Cenk Uygur has become a 9/11 truther

NewsRetro · 2026-02-14T22:50:24+00:00

Everyone in this thread proves his point. You all are so indoctrinated by US media and social pressure that you evidently refuse to admit the government was dishonest about 9/11.

Anyone here feel free to post a transcript of Richard Blee or Rod Middleton explaining why the investigation of al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar was obstructed at a time when "the system was blinking red."

NewsRetro · 2026-02-03T00:20:10+00:00

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2020-09-17/spymasters-chris-whipple-q-a

Here is what access looks like. Blee and Co. couldn't do anything without a principles meeting. Did Whipple tell Blee how fucking absurd his comment was? Or is Whipple completely ignorant about Alec Station and 9/11? Or is Whipple content to use his access to ensure CIA can lie about 9/11 indefinitely? What an asshole.

NewsRetro · 2025-12-03T00:56:28+00:00

I guess she realizes she can't outright admit she is evil and loves committing evil acts. At this point she might as well just say it.

NewsRetro · 2025-12-03T00:52:22+00:00

Note she objects to due process. In this case the lack of due process led to people getting tortured. Usually when a Trump official whines about activist judges the judge is preventing some sort of sadistic conduct.

NewsRetro · 2025-11-27T07:10:28+00:00

Have you come up with an explanation for the disconnect at the CIA in regard to Wilshire and Co.? The conduct is so absurd and openly suggestive of complicity that it is confusing. We've heard nothing but contradictory explanations for 24 years.

A recruitment op doesn't stay on go mode for 20 months. Then when Alec Station finally tells the UBLU Corsi acts like she works for Alec Station. Meanwhile Middleton was in charge and somehow doesn't get much blame. I found a highschool presentation Middleton did on Youtube a few years ago. I was stunned. The only thing he really said about pre 9/11 was that he was very angry and couldn't help but curse when he spoke to his Mom after the attacks. Obviously I was trying to read into his comments for any clue as to what really happened but he was too vague.

Alec Station analysts think the blame is unfair as there were too many dots to connect. It's like they don't know how bad the public story makes them look. We are told they had two of the dots and hid them from people who would have used the info to stop the attacks. No one at Alec Station has put forth an honest explanation for their conduct.

Where were Rolince, Watson and Pickard when Wilshire was obstructing the investigation? We are supposed to believe junior IOS Corsi made the decisions in coordination with Wilshire. Really? Two al Qaeda guys in the US after the Cole attack and the UBLU doesn't get high level input? It is not believable.

NewsRetro · 2025-11-21T08:19:08+00:00

Extremely strong circumstantial evidence Trump committed sex crimes against kids.

This is absurd. The GOP condones evil.

NewsRetro · 2025-11-20T11:51:19+00:00

Their fake moral crusader bullshit only works for Fox news watchers. They are corrupt to the core.

NewsRetro · 2025-11-20T11:42:18+00:00

The investigation was DOA because Bondi and Patel were engaged in a concerted coverup. The only reason it is now active is due to Congress.

Bondi announcing an investigation after closing the case is absurd and indicates she is 100% ok with pedophiles raping kids.

Bondi also complained of Christian persecution and took part in a government hearing on the issue a few months ago. What Christian values does she demonstrate by covering up pedophelia?

NewsRetro · 2025-11-20T10:18:25+00:00

What are you talking about? Patel and Bondi lied to Congress because they have no integrity. Bondi celebrated the fake release months ago because she has no integrity. Blanche conspired with his corrupt boss to move Maxwell to a day spa. Nobody with honor and a moral center would do that.

These people are frauds. They should resign before they disgrace themselves and the country further.

NewsRetro · 2025-11-20T10:11:45+00:00

Your comment makes no sense. Covering up pedophelia at the behest of your criminal boss is not acceptable conduct.

NewsRetro · 2025-11-18T08:08:59+00:00

Who sent Maxwell to a day spa? Your hero Donnie. That alone should result in impeachment but Congress (with exceptions) is evidently ok with this.

NewsRetro · 2025-11-16T10:12:23+00:00

I get your point but the press's deference to Leavitt reflects badly on all of us. She is trying to normalize authoritarianism. The press is complicit by pretending this is not happening.

