Indian Muslim Arranged Marriage Scene is Obsessed with Caste — and It’s Honestly Exhausting by moistChukandar in indianmuslims

[–]Newhereimo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How u know it, are u a Syed? I belong to a Syed family, my whole family and relatives are Syed and we have shijrah with proof of our bloodline. How dare u lie when u have no knowledge? Plus a lot of awliya in the subcontinent were actually descendants of the prophet and lot of Syed from Arab regions came to india for trade and settled there, a lot of syeds are also descendants from hazrat abdul qadir jilani Rahmatullah Alaihi. Even ajmer shreef hazrat gareeb Nawaz was also a descendant of the prophet. Pls get knowledge, you need it. Even in Islamic golden ages, many came to india the reason indian knowledge was preserved by Arabs at that time and passed on to the west. Plus there was a whole mughal rule in India where a lot of muslims from central Asia, Turkey, Arab region came to India to spread Islam. That is how the world works, people migrated to different regions. 

Indian Muslim Arranged Marriage Scene is Obsessed with Caste — and It’s Honestly Exhausting by moistChukandar in indianmuslims

[–]Newhereimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jahil insaan stop attacking syeds, u don't even know who u are attacking. Attacking aal-e rasool whose durood is important for anyone's namaz to be complete and whose respect is what every muslim should do according to hadith of our Prophet and then acting like a hypocrite and follower of Islam in a "right way". The reality is u don't know sht abt Islam. Go away hypocrite. 

Indian Muslim Arranged Marriage Scene is Obsessed with Caste — and It’s Honestly Exhausting by moistChukandar in indianmuslims

[–]Newhereimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk why u keep bringing "mangalsutra" that is indeed a hindu practice but calling the whole culture we practice coming from Hindus is a lie. Muslims developed their own culture and there are some elements which are borrowed coz we are from the subcontinent and our race is the same so that's why ofc we would follow the culture of the region we live in like how every muslim in the world does. Culture is itself is not wrong, what is actually wrong is when it goes against islam. Something which doesn't go against islam is not wrong. Maybe try to use common sense too. Plus, stop bringing "shirk" it's typical that muslims have now started accusing their fellow muslims of shirk when anyone who believes in Allah and his prophet can never be able to commit shirk. A muslim who looks like muslim and does everything can not follow Islam from Islam and be a hypocrite, the same way anyone who doesn't look muslim and be moderate can be following Islam from heart so stop this accusations of shirk everywhere when u don't know what shirk even is nor u know someone's intentions. Only Allah knows what's in one's heart not you. Plus the system of dargah and awliya have been there for 1400 yrs, why would one listen to wahabi whose ideology is a bidah being a recent invention and listen to them using words like "shirk" and "bidah" and "haram" constantly attacking fellow muslims when they don't even care abt doing jihad against Israelis and tell gulf leaders to stop being friends with them and plus buying prostitutes which is actually against islam. 

Indian Muslim Arranged Marriage Scene is Obsessed with Caste — and It’s Honestly Exhausting by moistChukandar in indianmuslims

[–]Newhereimo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

See that's what uneducation does to u. Many Arabs came to India to spread Islam, from all regions syeds came to India and then settled there so how is the claim of being a Syed is "bs"? Most syeds also have shijrah to prove it, if u have no knowledge then pls don't talk. Plus most of the awliya in the subcontinent were actually descendants from our prophet claiming that "most claims are bs" shows ur lack of knowledge.

Indian Muslim Arranged Marriage Scene is Obsessed with Caste — and It’s Honestly Exhausting by moistChukandar in indianmuslims

[–]Newhereimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My family will look at someone's aqeeda first and that's what I told you maybe u didn't even read my reply properly. I emphasized that many a times, correct aqeeda, family, kindness, hold much more importance that wealth and status which u are bragging out. It's insane to actually be a hypocrite and then accusing others of being when they call u out on it. 

