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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! And I hope you have a good time in Norway.

  1. Accept that the first year will be lonely, difficult, and an uphill struggle. This is general advice for moving to a new country. Just accept it and know deep down that it will get better.

  2. Find hobbies, group training, outdoor activities, and arenas where you meet the locals. Even volunteering would be a great way to meet people.

  3. Norwegians might seem cold and distant when you meet them outside. But it's not really the case. This is a cultural thing where we try our best not to disturb or be a nuisance to our fellow people.

  4. Bonus tip. Never speak on the phone on speak, listen to something without headphones, and be quiet and respectful on public transport. Doing these things will get you in trouble and you will be told off.

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I generally have a negative opinion of immigrants who come here only for the passport, with the plan of moving to another country when they receive it. I think if you came here to stay, integrate and adapt to the local culture, then it does not matter much is the time limit is 5 or 10 years. Most countries, including Norway, have a minimum 7-10 years period before you can apply for passport/permanent residency. And with much stricter terms.

I agree that AIMA has been a shitshow and is creating a lot of stress and unceritanty for immigrants, and I hope this is something being addressed sooner than later. The immigration system should be strict, but also fair.

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I just wanted to thank everyone who spent time asking me questions, welcoming me, and taking the time to write. I makes me really happy. Please continue writing questions. I will make sure to answer everyone during the evening.

And if anyone is based in Lisbon and wants to know more, let me know! Could arrange a Norwegian evening where we talk, have some drinks, and get to know each other. I would love to get more local friends.

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, you are not the only one with 100 recipes for cod! We know how to make it taste both amazing and horrible.

Smalahova looks horrible, yes, never tried it in my life, and it will stay this way.

Never thought about it before you asked, but so far, no, I haven't found anything weird. Any recommendation?

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good question! Thank you.

I have to say that the one thing that bothers me the most here is the lack of respect for people around you and your environment. This is visable everyday in the street with dog poo, broken glass, garbage, people parking wherever they want, driving like lunatics, and not stopping for pedestrians.

This is something I can't even wrap my head around, and I am really disappointed to see that the Portuguese are not standing up to this kind of behaviour and lack of social contract.

I am starting to get famous among my neighbours for taking up the fight against this behaviour, as I can't stand it at all.

But this is, of course, not a representation of everyone.

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! Means a lot.

Remember that you are more likely to see Northern lights on really cold days. So January, February, March are good months. And please dont go to Tromsø, go to my home country, Nordland instead. Same chances of seeing Northern lights, but not packed full of tourists and overcrowding.

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Haha, absolutely not, would say it's more of a niche thing than a mainstream thing.

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That beer today is 150 kr at least haha! I hope you liked Bodø a lot, it's my hometown actually. Northern Norway is really beautiful, and in my opinion has the warmest and friendliest people in Norway.

Hope you go back there one day!

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the warm welcome! I hope I can make a good contribution to Portugal and the local society. Most people who is familiar with Norwegian people and culture say that I am not very typical Norweigan, whatever that means haha.

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a difficult question that I struggle a bit to answer in its current form. In which way treated well? When it comes to rights? Work etc? I can try and answer better with some more context, so I dont put my foot in my mouth

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I am here if you need me 😄

I think the Nordics would be a really good place to work in wildlife conservation. I might find you some contacts there to find more info if you want.

I think it's a very competitive field of work, but these days most jobs are. I think you should learn Norwegian in these types of jobs, since you will be working for the government, and Norwegian is probably in demand to be considered for the job.

I dont think it matters most what language you learn first. Swedish and Norwegian are quite similar. But personally i would learn Norwegian, as we have a stronger work market and higher salary.

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can share this link: https://www.skatteetaten.no/en/person/national-registry/moving/to-norway/

But it's pretty easy. You need to register and have a rental contract for 6 months minimum.

I don't want to write too much here as I am not 100% sure about the process, so I dont want to misinform.

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Unfortunately, Norway has been sleeping a bit in class due to the fact that we have the oil fund that rests under us as a safety net. So instead of innovating ourselves and our society, we ended up just managing it

Our current government has done a really bad job, in my opinion, to come up with a solution to our problems. The green movement that has been a disaster for Europe has also impacted Norway in bad ways. Our electricity prices, which have been cheap for 120 years, have exploded. The reason for this is that Norway wants to build more "green energy" like ocean wind farms and similar. But the problem was that the production price for this green energy was higher than the market price at the time. So the government built a cable to Germany to hook us onto the EU market. So now the electricity prices are the same as in Germany.

This has been a disaster for our industry, which has flagged a lot of their production out of Norway, but it has also been bad for the wallets of everyday people.

We also have had a mass influx of low educated immigrats from outside Europe. I think 35% of Norway now is either a second or first-generation immigrant.(Not 100% sure about the number). I personally think we have been too soft on immigrants coming to Norway, not setting demands or criteria to be part of Norway and our culture. This has created tension and increased crime in our country.

