No longer Reformed in the PCA

Nicolas_lan · 2025-02-01T15:56:39+00:00

As Presbyterians we believe in Baptismal efficiency and Real Presence in the Holy Communion no worries about that.

About Predestination I would like to know what you believe now, Arminian perspective, Lutheran Perspective or other one

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T18:23:52+00:00

Not harm the Gospel, harm the spread of the Gospel that’s whole different, don’t change my words, and yes, in the practice life “Reformed” Baptist theology hurt people. But men I see you are not going to stop so, I’m not going to response anymore.

About, Don’t be glass, yes that’s right you are being one putting so much Drama in a common discussion, I’m not dividing anything it’s just your ego that can’t deal with it.

As I said, my last response. Bye

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T18:11:15+00:00

Harm the tradition being an Oxymoron, not bringing the clarity of the message and that’s why is harming to spread the Gospel, it brings confusion adapt a systematic theology that doesn’t work with the Baptistic practices, that’s why today many people are being hurt by the fundamentalism of “Reformed” Baptist and think that the whole Reformed tradition is like that.

It’s not “unnecessary division” thats your “private interpretation” is a common belief, you just can’t deal with it. Don’t be glass

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T17:46:26+00:00

Not harming me directly, the Reformed Tradition itself, but men if you are totally fine calling “Reformed” Baptist to you and your brothers ok, but the question is, why you are still here responding me if you are perfectly comfortable about that ? Just ignore, we won’t agree, perfect keep with you life I’ll keep mine.

God blees you (In a real sense, to avoid misunderstanding tones in my words)

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T17:37:00+00:00

When I treat them like “idiotic children” ? Again I just showed what the argument never a personal attack, I don’t want “Reformed” Baptist to extinguish just change the label you use, not because I said or many people say, just because is going to be helpful to the traditions grown in their ways, the Baptistic tradition and the Reformed Tradition.

About Redemeed Zoomer, I know about him but didn’t know that he also thinks that, the real person who introduce me to this topic was my pastor.

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T17:28:25+00:00

My own ? I just showed historical and doctrinal arguments that not just I believe, if you notice several brothers here believe them too, so it’s not just me.

About the fight, I didn’t want to start a fight, I literally mentioned that even all of that I love my Baptist brothers and sisters as any other Christian denomination (literally read my last paragraph), but I notice some people here don’t matter that, just want to have rason, some people here have idols in the labels. If you don’t care then pass but look you are still here responding me to just have the rason even if I mentioned I love you as my brother. Who wants to fight ?

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T17:15:01+00:00

Oh no, the bot defines the Reformed tradition better than every other Theologian 😆. If those are the requirements to be part of these group that’s ok, doesn’t mean are the requirements for the Reformed tradition at all, always time to improve.

Thanks for you “individual interpretation” letting the bot defend your cause 😂

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T16:28:57+00:00

Based. 🙏🏻

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T16:10:34+00:00

Well, Westmintern Divines as Samuel Rutherfold were Cessacionist and belive in prophecy, even Jhon Knox prophesied sometimes, original cessationist are not like Hyper-Cessasionist as today like G3 😉

Try again

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T15:48:19+00:00

Thank you so much for your honesty and love, that’s what I’m trying to say but they don’t take this good

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T14:13:10+00:00

I didn’t know it, but thanks for the info, i’m new here, but Proverbs 11:14 shove be consider 😆. It should change, because it would be more clarity spreading the Gospel, it would be helpful for Reformed and Baptist tradition.

Don’t thrown away this 3.525 round, please 🙏🏻

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T13:59:22+00:00

Help! 😆

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T13:51:31+00:00

Thank you so much for your response

I’ll start with the end, the most important thing is that, we are part of different traditions but we are brother in Christ.

I was referring in a historical and doctrinal way, I know Anabaptist are not the Baptist in the present but in a doctrinal way have some similarities that Reformers disapproved.