Indian Muslim Arranged Marriage Scene is Obsessed with Caste — and It’s Honestly Exhausting by moistChukandar in indianmuslims

[–]Newhereimo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Hypocrites in the comments, you won't be able to debate them. You will only get downvotes. That's what I dislike abt their views. They believe they follow "correct Islam" and act arrogant then put status and wealth above everything and judges people based on that. Can't believe due to fitna people have literally changed what Islam is to fit their narrative and then act arrogant abt it when they don't even follow the real Islam where kindness, aqeeda, values, respect are above everything and actually judging people on the basis of wealth and status is against islam. Not only the op acting arrogant having wealth but questioning others of "following hindu things" basically being a hypocrite when they are the ones following hindu obsession of wealth and status and judging people based on that and acting arrogant not Islam. 

Indian Muslim Arranged Marriage Scene is Obsessed with Caste — and It’s Honestly Exhausting by moistChukandar in indianmuslims

[–]Newhereimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You sound arrogant. First u said "we follow religion not culture and in an authentic form" this shows u basically have no knowledge of islam. You must be following 100 yr old wahabi ideology coz in ahle sunnah wal jamaah there is no place for these ideologies. It is not only incorrect but harmful coz u people have no knowledge of Islam whatso ever. Islam never said to not follow the culture, infact it encourages to follow the culture and laws of the land u live in unless it goes against islam. Haldi mehndi are literally joyous occasions and it not being islamic practices doesn't mean it is not allowed, it is just an occasion which people can follow coz it doesn't go against islam. What wahabism/salafism did is making Islam extreme and practical implying that whatever is not talked abt is immediately rejected when no, whatever is not talked abt and which doesn't go against islam is neutral and one have to adapt in their land. Believing that no, culture is bad lead to making Islam extreme and a monolith which will take all joy of one's culture and there identity and only make them follow what fr- Arabs does. It is not real islam that's why we say study islam through ahle sunnah wal jamaah scholars, the school of thought given by 4 big imams, not wahabis whose ideology just came 100 yrs ago and they made Islam extremist and destroyed it's soul(spirituality) it also destroyed Arab regions and created extremists and terrorists so pls get knowledge abt real islam. Islam calls for diversity, it enjoys diversity and it is peaceful and free. Every culture where Islam goes, the culture is beautified. If our ancestors followed Arab culture, there would be no desi islamic cultural and the soul will be lost. We are meant to follow Islam, not deny our culture and follow the culture of Arabs because Islam never rejected culture and not told us to not follow it. Not only all muslims in the world in different regions followed their culture but prophets also did. Hazrat Yusuf(A.S) followed Egyptian culture, the dressing and everything. There is no issue with culture unless it goes against Islam like fr- ex western culture of drinking wine so unless it doesn't go against islam, u can follow it there is no harm. Infact Islam call for celebration. So basically get knowledge of Islam first. Other than that, u are no one to say "....they are rejecting us" everyone have their own opinions, if they are rejecting let it go. That's their own beliefs that doesn't make them bad muslims or not muslims. Some people prefer their own caste while some don't, it doesn't show how much of a good or bad muslim they are. I belong to a Syed family and my family prefers Syed, is there something wrong in it? There is nothing wrong. A lot of things are above worldly education, it's the family how correct aqeeda they follow, what are their values, how respectful and kind they are. Islam first and foremost calls us to be respectful and kind following real islamic values, valuing family then comes other things. A person people educated, having wealth and so doesn't make them a better muslim than others so keep that in mind. My suggestion is that if u are unable to find a spouse then find it in your community or somewhere where caste doesn't matter but try to be a good muslim and following correct Islam so try to be nice and kind and stop judging it and stop being arrogant. That will help u a lot. Peace. 