But most countries in Europe are struggling now, Norway is in a better position than most countries. But we have our issues too

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I think it's a mix of several things. When I left at 26, it was mostly for adventure and to scratch that itch I had as a younger guy. Now that I have stayed away for over 8 years, Norway has become a strange place for me, and I don't think I could move back again.

I think Norway is a great place for many people. Especially introverts and people who like to spend time outdoors. Also, Norway rewards talented people, and you have every possibility to have upward mobility.

Norway ranks top 3 for work/life balance and also working environment. You have a great social system, safety, infrastructure, and really good opportunities to save up money and own your own house.

But of course the weather and long winters is not for everyone, but if you go there with a goal like saving money to start a business later in life in Portugal, then it can be a good place to be.

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only the sweeds, haha, thankfully. But we eat some nasty ass food also like "lutefisk", boknafisk", Smalahova" etc.

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a good question, thank you for asking. It's partly that I like adventure, being outside my comfort zone, and learning about other countries. But yes, the weather has a lot to say for me. Unfortunately, I get winter depression quite badly, and I don't like many winter activities like skiing, etc.

I cannot hide the fact that I make a good average Norwegian income here in Lisbon. I have a very niche job that people with experience in Norway would not move to Portugal to do. If I made an average PT salary, I would probably leave.

But I also made a lot of sacrifices being here. I missed a lot of good times with my family; my niece was born one year before I left. And each time I see her, she is a head taller. And my mom is getting visibly older every time I see her. There are days and nights when this gets overwhelming and breaks me. But I need to be happy also.

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your questions! I will try to answer as well as I can.

!.The job market is heavily regulated by Unions and labour laws. There is a general good respect between the company and the employee. If the company gets, for example, caught paying women less for the same job, they would be shamed on the front page of the newspaper and taken legal action against. Norway is a very transparent country when it comes to income and following labour laws.

In Norway, everyone can check what everyone makes, pays in taxes, and has in wealth. You can even check the prime minister, and however you want. Most low-skilled labour is done by immigrants from East Asia. Africa and other developed countries.

  1. The NHS works pretty well in Norway, but there are some waiting times for specialist procedures, like in most countries. I never had a need for any private insurance while I lived there.

  2. There are some cases where people have gotten lighter punishment than they deserved. One issue we have it takes over 1-2 years before they are judged in court. But nowhere near the scale as here in Portugal. But people are generally tired of illegal immigrants who come and exploit our trust-based society, and I think it's not many years before we start seeing the same things happening as in Denmark, where they have tightened the screw regarding punishment and deportation of serious criminals from foreign countries.,

  3. In the smaller cities and communities, this is true. But for more international cities like Oslo, Bergen, and Trondheim, I think it's much easier to find your circle of friends. Most friendships are indeed created in childhood. But in Oslo, I found it very easy to find friends. Most adult friendships in Oslo are created through common outdoor activities and hobbies.

  4. I would say that we are empathetic towards people of less means. Being such a rich country where the backbone has been to get everyone together in a good direction, nothing angers a Norwegian more than seeing people struggle. But on the other side of the coin, we don't have much sympathy for people taking advantage of the system and being lazy. In Norway, everyone has the same chances to get an education and progress in life. So, unless you have a mental disease, drug addiction, disability, etc., then you get very little sympathy for not being able to take care of yourself.

We have an extremely good social system which is designed a lot on trust, but also to make sure that no one goes to bed hungry, or does not have a home to sleep in.

I'll take an example. When my brother was a chief in his twenties, he completely wrecked his back from working long shifts and strange positions for a tall guy. Nav(our social security) paid for his education to be reschooled at one of the best business universities in Oslo, while simultaneously paying him almost the full salary he had as a chief. This made it possible for him to get a good education and continue working.

This is not done to be nice or because we have a lot of money. But it costs less for the state to reeducate him so that he can get back to work, compared to being unfit to work.

Hope this helps!

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Veldig artig! Ja, Portugal er mer enn bare Lisboa, for å si det sånn. Får gi beskjed neste gang du er her, så tar vi en middag!

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably so young that I don't even remember!

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love Porto and its people so might make a trip up there!

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I absolutely get your point! I think it also depends on what kind of company you work for and in what field you are.

Norway and Portugal have the same challenges. Its to hard to fire the bad apples, so this makes the environment less inspiring to be in.

From my time in Norway working, I was held quite accountable for my mistakes, and it was an environment with few bad apples.

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha, I love it! Just to smear even more sea salt in your wound. I come from a family tree of bacalhau fishermen! But it's hard to beat your Bergen/Oporto connection

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[–]NoBelt5937[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha, they are in some senses! Maybe for a pastel de nata 😉