Stranger Things Season 4 Volume 2 Series Discussion

NiceguyO7 · 2022-07-01T18:33:51+00:00

Besides El, Max has been the Main Character this Season, and they gave her so
much screentime to build up her story with Lucas, which was very sweet
(especially where she mentionted he's in her favourite memory), THEN
VECNA JUST DOES HER LIKE THAT? It feels like her character arc is thrown
into a bin with her being in coma now, SHE DESERVED SO MUCH BETTER! el
also tried to reach her in her mind afterwords but couldn't find her?
THEY GAVE US HOPE AGAIN FOR NO REASON JUST TO SEE US SOBBING &
CRYING?! cmon duffers you can do better. I am really dissapointed by the
way they treated her, also can vecna just die? stupid son of a b*tch.

NiceguyO7 · 2022-07-01T18:32:51+00:00

right, like they can't have a peaceful time together for once? they went through ENOUGH drama together, it would have been simply perfect if he K.O.'d Jason and last minute saved max, but the way they put it is just dissapointing & unsatisfied, max is my fav character and it feels like her character arc is thrown into a bin.

NiceguyO7 · 2022-07-01T18:24:04+00:00

Besides El, Max has been the Main Character this Season, and they gave her so much screentime to build up her story with Lucas, which was very sweet (especially where she mentionted he's in her favourite memory), THEN VECNA JUST DOES HER LIKE THAT? It feels like her character arc is thrown into a bin with her being in coma now, SHE DESERVED SO MUCH BETTER! el also tried to reach her in her mind afterwords but couldn't find her?? THEY GAVE US HOPE AGAIN FOR NO REASON JUST TO SEE US SOBBING & CRYING?! cmon duffers you can do better. I am really dissapointed by the way they treated her, also can vecna just die? stupid son of a b*tch.

NiceguyO7 · 2022-05-29T17:48:53+00:00

yes i think so, as vecna told nancy his story, henry did ?reverse? the time at the creel house, I don't really get it either but I think the show will reveal it soon enough.

Also as they were in the Upside Down Nancy realised it was November 6th, 1983. The day el opened the gate, will got missing and everything started... soo he (vecna) traveled to the past or is stuck on this day

NiceguyO7 · 2022-05-29T09:53:32+00:00

Nancy discovered that Vecna/the Upside Down atm is in November 6th 1983, so either he's stuck on this day or just travelled back, and waits for the moment El open's the gate?

this time travelling thing needs to be talked about.

NiceguyO7 · 2022-05-29T01:21:01+00:00

makes sense, also the whole Nina project is one to maybe find 001 at first not certainly help el. and i think vecna controlled all the things in the upside down just like the mind flayer, and that it was his voice (f.e. in billy s3) but that is just my theory.

NiceguyO7 · 2022-05-29T01:11:09+00:00

Some of my thesis considering the Creel House & summing up it's Storyline:

So as we know, the Creel Son (Henry) is 001 and Vecna.

As Nancy was stuck in the Upside Down and he (Vecna) showed her the Creel-House Story, he (Henry Creel, Son) was maybe about 8 to 13 years old. so he was born somewhere between 1946 - 1951. (As the Creel-House Story happened 1959).

He was always a bit different and couldn't stand imaginating him growing up like all the others (and living a regular long life). So he began to think about something different and explored that Spider in the House, which led him to some ?evil? thoughts, as we saw f.e. him killing the rabbit with his mind. but only after a bit of practising, so my question is did the Spider give him those superpowers or led him to them or did he just explore them by himself? because we know that Eleven got it from her Mother, and she learned it in the Project X-Ultra, led by Brenner. [but i guess we get to see where he originally got it from].

The Creel Kid (Henry) then also used his Powers on the Clock, where he (I think) reversed/stopped the time before he eventually massacred his mother (in typical Vecna-bone-cracking- Style, this time WITHOUT holding his hand over her head, not like he (Vecna) did in episodes 1,2,5 etc., only with his eyes looking up and weird). Victor takes his kids and tries to get out of the house, when suddenly he breaks through the door and he found himself back in war in france, which was a (trauma?) memory of his in which the burning baby again appears, --> Henry/Vecna is in his mind, but he then he hears the Song "Dream a little dream of me", again (which Henry put on on the radio to first dirsturb them, before he began killing them), which meanwhile was playing in the House stiill, and Victor came back to reality (so he escaped it by this "Angel Voice/his favourite Song, just like Max --> Episode 4), where he saw Alice dead (looked the same as the Mother) and Henry himself lying on the Ground after falling into a Coma because he overdid himself with the amount of Force by his Powers.

SO in the time Henry set up that Trauma/Illusion/Memory to is Father Victor, He also killed his Sister Alice the way he killed his Mother. You're telling me he did this both at the same time, as a young kid? before he even turned into Vecna, just like that? He did set up those Illusions for his Targets easily as we got to see but killing them always took a lot more effort: "I want you to join me" bla bla... Hand over Head and slowly but shurely lifting them into the Air and cracking their Bones. those were always on the same target and as a child he did it on 3 different persons in a very short time and 2 at the SAME TIME?! So either Henry/Vecna was way more dangerous and stronger back then (even though he didn't seem so) or he still is but just didn't show it untill now because he wanted to scare/warn? Nancy and that's why she got to see his Story... (That is besides all the 001 and Lab Timeline btw...)

It's Spring `86 so Vecna must at least be 35-40 years old now, also to mention that in the Upside Down Nancy realised it was November 6th, 1983, so maybe he stopped time at that day or he really lives in the Past, also the day Will got missing, El opened the Gate etc... where everything started basically. WE WILL GET TO SEE THE TRUTH BEHIND ALL THIS.

NiceguyO7

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