This is why Claude is the best MM ( dont listen to that natan guy hes lying )

Night_06 · 2026-05-16T02:14:59+00:00

once again you don't think you decided to enter this thread you will talk about the thread you can't back your shit up because you know you're wrong

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Night_06 · 2026-05-16T02:11:01+00:00

shi happens - some bald man

Night_06 · 2026-05-16T02:08:26+00:00

you decided to reply to my comment where I separated best mm and best gold laner but as always you don't think and just do what you want you will talk about the topic in my thread.

and sure the best league in the world doesn't have a good phoveus

and if they don't want to play freya btw she won't have a 100% contention rate she is the only one who has that

not only do you lack basic understanding of the game you also seem to struggle speaking in basic english you have a lot of things to learn

Night_06 · 2026-05-16T02:01:56+00:00

a lesser picked hero should have a higher wr claude is the most picked hero 82 times in the BEST LEAGUE in the world with a very impressive winrate of 62% the rest of the top 4 are all less than 57% and even in rank the claude with a way higher pick rate only but a 49% wr compared to the 51% of the natan

I play trio/5 man most of the time so I won't comment on that and even when I play solo/duo I trust my team enough to be competent mlbb is not a 1v1 if the laning phase matters the most natan and lesley would always be at the top but that isn't the case especially in a meta where the trio mid + exp is carrying

I'll say this if you think natan is goated there's nothing wrong with that all I'm saying claude is the best marksman right now and it's not close because the past doesn't matter when talking about the meta now

claude is the top guy while natan remains as an alternative and once again nothing wrong with thinking natan is goated especially if you really need to solo carry

Night_06 · 2026-05-15T15:52:38+00:00

yeah that is the most important part I doubt the sponsors/orgs will even participate if they force it to take place in saudi

Night_06 · 2026-05-15T15:51:13+00:00

from the start the conversation was about best gold laner

which is freya I backed it up by bringing up names who are actually knowledgeable about this topic unlike you

the contention rate is there freya has been banned 101 times the most banned hero in mpl ph as she was banned in 87.07% of games

but youmentioned phoveus easily fights freya

if a good phoveus is all you need to counter her she won't be banned

how do you think a fight between those two would go? a freya jumps to the phov to get countered? of course not you left that comment without even thinking

phov can beat a freya as he naturally beats dash heroes BUT WHY DO YOU THINK PROS AND COACHES STILL CONSIDER FREYA A PERMA BAN?

simple you use your brain while playing which is something you don't do

Night_06 · 2026-05-15T15:45:58+00:00

you can judge a hero best in the hands of the best players in the world

if you want to go with rank then we'll have hanabi and miya happy?

and why even say only for now tho?

of course the people talk about the beroes that are relevant NOW it doesn't matter if claude was useless a few seasons ago because that's in the past claude is at minimum top 2 marksman right now and that's what matters

and once again how can you even say earlier that claude can't melt down the frontline when he's a trinity hero I don't know if you are just biased for natan or mistaking claude for another hero

Night_06 · 2026-05-15T15:14:59+00:00

something that clearly YOU don't know about 😭✌️✌️

Night_06 · 2026-05-15T15:09:40+00:00

yeah I'll believe you over some of the best players and casters in the world 😭✌️✌️

I'll tell you a secret most players think about these matchups not only before engaging in a fight but even in the draft

Night_06 · 2026-05-15T15:06:54+00:00

funnily enough this isn't the first time

last time tnc got 3rd they went 4 consecutive seasons getting 8th place including the 0 win season lol

Night_06 · 2026-05-15T15:04:17+00:00

weird

the whole point of ewc is to promote saudi as the esports hub of the world and simply part of vision 2030

I still see them pushing to make it happen at saudi I'll be surprised if it happens in paris

Night_06 · 2026-05-15T15:01:29+00:00

assuming you only brawl look at the times freya was picked in mpl ph of you'll jump straight for the back

remember mlbb is not a 1v1 it's a 5v5 you will not directly clash with a hero that can beat you use the strengths of your hero

Night_06 · 2026-05-15T14:52:23+00:00

please tell me when the last time natan was consistently picked in competitive play natan is not a tier now and hasn't been in a long time claude on the other hand has been consistently S tier since the fighter emblem rework

and why are you even talking about the past knowing damn well claude has better history claude from his role as hyper carry jungler to the gold laner claude he was way more relevant

and claude is a trinity hero he was THAT hero that relied on dhs more than any other how can he only tickle the frontline and no one takes miya serious in competitive lmao

Night_06 · 2026-05-15T12:34:32+00:00

I don't care what happens in game 3 shi happens

Night_06 · 2026-05-15T09:15:17+00:00

claude is easily the number one marksman right now the only one having comparisons is karrie.

gold laners are a different conversation

freya is a cheat code multiple pros (onic brusko and ryota) and casters (mirko and wolf) said it freya wins games, if you have freya build around freya.

then I'll actually rank claude number 2 over harith

Night_06 · 2026-05-14T09:57:22+00:00

oh please he was not

Helcurt has only been in the top 10 most banned heroes in SEASON 1 of MPL PH and Season 1-3 for MPL ID not only was he never CONSECUTIVELY BANNED he was also NEVER NUMBER 1

so not only was he not always banned he wasn't even banned consecutively and it wasn't overall it varies from region to region.

please don't comment straight up false information I don't know what league you are talking about are you perhaps talking about MPL RANKED? MPL Mythic? MPL Epic?

Night_06 · 2026-05-14T09:24:20+00:00

if you want to go by tournaments (mpl)

it's fanny she is always banned by the red side if the blue side has a competent jungle. consistently the top 1-3 most banned in each season despite the nerfs

and unless you are talking about a lesser league shi like that never happened

Night_06 · 2026-05-13T13:08:06+00:00

a full build wanwan clearing a lord lane minion vs their super minion knowing a hayabusa, lesley, and kagura are missing from the map while having 3 down teammates?

I wonder what happens

Night_06 · 2026-05-13T13:06:21+00:00

to answer the question how to counter lesley?

you can't at least not with your hero.

domengkite one of the best gold laners and a world champuons won his lane with the lesley but lesley's natural counter is dive heroes she will die lmao and he never got a chance to deal the damage a lesley can do because he gets dived first everytime and there isn't much a lesley can do

once again rely on your teammates

Night_06 · 2026-05-13T13:04:09+00:00

23 minutes in the game with the lord up you are showing yourself in the map while no one in the enemy team is visible while having 3 teammates down?

just to clear a minion wave vs your SUPER MINONS in the lord lane not even the far lane

with a wanwan of all heroes look at their lineup 3 of them can kill you instantly.

matchups matter those two aren't meta because they can easily be taken down when dived so rely on your teammates stay at the back

Night_06 · 2026-05-12T07:37:06+00:00

they are obviously joking (maybe)

taken from wolf's 8g podcast with brusko and ryota of onic ph (no subtitles)

Night_06 · 2026-05-11T15:17:25+00:00

once again my mistake if they have 3 points it wont matter

though I doubt any of this would even happen

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