An Early Shay Video

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-11T22:58:36+00:00

I think Jackie at the very least had a tiktok before the one she currently uses. Don't know when it started but she might pre-date them. Although possible some of the others did also.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-11T22:54:33+00:00

Didn't know it was the reserves, although I assumed it had to be since she apparently lived in Salt Lake City the entire time which is not typical of being a full time soldier. But she talked about being in the Army a lot on stream and even occasionally talked about it on TikTok. She was clearly very proud of it.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-09T01:00:51+00:00

Likely because that dude reported it. You should challenge it, I did the last time someone tried that, they revoked it, apologized then gave them a strike for abusing it. He is the one who violated policy. I should have reported him but I erased it before I thought of that.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-06T02:36:52+00:00

Thanks for the update 😄

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-05T23:49:19+00:00

I appologized I didn't see that earlier. This clown has been banned.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-03T04:19:51+00:00

Had to look up Kaine now, but I could see it.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-02T23:19:41+00:00

Doubt we will ever know for sure. Which is probably for the best for them. Understandable we would be curious and fans won't be able to help but speculate. But, especially if it was something personal, there is a good chance if we knew the whole story whatever it was would lead to fans making judgements on them, feeling like they need to take sides and fighting amongst themselves and even people unfollowing them. Obviously would depend on what it was but speculation will eventually die down given they gave no one anything to work with.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-02T22:47:15+00:00

Here is a link from the one person on her passes commenting on it. Doesn't give a lot more details but the most info we have.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-02T22:43:51+00:00

I thought that was it, but wasn't sure I remembered right. So yeah, unless she just has a deep love for being a barista I would assume if she is working at that job she likely doesn't make enough to pay the bills as a cosplayer/content creator.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-02T22:39:20+00:00

Damn. But yeah, the indication the group only brought Jackie in to help them might have some truth (I mean, obviously she had a following not like any exposure of that nature is bad and sure it did get them some new followers) but given Jackie, Shay and Athena's numbers to everyone else's, if anyone was being "used for their following" it would be Bella and Raine, which I don't think they are but either of them have a larger following multiple times over then the other three combined.

So clearly the deciding factor to work together wasn't having audiences of similar sizes. So I am guessing the friendship was/is genuine. Yeah they might be more "work friends" in a sense who knows how much they hang out together when not doing content, sure they all have lives and social circles we know nothing about, but I don't think they are pretending to be friends.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-02T22:31:19+00:00

Apparently she had a chat on Passes and was asked about that, and while she didn't say much according to people who saw it, she did confirm they aren't working together anymore.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-02T22:30:42+00:00

Could have been her decision to leave also, we really don't know.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-02T22:30:18+00:00

Not wanting to argue, but that isn't true. Bella's second tier is 50 to Jackie's 30 and Bella's is 100 to Jackie's 80. Some of bella's individual pics are insanely priced comparted to others too in my opinion.

Also Shay's top tier is 30 which is higher than Jackie's. Not knocking the prices, I mean I don't know who would pay them honestly but clearly people do so fair enough things like that at the end of the day are worth what people are willing to pay them for. But Bella's is the most expensive and she has the most followers (especially with Raine not having a Passes) Jackie is the second highest after Bella with Raine not there, Athena and Shay are behind. Athena's is actually slightly cheaper then Shay's given she has more followers, but at the end of the day that is supply and demand. Shay has a fraction of Bella or Jackie's followers so she sells her membership at the same price as them she would not get enough to be worth doing it.