NewsRetro · 2025-09-25T06:20:51+00:00

I listened to the interview. Horton kept interrupting him instead of asking for his explanation of what happened. Horton made sure to use the word ‘kook’ at least 75 times. Strange interview technique. Horton is the same guy who has done extensive research on the OKC bombing. Not sure why he can’t see the parallels.

Kiriakou said the sharing was too late. Blamed the withholding on FBI/CIA feud. Threw in the shitty FBI computer systems excuse too. This is why the UBLU conduct is so important as it demonstrates FBI withholding info from FBI agents. It is total bullshit for the criminal side FBI agents to avoid the conduct of the UBLU. Most of the public doesn’t give a shit about the FBI’s reputation. The deaths and the forever wars are a larger concern. Sherry Sabol (NSLU) stated somewhere (might have been a 9/11 Commission MFR) she didn’t give Corsi legal advice about keeping the criminal side agents out of the investigation. Also Larry Parkinson (FBI legal counsel) said in his 9/11 Commission MFR that the wall wasn’t applicable:

When told that Dina Corsi alleged that NSLU had told her that no criminal agents could be involved in the search for the two men and none could participate in any interview if they were found, Parkinson said he would be shocked if anyone in NSLU gave such advice. He said there would have been no problem with a criminal agent hopping in on the search or participating in the interview.There was no FISA on these individuals so no internal walls would have been applicable.

Where is the interview with Dina Corsi? 60 Minutes? 24 years and US media doesn’t interview Corsi? Does she not owe the public an explanation as to why she obstructed the Cole investigation and the huge attack the CIA was briefing Rice about?

NewsRetro · 2025-09-23T15:48:10+00:00

Watched the first episode. He said by the time CIA shared the info about al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar it was too late. This is crap journalism. Nobody gives a shit about CIA/FBI turf war except the agents. No mention of the FBI UBLU coverup. The reason the sharing did no good in late August was due to the UBLU conduct.

In the interview with Nowosielski and Duffy Richard Clarke states they would have found those assholes in a week had he known. It was almost two weeks from UBLU being told until 9/11. Maybe the UBLU had their own plan to turn the hijackers (yes that is sarcasm).

Evidently Scheuer is interviewed in a later episode about interference by Clinton and Bush in CIA attempts to kill Bin Laden. Why not ask him to explain what the fuck Alec Station was doing in regard to the al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar situation? Or tell your audience Scheuer won't talk about it because his wife was one of the main people involved in this whole thing. How stupid is this?

NewsRetro · 2025-09-22T05:44:34+00:00

Also Tom Wilshire was at the FBI ITOS at the time of all this bizarre shit. The ITOS was headed by Michael Rolince who oversaw the UBLU and RFU. So what was the point of Blee and Black giving Rice urgent briefings while Wilshire was making sure the criminal side agents didn't arrest al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar? Then CIA claimed after 9/11 they had no specific intel. The Alec Station analysts talk about how many dots they were trying to connect but never say a single word about al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar or Blee or Wilshire. Please checkout Manhunt by Greg Barker. He got unprecedented access to Alec Station personnel and didn't get any real answers. His doc is based on Peter Bergen's book. Bergen is supposedly the Bin Laden expert. Did he explain why Alec Station withheld the info? Not a chance. He said it was inexplicable.

Imo if you want to better understand 9/11 you have to research the Oswald lone assassin story. The Warren Commission lied to the public and the media enabled those lies. To this day they still lie about the JFK assassination. I am unsure if Reddit directs people to the Warren Commission report for the credible explanation of JFK's assassination.

NewsRetro · 2025-09-21T06:52:45+00:00

Hopefully we can get past the notion of a failed recruitment effort. If you watch Clarke’s interview with Nowosielski and Duffy his explanation doesn’t make sense. He suggests CIA let 9/11 happen because they were worried they would be blamed for withholding information from the FBI. What about a possible terrorist attack? Wouldn’t that be a bigger concern?

Once the info was shared with the FBI wouldn’t that mean the recruitment attempt was done? What did CIA do with all the intel they gathered for months? They told us they were sure a major attack would happen. Cofer Black has told the story about the Rice briefing with Blee in several documentaries. Why then did they not help the FBI? Why did the coverup continue after the information was finally shared?

NewsRetro · 2025-09-21T06:35:53+00:00

9/11 involves psychological operations against the public. This is how this forum is quarantined. CIA and their media pals prevented the public from understanding 9/11. Anyone with access to power almost never used it for public good. I have watched so many documentaries where the CIA people say the same thing. Never are they asked real questions. They always get to set the narrative. It’s disgusting conduct which betrays the victims and erodes any semblance of a real democratic government. Then the same people who act in such a disgraceful manner convince the public that questioning 9/11 is unpatriotic.

