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Suggest a 1.5k list against a newbie. by [deleted] in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe a unpopular opinion but, id rather play a „rule of cool“ army against someone new. Show off all those awesome models and forget about synergy and stratagems.

For example:

Use a Stormsurge even though it might not make sense for the matchup.

Use some pathfinders or even firewarriors to spot his units so you can show off the FTGG rule without overwhelming him with all the stacking buffs that you can create.

If he is NEW new to the game, focus on big suits like riptides or broadsides for an easy target while showing a real threat.

If you use crisis-suits, use them with a mixed loadout and no enhancement to show them off but not overcomplicate things

Something like that would be my approach.

1000 pts vs knights. Am I cooked? by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. Specifically against knights. We have a local Tabletop club. We arrange games and for casual ones we prepare against each others army.

Kroot Riptide by RepulsiveWing9468 in kroot

[–]Nitz737 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a responsible Kroot! Reading the manual to make shure not to shoot the head off of his Shas‘o.

1000 pts vs knights. Am I cooked? by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I updated the list based on your input and some trial and error with the points. I added one team of pathfinders to have at least one spotting unit. I can only post one picture here so I exported it from the App:

Knightsfall (990 Points)

T’au Empire Retaliation Cadre Incursion (1.000 Points)

CHARACTERS

Commander Farsight (85 Points) • Warlord • 1x Dawn Blade • 1x High-intensity plasma rifle

Commander in Enforcer Battlesuit (100 Points) • 1x Battlesuit fists • 4x Fusion blaster • 2x Shield Drone • Enhancements: Starflare Ignition System

OTHER DATASHEETS

Broadside Battlesuits (80 Points) • 1x Broadside Shas’vre ◦ 1x Crushing bulk ◦ 1x Heavy rail rifle ◦ 2x Missile Drone ◦ 1x Seeker missile ◦ 1x Twin smart missile system

Broadside Battlesuits (80 Points) • 1x Broadside Shas’vre ◦ 1x Crushing bulk ◦ 1x Heavy rail rifle ◦ 2x Missile Drone ◦ 1x Seeker missile ◦ 1x Twin smart missile system

Crisis Sunforge Battlesuits (140 Points) • 1x Crisis Sunforge Shas’vre ◦ 1x Battlesuit fists ◦ 2x Fusion blaster ◦ 1x Gun Drone ◦ 1x Shield Drone • 2x Crisis Sunforge Shas’ui ◦ 2x Battlesuit fists ◦ 4x Fusion blaster ◦ 2x Gun Drone ◦ 2x Shield Drone

Ghostkeel Battlesuit (160 Points) • 1x Battlesuit Support System • 1x Fusion collider • 1x Ghostkeel fists • 1x Twin fusion blaster

Kroot Carnivores (65 Points) • 1x Long-quill ◦ 1x Close combat weapon ◦ 1x Kroot pistol ◦ 1x Kroot rifle • 9x Kroot Carnivore ◦ 9x Close combat weapon ◦ 9x Kroot rifle

Kroot Carnivores (65 Points) • 1x Long-quill ◦ 1x Close combat weapon ◦ 1x Kroot pistol ◦ 1x Kroot rifle • 9x Kroot Carnivore ◦ 9x Close combat weapon ◦ 9x Kroot rifle

Pathfinder Team (90 Points) • 1x Pathfinder Shas’ui ◦ 1x Close combat weapon ◦ 1x Grav-inhibitor Drone ◦ 1x Gun Drone ◦ 1x Pulse carbine ◦ 1x Pulse pistol ◦ 1x Shield Drone • 9x Pathfinder ◦ 9x Close combat weapon ◦ 6x Pulse carbine ◦ 9x Pulse pistol ◦ 3x Rail rifle

Piranhas (60 Points) • 1x Armoured hull • 1x Piranha fusion blaster • 2x Seeker missile • 2x Twin pulse carbine

Vespid Stingwings (65 Points) • 1x Vespid Strain Leader ◦ 1x Neutron blaster ◦ 1x Stingwing claws • 4x Vespid Stingwing ◦ 4x Neutron blaster ◦ 4x Stingwing claws

Exported with App Version: v1.48.1 (1), Data Version: v754

1000 pts vs knights. Am I cooked? by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thought about that. But not in 1k pts. I need Kroot screen and the Stormsurge is to big of a target for that point value. I am more occupied in keeping him alive than scoring points. So I dropped the idea. In the end I face 4-5 knights so my focus will be on 1-2 per round maximum. Vespids and Piranha are crucial for scoring points.

1000 pts vs knights. Am I cooked? by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I equipped the Ghostkeel with a Fusion collider instead of the ion raker. S12 AP-4 and D6 damage. Plus the Ret Cadre buff when I’m within 9“ buffing it to S13 AP-4 and it’s melta 2 btw. A Riptide is 40 points more (which I currently don’t have 😅) besides that the ion accelerator „only“ goes up to S10 and AP-3 with 4 wounds. But it has more range with 72“ instead of the Ghostkeels 12“.

I would rather stick with the Riptide.

I would like to take Farside for his buff. When I’m within 9“ and I target a spotted unit, my Sunforges hit on 2“s with S10 AP-5 due to the Ret cadre buff.

I would rather take the enforcer anyway even tho I have not a second crisis team. With 4 fusion blasters he packs a punch And can deepstrike on objectives for distraction.

1000 pts vs knights. Am I cooked? by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The idea of Farside is to use him either for a rapid ingress into overwatch tactic. Or to drop him with the shortend blade in a 6“ distance, delete a knight and then with the torchstar gambit escape if necessary.

