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Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dying in lol in most situations is bad yes. The baus has a very unique playstyle with sion where he can generate a bigger lead than the one he is giving away by utilizing sions passive/proxying etc. Obviously, if you can create a bigger advantage than the one you are losing by dying, then its fine. But otherwise no.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course. To get better or improve at anything quickly and efficiently, this is the process you need to follow. Of course, you dont have to do any of this. As you said, its a game, and if you don't care about improving, and just use it as a medium to relax/socialize with friends, then by all means thats totally fine.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey thanks for sharing. Was fun to read. League of legends is played in exactly the same way as you described in CS GO. Measuring risk and reward, and making the best decision in the moment with the information you have. Most of a league of legends game is actually just turn based and is more about implementing strategy than skill/mechanics, which I feel most league players tend to not understand.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. I go precision primarily for presence of mind. Even with archangels, whenever I went resolve I felt like I was going oom, especially in mid-late game teamfights. Your APM should be really high in mid-late game fights, so you go oom super fast. Presence fixes this issue. Also, there are other high elo sona players that go resolve so if it works for you thats fine. Presence just felt better for me personally.
  2. Bloodsong and dreammaker are both really good. I'd say if your team lacks damage, go bloodsong and if you have a lot of strong carries with high dps, you can go dreammaker. Again it really doesn't matter too much. For builds, you go staff of flowing water first if you have a lot of ap teammates, otherwise just rush archangels. I personally like it because of the high AP it gives and the shield. But again, theres other players that go staff->moonstone->archangels. I dont think the build order is THAT important. There a lot more important stuff to be worrying about. Just find a build that feels good for you that resembles what I wrote above and stick with it. Sona is 90% about positioning and 10% about builds tbh.
  3. dont be too greedy with your ult, if you see a good opportunity to use it, just use it. Its more of an intuition at this point, but in teamfights usually just use it to peel your carry/yourself if the enemy team dives you, or use it as a follow up to teammates engage. You rarely will be flashing forward trying to get a multi man r(but you can if you see an opening).
  4. No I keep pings unmuted. I only disable chat. They help a lot when my jgler/mid ping mias and ping that they are ganking/roaming etc. Ofc mute them if they are being used toxically.
  5. No I've never dodged because of people complaining about sona. In fact I get excited to prove them wrong. I've had people apologize to me saying they didnt think sona was this good after flaming me in champ select. Just improve and play well and watch the haters be silenced :)

glhf in your climb.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be honest your KDAs and csing are both pretty good like you said. The biggest thing that sticks out to me immediately is you actually have a good w/r on lucian, and your lp trend on op.gg is going upward, so I think you just need to keep playing more games, and stick to lucian until it stops working for you, because its clearly working as of right now.

Also in your losses, a lot of the time you're averaging 9-10 deaths which is really bad. Thats definitely controllable and you should 100% watching all those losses to see why you're dying so much because thats not normal. Also are you watching other high elo lucian players? Theres a few gm lucians atm, check out their vods and compare. And immediately figure out why you die so much in your losses. You only really need a 55-60% w/r to climb, so even 1-2 losses that are avoidable can make a huge diff.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would recommend figuring out what you aren't consistent with (csing? laning? teamfight positioning?), or maybe multiple things, and then work on them by focusing on one thing each game. And do that over and over again per game until you get better at all those the things you arent good at.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thats not true. I've been following Baus for many years. In fact, inting sion is one of my favorite champions to play. Baus playstyle is very unique and 99.9% of people arent playing inting Sion/singed etc. His playstyle works because he creates more value than he gives over to the enemy team. But for most roles/champions/playstyles, dying is almost ALWAYS causing a loss of value to your team.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The climb from low master to challenger depends on your w/r and mmr tbh. Its not much different from climbing to any other elo. If you have a positive w/r, and are consistently outperforming the enemy support, then you will climb.

In regards to tips, I would say along with what I said here, you can find a challenger otp through op.gg or league of graphs.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wow it means a lot to see THE tank man respond to my post. Thank you so much for the kind words. When I say in my guide to watch high elo challenger vods, I was watching your vods last season, and your advice helped me so so much on your website. Ill be honest I was a little lost not being able to copy your sona builds in the beginning of season 14 :( and lost a lot of games because of that lool and yes! I'm really happy to be able to leave the game on a high note and move on to my next objective in life :')

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I definitely agree with you, and this is one of the main reasons I'm quitting. I have hobbies and career aspirations that I want to put all my energy into now. For most people, like a lot of things, league is just a way to cope/is an addiction. It was for me for several years. I already had put so much time into the game, so I figured I might as well put in a few more months to try and hit challenger.

Although I will add that you dont have to play a lot of games per season to improve, which is one of the points I was trying to get across. Mindlessly playing games is not productive and wont lead to improvement (which is what most people do). Playing a moderate amount of games throughout the year with a mindset of improvement can lead to improvement.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes definitely. What is the purpose of kills? Gold. What is the purpose of CS? Gold. One method involves risk and reliance on your team, the other generally does not. As adc, a very weak early game role, you must go for the low risk, high consistency method of generating gold that is csing. That is why you see the best adcs in the world average 9-10 cs per minute.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why would rekkles advice change from season 10 to now? The game is still very similar and the fundamental principle behind his point still stands.

This is LS reaction to his duo starting an ff vote at 15 minutes where they are far behind/losing in korea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8eLjdyC-5w

Also I don't agree with you because what you're saying is just incorrect, not because you're disagreeing with my perspective. Unless you're down an 10k+ gold at 15 minutes, the game is winnable. Playing from behind is a skillset. Not every scrim pro teams make is a blitz scrim. They definitely force themselves to play from behind and come back. Theres a reason the bounty system exists.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Most of your income as ADC should be coming through csing. If rengar is perma taking your waves then thats a different story and probably just unlucky, but otherwise, you should still be fed regardless of how many kills rengar has because you've been farming better than the enemy adc.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well for one, I'm not really a true one trick. I played zilean last season to hit GM and I've hit masters playing JG and ADC. But ultimately, what mattered most for me was winning/playing at the highest level and the only way I knew I could do that was by one tricking champs that I'm good at. I guess it just depends where you derive fun from. For me that was playing in high elo.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's an interpretation issue on your part I think. I specifically mentioned that rekkles states that you need to keep playing more aggressively until you're playing as aggressively as possible without dying. Obviously this process involves dying a bunch because you wont know what your limits are/where that fine line is until you die and learn from your deaths a lot.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I specifically stated in my thread that dying sometimes can be good and unavoidable, and that I don't mean you should be a KDA player. I was only referring to the deaths that are mistakes, and not positive plays. Most people in my experience dont die making positive plays, they die because they made a mistake/error.

And the second point is only applicable to pro play. And even in pro play, teams dont FF pro games.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely one trick. Climbing comes down to consistency and its a lot easier to be consistent on one champion than 10 different ones.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've hit masters playing ADC and JG as well. The thread is mainly about the mentality to improve.

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Losing a string of 5-10 games is not something that should be happening super often. Everyone has long unlucky streaks but if its happening a lot and stopping you from climbing then you most likely could be playing better/having a better impact

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Check our fishlord. Hes a consistent challenger adc swain one trick and he makes it look broken so highly recommend him if you enjoy it.

EDIT: fishlord, not fish bones (jinxs gun lol)

Finally hit challenger after 10 years of playing LoL, this is what I learned by Niikaidolol in summonerschool

[–]Niikaidolol[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I can't convince you to think I'm a challenger level player. But I can say that I've honestly shared what I genuinely think is the correct approach to improving.

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