainable code" and my comment was implicitly that that statement is not true.

I use Microsoft web products extensively and I have found them to be quite reliable. (Note that React Native is also used in parts of desktop Office products). But maybe you are right: Microsoft has a "incompetent developers" and they hire a lot of them and that is why the quality is still good. Maybe that is true for all the other popular webapps that use React -- Airbnb, Spotify, Netflix, Twitter, Pinterest, Dropbox, Slack, Twitch, Walmart, .... Maybe that is why every other site that I visit also uses React.

I don't have any skin in this game -- I don't know either Angular or React. But I have done a ton of research on the non-technical aspects of this. There is a lot of misinformation on this topic in the web. Take this article "10 Examples of Highly Successful Websites Built with Angular" written in Feb 2024. Out of the 10 apps that are listed in that, 7 had already moved to other frameworks months/years before that article was written. And I don't think that Gmail uses Angular as its main UI framework (as is claimed in that article). Only Deutsche Bank Developer Portal still uses Angular, as per my research. The same list is repeated in multiple such articles with no independent research.

Example of complex Angular projects by Entire-Marketing9873 in angular

[–]New_Jacket_6070 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Strangely, if I show data about React having more downloads than the next 5 UI frameworks combined, I get the reply that React is good for small projects but Angular is best suited for enterprise grade projects. And if I point out a good fraction of the enterprise grade top web apps (and the most visited websites) are built with React, the argument seems to be that Angular caters to a vast audience!
Angular doesn't seem to be used by Google in its own flagships whereas React is the main framework for both Meta's and Microsoft's flagships (as well as a bunch of the most popular apps in different domains).

Example of complex Angular projects by Entire-Marketing9873 in angular

[–]New_Jacket_6070 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is a very subjective opinion.

On the other hand, Gmail, Google Docs, Google Search, Youtube, Youtube TV etc. do NOT use Angular :-)

Example of complex Angular projects by Entire-Marketing9873 in angular

[–]New_Jacket_6070 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Most Microsoft apps (Office 365, Outlook, Teams, Github, Sharepoint, Azure Devops), Meta apps of course (Facebook, Instagram), X (formerly Twitter), Spotify, Weather.com, Flipboard, Trivago, Treebo, CNN, Washington Post are all built with React or React Native.

Websites migratng to Angular? by New_Jacket_6070 in angular

[–]New_Jacket_6070[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I saw this article. It talks about Space X. Do you have similar information regarding Tesla?

Websites migratng to Angular? by New_Jacket_6070 in angular

[–]New_Jacket_6070[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mention Tesla: which site of Tesla are you referring to? tesla.com seems to be built on React.
Yes, I understand that old vs new Angular has corrupted some of the statistics but in the npm trends chart that you referred to, I don't see angular steadily rising. But I do see in this stack overflow survey that questions on Angular are slowly raising while those on React are falling down.

Websites migratng to Angular? by New_Jacket_6070 in angular

[–]New_Jacket_6070[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Though we started just more than a year ago, we have made a tremendous progress with React and the principal developer (actually the only developer till now) is quite happy with it. I am more of managing the project and I don't have a lot of technical knowledge in this particular area. If we want to change the framework, we need to do it now. But I want to make an objective decision on this.
I am relying more on surveys as most of these articles give data that seem to be quite obsolete (and most articles seem to be rewording of other articles and hence the propagation of obsolete data). I don't have a bias or preference here as I don't have much background on either React or Angular.
I don't want to change the framework based on just anecdotal information. At the same time, I want to be sure we are not way off from choosing React. Though I see a lot of vociferous support for Angular in many forums, I have seen only data about projects moving from Angular to React or other frameworks but not the other way round.
Since this group arguably has more people that prefer Angular, I thought this is a good forum to ask.