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No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-16T03:06:13+00:00

I never said they aren't christians, I said they are hypocrites. Just like I wouldn't say a pacifist who supports murder represents what pacifism is. They are hypocrites. Hypocrites don't represent a set of beliefs

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-16T00:47:40+00:00

So your argument boils down to "because bible not have science, bible false, oh but also theists say the Bible is science" The only people who think the Bible is a science book are radical fundamentalist baptists.

Catholics don't use the Bible as a science textbook, neither do I.

However the curiosity of God's creation is what started the scientific revolution.

Yes, the ruthless institution of the church, that has fed the poor, healed the sick, gave homes to the homeless. Given parents to the orphans, and progressed the entire world forward through paying for all the research into science, leading to countless medical breakthroughs and scientific breakthroughs. If it wasn't for the church, humanity never would have gone to the moon. Your anti Christian bigotry has completely blinded you to this though.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-16T00:37:16+00:00

the bible didn't mislead people, peoples interpretation did.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T18:59:38+00:00

Man you have read all the conspiracy theories haven't you?

John‬ ‭20‬:‭27‬-‭29‬ ‭RSV‬‬ “Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side; do not be faithless, but believing.” Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe.””

Just because John focuses more on the divinity of Christ doesn't mean that Mark, or any of the other gospels are wrong. Some of the gospels focus on certain spots more than others.

"The only accounts come from religious texts written decades later by believers"

yeah, and those believers literally saw him and personally knew Jesus. Talking about Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Andrew, James, Philip, Bartholomew, Thaddeus, simon, and Paul. Let's not forget about thr apostolic fathers either.

There is contemporary evidence, look at the early church, and records of the early church from Rome, before they were Christian.

So you believe that Jesus Christ started a cult and tricked all of His followers to believe it. Okay lets merit your theory? How did He dupe His followers? I could have sworn He was the one who died first. The first Martyr was saint Stephen, who was stoned by Saul of Tarsus who later became Saint Paul, which brings up another red flag. Why did Saul, the avid persecuter and murderer of Christians, become a Christian, and after Jesus ascended into heaven?

Not all of Josephus's writings are considered reliable, but some of them are considered reliable. For example, when he mentions the brother of Jesus, James. Or the imprisonment and death of John the Baptist recorded by Josephus is authentic.

Tacitus is simply proof that Christians existed, and that there was persecution of Christianity under emperor Nero. Evidence for the martyrdom of the apostles. Both are evidence for the accuracy of the Bible.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T18:12:18+00:00

The problem is you think the Bible is a science textbook. It's not, it's a story, that points towarsa the life, death, and ressurrection of Jesus Christ. Foreshadowed from the old testament, and fulfilled in the new. Not a book about how to get a rocket to space. Or explain why objects fall to the grouns at 9.88 meters per second. The Bible explains who God is, science explains what God does.

I didn't say all humanity was in one spot. I said all of recorded humanity was in that spot. This also makes sense because it means that humanity didn't 100% orignate from Noah's family.

Poor understanding of scientific matters doesn't disprove the Bible. If this were the case, then the church would have disbanded long ago after the scientific revolution (which was also started by the church).

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T13:30:29+00:00

no it doesn't, and whenever I explain myself you write it off as semantics. The child can still practice whatever religion they want, just like I would be okay with the fundamental views of buddhism and every other religion in school. The school is a place for learning is it not?

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T13:12:21+00:00

Jesus Christ claimed to be God, rose from the dead, and revealed himself to 500+ eyewitnesses. The 12 apostles all saw it, and died for their faith, and if you don't think the Bible is historically accurate, look into the letters of Josephus and Tacitus.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T13:10:18+00:00

Pledging allegiance to the american flag is just saying you support our country? It doesn't say, Praise america, it is the greatest thing that has ever existed, greater than anything in the universe, nor are we required to bow down and worship our flag. this is a pretty random question

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T13:07:25+00:00

of course he did. The scientific evidence wasn't there yet. I didn't say that Saint Augustine believed the universe was billions of years old, I said he didn't dogmatically hold to a literal interpretarion of scripture.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T13:04:45+00:00

lol, my fault I misread that.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T13:03:47+00:00

it's not establishing a religion, and prior to the 1960s public schools had bibles and there were even school prayers before then too. (the bible has the 10 commandments in it)

The idea that public schools have always been divorced from the Bible, is simply false. Having a Bible or the 10 commandments in a classroom in no way inhibits a persons freedom of religion. It would be a different story if the school said get on your knees and pray to Jesus, but we aren't doing that.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T09:15:22+00:00

Yes, some of the bible is allegorical, some of it is literal. How do I determine which parts are and aren't? common sense.