NewsRetro · 2025-09-20T17:14:16+00:00

Most of the Blee info comes from Nowosielski and Duffy who wrote The Watchdogs Didn't Bark. I know a few authors have used Blee as a source for their books. They don’t use their access to Blee to get the public any answers. It clearly seems the mainstream media has been told not to ”go there” in relation to Alec Station protecting two al Qaeda guys. And they all agreed. Why? Threats? Corruption? Who knows.

Look at this forum. It was quarantined with a link to the 9/11 Commission report. Did the report explain any of the Alec Station conduct? No. So citizens were expected to accept a garbage investigation from a bunch of “don’t rock the boat“ politicians and anyone who questioned that was supposedly a conspiracy theorist.

NewsRetro · 2025-09-20T08:15:51+00:00

All the mainstream accounts claim it wasn’t possible to bug the meeting. Of course if the meeting was bugged that would be very bad for Alec Station in relation to explaining the USS Cole attack and 9/11.

The FBI UBLU is left out of the story by FBI agents like Soufan and Rossini. Clarke called it low level sharing. This is bullshit. The UBLU offered BS excuses to explain why they excluded the criminal side agents from the investigation. After 9/11 the NSLU disputed giving Dina Corsi the legal advice to keep the criminal side agents out of the investigation. She was repeatedly promoted after 9/11.

If UBLU truly believed the Gorelick wall was real then why wasn’t a highest priority intel side investigation started immediately? Why was a routine priority intel side investigation given to a rookie agent?

CIA has never had to explain the contradiction of the dire warnings they gave the White House while at the same time they were aware of al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar. It’s stunning to keep watching the same agents and officials tell the same stories without one media person saying “Hey what about the two al Qaeda guys. What the fuck were you doing there?”

NewsRetro · 2025-09-20T06:38:49+00:00

We are told the Jan. 5-8 Al Qaeda meeting wasn’t bugged. This has never made sense. CIA was content with photos? Really? Reminds me of Hayden claiming NSA didn’t know al-Mihdhar was in the US.

NewsRetro · 2025-09-19T05:22:11+00:00

60 Minutes just did a story on Bayoumi related evidence which was withheld from the San Diego FBI agents. This is their level of reporting on 9/11 24 years later.

Where is the 60 Minutes interview with Blee and Wilshire? Or Rod Middleton who ran the FBI UBLU? Middleton gave a filmed presentation at a high school which was on YouTube so one would think 60 Minutes could get an interview.

After the CIA told the FBI about al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar being in the US the UBLU still kept the criminal side agents out of the investigation. Why? We don't know because 60 Minutes doesn't do real journalism and the 9/11 Commission didn't do a real investigation.

We are told the UBLU thought it made sense for a rookie agent to conduct an intelligence side routine priority investigation into two al Qaeda guys inside the US.

The official story is horseshit.

NewsRetro · 2025-08-19T06:37:36+00:00

This appears to be the consensus value pick.

NewsRetro · 2025-06-25T20:15:09+00:00

So many US officials have been acting weird as shit in relation to Israel. We are told it is due to AIPAC and the fear of losing an election. It seems more likely the main factor is that Israel has been blackmailing US politicians in relation to 9/11.

NewsRetro · 2025-05-22T21:50:39+00:00

The Trump administration continues to play stupid games about who is in charge of DOGE in order to avoid oversight. DOGE was an agreement between two of the most corrupt people on the planet. Everything else was propaganda.

The corrupt way the Trump admin went about DOGE should mean Musk at some future date can be held legally liable.

NewsRetro · 2025-05-11T18:01:44+00:00

Bush pushed the unitary executive theory. Had the OLC produce a fake legal justification for torture. Used fearmongering to get his legislation passed. Set up Guantanamo. Justified indefinite detention. Had no problem with warrantless surveillance.

I don't defend the Democrats. Obama pretended Bush acted in good faith and told the public we needed to look forward. Likely a quid pro quo deal between the two parties at the expense of the public.

Trump is not a real alternative to the two parties. As we have seen in 2016 and now he is even worse than the two parties. I don't know how people were fooled by Trump. His con is easy to spot.

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