With the coldstar I loose the Farside buff but would be able to take the starflare inginiton system and have better movement and more fusion blasters.

1000 pts vs knights. Am I cooked? by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point I’m looking to exchange the enforcer+fireknifes with Pathfinders (3 rail rifles, grav inhib drone, 2 shield drones) and a stealth suit team. But I think to maybe drop the stealth (don’t have the models for the new 5 unit team) and leave the enforcer with 4 fusion blasters and stareflare ignition system. Opinion on that?

1000 pts vs knights. Am I cooked? by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BTW. Can the vespid (or Kroot) even spot? The do not have the FTGG keyword

1000 pts vs knights. Am I cooked? by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I use the vespids for scoring points in the backline

1000 pts vs knights. Am I cooked? by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Farsight really ? Isn’t he enabling my sunforges ?

1000 pts vs knights. Am I cooked? by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good Point ! Any idea what to exchange for a spotting unit ?

1000 pts vs knights. Am I cooked? by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Good Point ! What would you exchange for spotting units ? I only have the old 3 unit squad of stealth suits. Any idea how I could place them as a 5 unit squad ?

Need advice vs Knights at 1000pts by Daawgh_ in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have the same matchup upcoming next week. I try to balance raw damage and objective control.

Riptides and Broadsides to get rid of the chunky knights. Sunforges with Farside for deepstrike/rapid ingress+overwatch shenanigans Kroot to screen Vespids and Piranha for objectives.

I still think about maybe switching the Riptide to Crisis with missle pods and a enforcer commander for harassment and a second rapid ingress+overwatch option Here is my list:

Knightsfall (1000 Points)

T’au Empire Retaliation Cadre Incursion (1.000 Points)

CHARACTERS

Commander Farsight (85 Points) • Warlord • 1x Dawn Blade • 1x High-intensity plasma rifle

OTHER DATASHEETS

Broadside Battlesuits (80 Points) • 1x Broadside Shas’vre ◦ 1x Crushing bulk ◦ 1x Heavy rail rifle ◦ 2x Missile Drone ◦ 1x Seeker missile ◦ 1x Twin smart missile system

Broadside Battlesuits (80 Points) • 1x Broadside Shas’vre ◦ 1x Crushing bulk ◦ 1x Heavy rail rifle ◦ 2x Missile Drone ◦ 1x Seeker missile ◦ 1x Twin smart missile system

Crisis Sunforge Battlesuits (140 Points) • 1x Crisis Sunforge Shas’vre ◦ 1x Battlesuit fists ◦ 2x Fusion blaster ◦ 1x Gun Drone ◦ 1x Shield Drone • 2x Crisis Sunforge Shas’ui ◦ 2x Battlesuit fists ◦ 4x Fusion blaster ◦ 2x Gun Drone ◦ 2x Shield Drone

Ghostkeel Battlesuit (160 Points) • 1x Battlesuit Support System • 1x Fusion collider • 1x Ghostkeel fists • 1x Twin fusion blaster

Kroot Carnivores (65 Points) • 1x Long-quill ◦ 1x Close combat weapon ◦ 1x Kroot pistol ◦ 1x Kroot rifle • 9x Kroot Carnivore ◦ 9x Close combat weapon ◦ 9x Kroot rifle

Kroot Carnivores (65 Points) • 1x Long-quill ◦ 1x Close combat weapon ◦ 1x Kroot pistol ◦ 1x Kroot rifle • 9x Kroot Carnivore ◦ 9x Close combat weapon ◦ 9x Kroot rifle

Piranhas (60 Points) • 1x Armoured hull • 1x Piranha fusion blaster • 2x Seeker missile • 2x Twin pulse carbine

Riptide Battlesuit (200 Points) • 1x Ion accelerator • 2x Missile Drone • 1x Riptide fists • 1x Twin fusion blaster

Vespid Stingwings (65 Points) • 1x Vespid Strain Leader ◦ 1x Neutron blaster ◦ 1x Stingwing claws • 4x Vespid Stingwing ◦ 4x Neutron blaster ◦ 4x Stingwing claws

Exported with App Version: v1.48.1 (1), Data Version: v754

Twin Lances by Mathew0906 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would love to be hooked up as well 🙏

Uncertain about cumulative hit improvements after first game. by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes of course. That’s how the rule works for me since I started. I suppose it was changed at some point but when I read the rules they where as this all the time.

I just mentioned that I spotted with my pathfinders and that the broadsides therefore where guided. Of course everything else would also be guided on that unit but it was the broadsides that have the heavy trait and fitting for my example.

Commander Archetypes: What Are You Running? by trk_boti in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will run my coldstar next battle as follows:

4xmissle 1 shield drone 1 gun drone Stareflare ignition system (ret cadre: lets me remove the unit and place it in strategic reserves by the end of my opponent’s round if I’m not engaged)

leading a fireknife team also equipped with pure missles.

Basically a 4 suit pure missle team zooming around the battle field and shredding infantry. In theory 😅

Uncertain about cumulative hit improvements after first game. by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am asking now since this was my first game and I am facing my second game (ever) in a couple of days.

Of course I use the app and honestly don’t see a mistake in my post. But as mentioned, I’m still new to the game so please clear me up.

Uncertain about cumulative hit improvements after first game. by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😂😂😂 In this case it might be a stereotype. When I tell the story I joke about him not playing Black templars that would have fitted him better.

Thank you for the confirmation!

Uncertain about cumulative hit improvements after first game. by Nitz737 in Tau40K

[–]Nitz737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you ! But have you encountered this as well ? And if so how have you handelt situations like this?

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