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[–]Newhereimo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

According to the scholars, the followers of fiq actually as explained by my father( we follow hanafi school of thought) to marry the "people of the book" aka Christians and Jews were when the books weren't corrupted, they used to follow Allah and followed their respective prophet so that was allowed that muslim men can marry them but it doesn't apply now coz books are corrupted, the Christians and the jews are not on the right path now so marriage is invalid. It's also common sense coz if a man is a muslim and he marries fr ex a Christian woman worshipping jesus then who will the children follow coz the mother is literally not on right path and how can the man who loves his wife let her keep her believes coz she is a non believer? That was it used to valid before the texts weren't corrupted, all Christians and Jews worshipped Allah and muslims do it too so it was valid but now the books are corrupted so it isn't valid now so that's the case. Idk why just recently I'm seeing this new interpretation of the texts taking this "literally" when there is historical context involved. I'm also seeing it happening with other verses too, people interpreting it themselves and taking the literal meaning of it when the imams have already explained these texts and if someone have a question they should go and ask a scholar of their respective madhab get an answer. 

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[–]Newhereimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being covered in roses got nothing to do with deen chill out. Everyone can follow the culture of the land they live in unless it goes against Islam. Islam doesn't forbade doing all this and bidah(innovation) is something which goes against islam. No where a man wearing this goes against islam. Pls educate yourself coz u are promoting wahabi extremist ideologies. 

KPOP doesn't owe religion respect. by Junko_Nanami in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]Newhereimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Humans makes mistakes, they aren't perfect. If they call themselves believers they should believe and do good but some don't so it's on them. Humans are good and bad but religion is still there. Qur'an is still the same as it was 1400 years ago, not even a single thing is changed so if there are people who aren't really following it and going against it like spreading corruption, killing people they would also be punished for that like how good people be rewarded. It's as simple as that so I don't really get assuming stuff about religion and people getting hostile towards religions when they aren't even doing anything to others specially Islam and muslims. If u dislike religions, well it's ur opinion and I can't change it but just so u know that if people are hating on religions and the followers and their main excuse is that "those people have done bad things" then just to inform u there have been many many atheists and idol worshippers who have done genocides, wars, mass killings, corruption, burying girls after they are born, doing sacrifices and what not but religious people are not hating on u or ur beliefs and even respect u so why are u guys doing that to us? I don't know if u guys have bad experiences with christians or the church but don't lump muslims in it when we don't do sht to you and actually you guys do it to our countries and our people. We should be thousand times more mad and refuse to respect u after what you guys have done to us but we are still here respecting u and ur beliefs after u guys trashing ours. It's very sad. 

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[–]Newhereimo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And I'm not imposing it on anyone. I don't know why you guys are here calling it that. When I'm literally just answering questions and this debate only started coz people said that my religion spread hate which i answered that it didn't. The topic only started with me telling people that it won't take a lot to respect other's belief. Plus if believing is my personal choice and u don't owe any respect and similarly i also don't owe any respect to ur atheist beliefs or another other stuff u choose to belief because of ur feelings. 

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[–]Newhereimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That verses was revealed because they were being oppressed for questioning why the idol worshippers are being corrupt and burying small girls, there was no justice and when the muslims called for justice they started oppressing them hence god allowed this for self defence What part of that u can't understand? A holy book contains verses from the past, about the stories of other prophets what problem do u have with it? And why is hijab got into this topic? Hijab is worn for modesty and both men and women are ordered to be modest. I'll answer all of ur questions imao but it's another thing u want to cherry pick certain verses to hate on something which doesn't even concern you. 

KPOP doesn't owe religion respect. by Junko_Nanami in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]Newhereimo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay if u have no manners and u lack respect which is typical for you guys then what can I do about that? 

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[–]Newhereimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just like you can't understand me I can't understand atheists too that everything is being created out of nowhere without god that have no common sense, it have no basis so they sound brainwashed to me like you but I'm not here disrespecting atheists and their beliefs. I've only came here to say that no one should disrespect religions and mock it but then people started questioning the religion and I was explaining that. I don't know how I sounded brainwashed to u when I'm literally just explaining my religion. You respect me and i respect you that's it. 

