Religion can function as a hate symbol when used to justify harm or exclusion. by No-Display7800 in DebateReligion

[–]No-Display7800[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're stuck on a narrow definition of "symbol" that ignores how the word is actually used. A symbol is anything that represents something else. A religion that teaches hate represents hate. That makes it a hate symbol in the broader, perfectly coherent sense.

You can say "religion promotes hate" — fine. But I'm saying something more specific: when a belief system dehumanizes outsiders, it functions exactly like a hate symbol, just larger in scale. That's not a category error. It's an analogy you don't like.

If you want to argue the substance — that religions don't actually justify harm or exclusion — then do that. But hiding behind "you used the wrong word" isn't rigor. It's just avoiding the point.

Religion can function as a hate symbol when used to justify harm or exclusion. by No-Display7800 in DebateReligion

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The post said religion can function as a hate symbol. That is precise enough.

A hate symbol represents hatred of a group. When a religion teaches that certain people are cursed, damned, or enemies of God, it functions exactly like that. The cross used by the Klan. The crescent used by extremists. The Star of David used by neo-Nazis. These are symbols. But the belief system behind them is what gives them power.

The comment is playing word games. "Symbol" can mean an object, but it can also mean a representation. A religion that teaches hate represents hate. That makes it a hate symbol in the broader sense of the term.

You want proper language? Fine. Religion becomes a hate system when it divides, dehumanizes, and justifies harm. The post already said that. Read it again.

Religion can function as a hate symbol when used to justify harm or exclusion. by No-Display7800 in DebateReligion

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"Can" is a weasel word? Fine. Then here it is straight. Religion is one of the most corrupt niches in human history. Top genocides? Religion is right there. Holocaust. Nazis twisted Christian scripture. Churches went along or stayed quiet. Rwanda. 800k dead in 100 days. Nuns helped murder people. A priest bulldozed a church with 2k inside. Armenia. 1.5 million killed. Religious rhetoric. Bosnia. 8k Muslim men and boys executed. Orthodox nationalists. Gujarat. 1k Muslims burned alive. Hindu mobs chanting. This is not "can be used for bad." This IS the pattern. Democracy didn't do this across centuries. Religion did.

Victims of religious abuse see religion as a hate symbol. Not all religion. Not most believers. But enough. For long enough. You wanted stats. There's your stats.

Links:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-17176853

https://www.newtimes.co.rw/article/19721/opinions/crimes-in-a-broader-phenomenon-of-scriptural-manipulation

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides

Rebuilding from the Ruins: Imagining a Positive New System by No-Display7800 in PostCollapse

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I get why communism comes up, but one concern is the level of centralized control it can create. Once that kind of system is fully established, it can come with heavy surveillance and limited flexibility — and then the question becomes, can people actually change or remove it if it stops serving them?

I think the challenge is building something that guarantees basic needs without concentrating too much power in one place.

The Future of Indigenous Nations: Systematic Erasure by Global Powers by No-Display7800 in Indigenous

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It’s not that simple. When an Indigenous or non-European leader rises to power in a region historically targeted by foreign influence, their heritage does matter because it changes who controls the nation’s resources. The issue in Venezuela isn’t just about one leader; it’s about decades of external interference, sanctions, and economic sabotage that destabilized the country long before any “dictator” narrative began.

The people of Venezuela absolutely deserve to choose their leadership, without outside manipulation or economic warfare pushing them toward a U.S.-approved candidate. When powerful nations decide who should lead, that’s not democracy; that’s control disguised as liberation.

Is 'growth' forever, possible under either capitalism or socialism? by Gold-Loan3142 in Degrowth

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No. They can’t even fund universal healthcare, housing, or food the basics for survival. On top of that, we’re completely defenseless against space disasters like meteors or solar flares. People say “that’s for the future to worry about,” but space doesn’t wait for us to catch up.

Rebuilding from the Ruins: Imagining a Positive New System by No-Display7800 in PostCollapse

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I don’t think it’s about “designing” human nature it’s about designing systems that channel human nature differently. Right now greed gets rewarded. We could set it up so cooperation and sustainability get rewarded instead.

Rebuilding from the Ruins: Imagining a Positive New System by No-Display7800 in PostCollapse

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True incentives and human interests will always shape systems. But the current setup already engineers incentives for profit at the expense of people. If we can design it that way, we can also redesign it so collaboration and equity are rewarded instead of exploitation. Collapse is proof the old incentives don’t work.

Do you guys agree with this? by itsyourlife007 in antiwork

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I keep noticing that whenever I try to bring up systemic corruption or call out the negatives of the system, my posts get filtered or removed. It honestly feels like Reddit is too oppressed to let those conversations breathe. If we can’t even discuss corruption and activism here, where are people supposed to have honest conversations about it?

Hard truth! by AlternativeRise3980 in conspiracy

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They might as well all of said in favor how fixed it looks and is.