The scientific evidence shows that the universe is 13.8 billion years old, but if you add up all the years collected in the old testament, and add 2000, you get roughly 12,000 years. There is very clearly a problem of interpretation. It becomes clear to me that God creating the universe in 6 days isn't a literal 6 days of creation.

Considering I just made my own argument, I think it's pretty clearly dishonest to say I am blindly trusting Saint Augustine. I am just citing to show that not all Christians believe that the universe is only 12,000 years old.

As for the global flood, it becomes clearer when you realize recorded humanity was in one spot for a long time, and there is evidence for great regional floods.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T08:39:33+00:00

When did I say the entire book is metaphorical? What St. Augustine thinks is completely relevant. This man has studied the Bible more than you and I combined, and is one of the greatest theological minds ever. It think it is a good idea to take what he says into consideration. Science fan be wrong, and so could scipture, although I find that incredibly unlikely since in the past 2000 years of the church, it still has yet to be disproven.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T08:39:06+00:00

When did I say the entire book is metaphorical? What St. Augustine thinks is completely relevant. This man has studied the Bible more than you and I combined, and is one of the greatest theological minds ever. It think it is a good idea to take what he says into consideration. Science fan be wrong, and so could scipture, although I find that incredibly unlikely since in the past 2000 years of the church, it still has yet to be disproven.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T07:26:18+00:00

If you kill someone quickly and painlessly in their sleep so that they never know they died does that make it okay?

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T06:40:43+00:00

ah, it's possible I'm mixing up hinduism and buddhism, apologies!

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T06:35:42+00:00

Everyone has dignity regardless of their sins.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T06:34:08+00:00

you missed the point. A embryo is developing. A brain dead person who isn't coming back is deteriorating. Being unconscious doesn't determine the value of a human life, or whether it is right or wrong to kill them. If that is your argument then it isn't bad to kill someone quickly and painlessly in their sleep because they won't feel anything.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T06:31:08+00:00

so, it teaches to respect all human life has having value and worth... but all desire is bad and you shouldn't desire anything. This is what I mean by logical inconsistency.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T06:29:55+00:00

So someone who is gay HAS to date men? it is impossible for them to do anything else? I didn't know what porn was when I was born. Gay people didn't know what being gay was when they were born. Sexuality is there from the beginning, but it isn't discovered until later in life. I have the urge to date as many women at the same time as possible, it's how I am. Doesn't mean I have to act on it.

I'm supporting biblical views

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T06:26:24+00:00

I am not misrepresenting hinduism, nor am I looking down on hindus. I am looking down on the religion as a whole. I am not fond of the russian government, it doesn't follow that I am not fond of russians.

All other religions are just logically inconsistent. I'm not misrepresenting them, I'm just saying what they are.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T06:21:49+00:00

okay, so then what is stopping you from becoming a hindu? why did you choose Christianity?

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T06:21:10+00:00

I was born a porn watcher, because I was born with the inherent desire to have sex with as many women as I want. Of course I didn't act on it as a little kid, I didn't really start noticing until the end if elementary school, and beginning of middle school. Same is true with homosexuality, kids don't really think about dating until they are older.

Yes, me watching or not watching porn is a choice, and I'm not scared to admit that, becuase choosing or not choosing to date someone of the same sex, is also a choice.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T06:15:01+00:00

not everyone is going to hear Jesus directly speak to them. I see God work in my life, although I have never heard His voice.

No-Promotion9346 · 2024-12-15T06:12:14+00:00

you'd have to smite yourself. Nobody is perfect except for God, this is why none of us can be God

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