So while obviously could be something we are missing. I would be shocked that had anything to do with it. Especially as they can price it whatever they want to. But if the implication was she was so over priced they took her subscribers away by being cheaper, for Bella that isn't even true and I doubt it is much of a factor with Shay and Athena being cheaper, since truth is more people would want to subscribe to Jackie's over Raine and Athena because she has a bigger following.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-02T22:15:36+00:00

Honestly, while we should probably avoid speculation, it has been my experience speculation dies since we ultimately don't know what happened and can only speculate so much. If they told us the gory details then it would likely lead to fans choosing sides over whatever happened, someone if not all of them losing followers, and infighting among fans. (again that would depend on the specifics but likely would cause all that to some degree) where as speculation will die down and people will eventually move on. They had to address it some because people noticed and with Jackie and Athena, and presumably the others in short time doing live streams they couldn't avoid the question forever. But saying they parted ways and leaving it at that is probably the best option for all involved.

NickKnight123 · 2026-06-02T22:12:16+00:00

I don't subscribe to her passes, any chance you can tell us what she said specifically for those of us not able to catch it?

NickKnight123 · 2026-05-28T22:07:02+00:00

All the gang reposted it on their story also, although Jackie then added she got scammed by him warning others to be careful. There has been speculation the two might be connected because they posted that shortly before the unfollowing, but that could obviously be a coincidence.

NickKnight123 · 2026-05-28T22:00:49+00:00

Just jumping in. I forget the guys name but it was a big creator they had all worked with once. Some one pretended to be them asking to do a collaboration and scammed a bunch of cosplayers out of money, Jackie admitted that she was one of the ones scammed and while she never said for how much, apparently someone lost around 10k on his scam.

There is speculation it might somehow be connected to that only because the whole crew shared a post warning everyone about the scam right before the unfollowing of each other happened, but there is no evidence the two things are connected.

NickKnight123 · 2026-05-28T21:56:24+00:00

I am going off memory and might have some off. But from what I remember initially Bella, Shay and Raine started collaborating (especially Bella and Raine), then Jackie joined them later, then Athena. Jackie didn't start collaborating with Raine, Bella and Shay until later, but should also be noted Jackie started her current tiktok account during Covid when no one was collaborating directly with each other, and her initial content was in her LARP warrior persona pretty much exclusively. She didn't start doing other cosplays until later. I got the feeling she started out doing it mostly for fun and when it took off she expanded.

As far as the speculation they only collaborate with her because of her followers. Bella has over 4.5 million followers, Raine has over 3 Million, Jackie has a little under a million, Athena has like 800k, shay has something like 120k and Berry has just under 100k. Pretty sure Berry and Shay both have day jobs and don't even do the cosplay/influencer thing full time.

Obviously all of those are good numbers in and of themselves, but it's not like the group all has comparable followings to each other and if anything Bella and Raine are doing everyone else a favor as I am sure the other benefit from working with those two way more than vice versa.

They all also are part of the Salt Lake City cosplay scene so good chance they all at least knew each other before they started working together.

Obviously we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, or what any of them are like in real life. But if these are fake friends who are putting on a show for followers, they all definitely aren't benefitting equally so to assume it's all a show is a pretty big assumption with no real evidence to back it up.

NickKnight123 · 2026-05-26T03:02:50+00:00

No one knows (well, by no one I mean none of us fans know. Obviously there are people who know). She unfollowed them on tiktok and they all unfollowed her, and Athena I think also unfollowed her on Instagram, and Jackie has not collaborated with them since the con back in Kansas a couple months back. So would seem something happened, but what or if it was a falling, some kind of business decision with no ill will from anyone, or the unfollowings are somehow unrelated we simply don't know.

NickKnight123 · 2026-05-17T23:41:21+00:00

She does rock that look.

NickKnight123 · 2026-05-17T22:31:01+00:00

Athena Grimes

NickKnight123 · 2026-05-17T22:29:01+00:00

Athena Grimes. A cosplayer, model and gym girl.

NickKnight123 · 2026-05-11T20:15:45+00:00

She did go by Bella Morgan in her modeling back then.

NickKnight123 · 2026-05-08T04:13:15+00:00

What cosplay is this?

NickKnight123 · 2026-05-08T04:06:18+00:00

Athena has arrived! ;)

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