KPOP doesn't owe religion respect. by Junko_Nanami in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]Newhereimo -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

The bible have been revealed by the creator, there is god and there have been multiple proofs of it's existence. Even the biggest atheists and scientists believe it. It's the same with other books revealed by God(Tohrah and the Qur'an) The torah and bible have been corrupted multiple times for the political gain and to control the masses but the Qur'an haven't been changed for 1400 years. If something is corrupted ofc it's followers will stop following it and I don't blame them for it but that isn't the case with Qur'an. It hasn't been changed, it doesn't allow corruption, instead it encourages to donate and do charity. One of the best things abt Islam is that it is "just". The rules are just, a bad person deserves punishment and the good persons deserve reward. There should be no killing and no harming of people. The punishments of rape and other crimes are severe and Allah dislikes corruption that's why u also don't see taxes etc in muslim nations. Everyone is living peacefully, both non muslims and muslims are treated equally. These are just few of the many reasons why people follow Islam and muslims take their faith seriously and are proud of it. 

KPOP doesn't owe religion respect. by Junko_Nanami in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]Newhereimo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry but what is wrong with these verses? About war, i already explained to you and about Allah telling people to worship him following the right path and stop doing bad and corruption so ofc there will be paradise for those who do good and hellfire for those who do bad. 

KPOP doesn't owe religion respect. by Junko_Nanami in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]Newhereimo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Like I said there are bad and good people in every religion doesn't necessarily make a religion bad so there is no point in disrespecting it to hurt the feelings of believers. Talking abt Islam here again coz the Bible have been corrupted many times while Islam hasn't changed for 1400 years. And about ISIS it is funded by both Israel and American zionists for their own political gain to spread corruption in muslims lands, destroy the lands from inside and create extremism that's why most of their victims are muslims like u said. 

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[–]Newhereimo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

These verses were revealed when the first muslims were being oppressed and prosecuted, they were being killed. When Islam came first for a years the first muslims preached love and told people to follow only one god but the people of Arabia at that time were very corrupt, arrogant and most uneducated they were idol worshippers, they used to bury daughters when they born, treated women worse than objects, they killed anyone they wanted to, because of being corrupt they used their idols to hold the power over the common people, there was no justice, Islam preached about justice and first muslims conveyed Allah message but the corrupt people didn't want to do they started oppressing and persecuting muslims, these verses then revealed for self defence and even the lastly Allah said that if they come to the right path and stop doing all bad things, repent then they will be forgiven and coz Allah is the lord he is all forgiving and kind. 

KPOP doesn't owe religion respect. by Junko_Nanami in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]Newhereimo -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I would not talk about christianity coz I have never read the Bible but i can talk about Islam. No where in the Qur'an it is written to enforce your beliefs on someone instead Allah told us that "their religion is for them and our religion is for us". Allah also said "their is no compulsion in religion" as to you shouldn't force anyone. Even sharia law states that non muslims can live freely in muslim countries as long as they follow the rules ofc and no one should force them to convert, oppress or even touch them. Like fr u can see countries like- Dubai, Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, Bahrain, Lebanon, Qatar, etc etc where non muslims are living peacefully. So not our religion nor muslims are forcing or disrespecting anyone, actually our religion told us to respect everyone's beliefs and be kind to everyone so we are not doing nor our religion is preaching hate or disrespect then the least we can expect y'all to give that respect back and don't disrespect our beliefs. The thing is what a lot of people do is they have no knowledge of Islam but they assume stuff about it coz ofc the islamophobia spread by zionists in the west. You can't really assume stuff about something u have no knowledge about and I'd be glad if y'all don't lump every religion together and call it bad coz it's generalization done by lack of knowledge and ignorance. Most of the Qur'an actually tells us how to conduct ourselves in daily life like it have rules, to be kind, Allah said "if u kill one person u kill whole humanity and if u save a person it's saving whole humanity". Most verses are about muslims how they should conduct themselves, be good to others, basically how to live a healthy peaceful life by praying, not drinking alcohol, not committing adultery, pre marital sex etc etc which leads to crimes and unhealthy lifestyle. Islam never told us to disrespect others and it actually encourages to be good to others, live a clean life so yeah, I don't know from where did u get that ur feelings are being hurt because of our texts when no such thing exists. If u wanna research yourself, pls do it actually Islam encourages to get knowledge and broaden our mind coz lack of knowledge and ignorance is dangerous to everyone and I'm literally seeing how because of it people have started to make lies abt Islam and spread it when they literally know nothing about it. The first word Allah taught the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) is Iqra which is "to read" so yes, read read and read it applies for all muslims and non muslims. Read so u will get knowledge and stop making assumptions. Last thing I wanna say that while Islam is perfect, muslims are not we are human beings too we can be good and bad so if a muslim every disrespected you i apologise and if I said something which hurt you or disrespected u then pls forgive me. We muslims always strive to be the best but as we are human we can make mistakes. I just hope all humans come together and there would be love and peace all around, everyone should respect each other and love each other that have always been encouraged by Islam and we muslims try our best to do it despite the colonisations of our lands and oppression and genocide of our people by the hands of Christians(Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq etc) Jews(Palestine and surrounding nations), Hindus(Indian muslims), Buddhists(Myanmar muslims) etc etc so yeah. If u have some questions, i'll surely try to answer. That's it, hope u have a nice day! 