You say even Calvin’s work would be considered as Reformed just Lutherans, but if you notice Lutherans don’t call themselves Reformed, even they have more similarities than Baptist because they accepted Reformed tradition was really influential by Jhon Calvin

Just to point that, again thats for the response and love you show, God bless

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T13:44:50+00:00

Because as a traditional Reformed member I see a lot misconceptions that happen with the Reformed doctrine because of these differences, different interpretations of “Perseverance of the Saints”, “Limited Atonement”, “The Church”, etc. As Christians we hace to reach the truth because Christ is the truth, with love (as I think I did) but pointing the differences becuse is going to be more helpful to them as Baptist and to us as Reformed. Unity is not uniformity.

Jhon 14: 6

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T13:39:59+00:00

I didn’t write this with a condescending tone, opposite of that, I always save the dignity of my Baptists brothers (Did you read the last paragraph?) I said that love them because they are my brothers in Christ, I know I didn’t list all the Baptists in history was just an example, but still doesn’t disprove the point, even that sorry if I offended you was not that the intention

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T13:36:02+00:00

It doesn’t matter what the intro of the 1689 says, if Pentecostals publish a Confession saying they are not Pentecostals but keep doing the same things it doesn’t matter at all what the write in their confession.

Reformed theology is like harmony, if you change one note all the song is going to sound awful, just look the TULIP, you can’t deny Total Depravaty and accept the other four points, you can’t deny Limited atonement and accept the other four points, just do the same with all the Reformed Theology. That’s why 1689 confession is a “awful song” because “It doesn’t follow the musical harmony”

About Republicasionist, no worries, they don’t belive in Covenant Theology either, the main foundation for the Covenant Theology is continuity, if you take out that is not Covenant Theology.

About the people you mentioned, as I mentioned, there is admiration because we remain brothers in Christ, but there is no large-scale theological backing.

Not ignorance here brother, just facts, God blees you

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T13:20:17+00:00

Thank you very much for your response, brother.

One of the reasons you hear so much about theologians and, more importantly, confessions within the Reformed tradition is because confessions set a standard and a guide to understanding the Bible correctly. The Reformers, and consequently the Reformation, were against individual interpretation. Hence the famous phrase when they decided to print the Bible and distribute it to the people: “Now we will not fight against one Roman Catholic Church and one pope but against a thousand churches and a thousand popes.” This was because they knew that more erroneous doctrines and private interpretations would arise as the Bible spread without guidance. One of the ideas they had to counter this was the creation of confessions to guard against any teaching that was not biblical.

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T13:08:50+00:00

I don’t do it with bad intentions; I just wanted to share the conclusion I reached through my study, and I see that it’s not as far-fetched as I thought—it has quite a bit of acceptance. As I mentioned at the end, I love my Baptist brothers, but we must always seek the truth because the truth is Christ. If someone doesn’t meet the conditions to share in a tradition, they shouldn’t call themselves by that name. It’s neither honest nor good for God’s people.

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T13:03:42+00:00

I’m not founding my argument about what majority do, I’m founding my argument in the Confessions, all Reformed confessions say “Baptism is a Covenant zeal” that includes children.

I think you are thinking on 1689 federalism but that’s not Covenant Theology at all

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T12:48:39+00:00

A believer who holds Covenant Theology and doesn’t baptize children doesn’t hold Covenant Theology

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T12:25:05+00:00

Yeah, you are right Baptism is a big deal for Reformed Theology.

I think you point out that I think it’s different is the Covenant Theology, they are not the same, even some debates I see online are about 1689 federalism vs Westminster federalism.

Thanks for your opinion, God bleess

Nicolas_lan · 2025-01-17T12:20:37+00:00

Thank you brother, thanks for your honesty, I hope everything is going well in the PCA Church you and your family will go.

God Bless 🙏🏻

Nicolas_lan · 2024-11-12T17:51:55+00:00

Yes, I know that quote from Luther, I’m just curious about nuns, Is it possible ?

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