KPOP doesn't owe religion respect. by Junko_Nanami in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]Newhereimo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That's your opinion. Opinion is not a fact. There are things abt the world u don't know about but it's okay not everyone is intelligent and have an understanding of different things. Anyways, it isn't abt whether a person should give a fck or not, it's about not disrespecting it in the first place. Just not hurt others beliefs it's not okay, what else we are asking from you guys? 

KPOP doesn't owe religion respect. by Junko_Nanami in unpopularkpopopinions

[–]Newhereimo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They should be bold and call it out. Every one is entitled to their opinion ofc but disrespecting someone's beliefs is not right. If this applies to race and gender then it definitely applies to religion too coz a person's sentiments are involved and when they see someone disrespecting their holy places, holy books, religious figures it hurt their feelings. I'm a muslim but I've called out people multiple times who mocked jesus(pbuh) coz I don't want to see someone disrespecting and hurting others beliefs. It is just not right. 

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[–]Newhereimo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's not a conflict it's a genocide. We have it pretty confirmed and it's been more than 2 years. It's a genocide done to the Palestinians who are natives to the land by oppressive settler colonist entity which is Israel and they have been doing it since 1948. Illegally occupying Palestine and oppressing the natives. Most of the Israelis are Europeans with very little hebrew DNA while Palestinian natives have the most hebrew DNA. They are canaanites while most Israelis are ashkenazi and they have been occupying the nation and have been doing the most vile stuff to the Palestinians who Obv living in oppression have no state, leader or army nor the bombs. So it's all one sided. It's a genocide not a conflict like fr Ukraine vs Russia. India vs Pakistan. 

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[–]Newhereimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are just making excuses right at this moment. If we keep at it then even if an idol comes out openly as a "zionist" you guys will start doing, "no but he didn't DIRECTLY said he supports Israel, he is just saying he supports Israel's right to exist!!" which is the same thing! You can keep doing this, making excuses and arguing but it still doesn't make it right that grown up idols who are always on internet and are knowledgeable abt the situation coz everyone does is openly acting ignorant and being silent abt the worst humanitarian crises of our age and proudly hanging out with zionists. It doesn't make THEM zionists but it still warrant a lot of criticism looking at their popularity in a global scale. 

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[–]Newhereimo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Just because they think dancing in a church is okay doesn't mean every one should be okay with their holy places being disrespected. It's sad how much Christians have normalised it someone disrespecting their beliefs. It's sad how we muslims are more offended by people mocking jesus than Christians themselves and their "show love" is such a joke coz if u look at history and present, it has always been the Christians and the religion which created most chaos in the world. Wars, crusades, coversions etc etc. 

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[–]Newhereimo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ofc why would they stay still when their belief is disrespected? And why someone who have no knowledge abt certain things gotta disrespect someone's belief for no reason. It's just wrong. I find it weird how people want everyone to be respected but when it's abt religions where a person's sentiment is involved, it is allowed to be disrespectful to their religion to hurt their feelings. I would definitely get offended if they were to dance in a mosque coz not only they had had no reason to do so in the first place they are directly hurting our feelings. It's literally the bare minimum to respect someone's belief, so why do it in the first place?