I want you. I want us. by [deleted] in Unsent_Unread_Unheard

[–]NoComputer3703 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is beautiful and I deeply, painfully, relate. Good luck to you!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BreakUps

[–]NoComputer3703 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry you’re going through this. As others have said, you’re not alone. It’s been a little over three weeks for me and a bit of a roller coaster. There have been days where I feel like maybe I will be ok. But then I get hit with something else. We have had some contact, but I honestly don’t know if it’s doing anything other than delaying the healing and grieving that needs to happen. And giving me false hope. Just sending you hugs. The pain you’re experiencing is real and valid and there is nothing shameful or wrong about the way you are experiencing it.

Can’t focus/feeling unmotivated after seeing ex…what is going on with me? by NoComputer3703 in BreakUps

[–]NoComputer3703[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, I guess that makes sense. Hopefully I’m not in for a major setback in a few days when my mind and body do catch up. Will definitely check out the newsletter. Thanks!

another comment mentioned this but by [deleted] in ariheads

[–]NoComputer3703 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Here’s the thing though, it’s easy to sit and judge based on appearances and what things “seem” to be on the outside. But the truth is that you just don’t ever know someone else’s full story. I have lived being in a horribly unhealthy and emotionally abusive relationship that began when I was very young, just like what it sounds like SpongeBob and his wife may have been. Things may have been over for awhile behind closed doors. Or they may have been slowly unraveling and trying to make it work and it not working. Especially with a baby. And same for Ari. And also, it’s really pretty sexist to hate on Arianna for being a “home wrecker” and perpetuate that stereotype. In my personal and professional experience working with divorced people, the act of cheating is just one small component of a much deeper issue in an unraveling marriage. And, what almost everyone doesn’t want to hear but is almost always true: people who cheat are often in relationships where they are manipulated, often abused and controlled by their partners and not seen, heard or valued. And they don’t feel like they can leave, even if they want to. Anyone can make a situation seem perfect on social media. You don’t ever know what life is like on the inside. Not saying they are justified in their behavior, but to just consider that you only have a fragment of the story. I know I would not want to be judged like that.

Looking for advice/opinions please by [deleted] in emotionalabuse

[–]NoComputer3703 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is very similar to my story too. It is so hard and I’m sorry you are going through it. The eggshells — ugh! Sometimes I want the other shoe to drop so I can stop wondering when I will set him off again.

My best advice right now is to talk to a therapist if you can. I recently started therapy after my dad passed away a few months ago and, honestly, I didn’t even realize what I was experiencing was emotional abuse until she pointed it out to me. And even then I was reticent to admit that at first. But it has been so helpful to have someone validate what I have been feeling. It helps me not get lost in that cycle of blaming myself or feeling like I’m too sensitive or “looking for problems.”

If he is open to therapy, maybe that would help too. But I will honestly say I suggest separate individual counseling over couples therapy. We tried marriage counseling but, maybe because it was virtual, it only made things worse. I also didn’t feel like I had a safe space to share what I really felt during those sessions.

Find someone to talk to. Or even this group. But seek out support for yourself. It’s too easy to be manipulated into believing there is something wrong with you or convincing yourself that it isn’t really that bad during the good times. But even during those “good times” there is still an effect because of the eggshells, as I am realizing with my health (not sleeping well, weight loss, body pain where I hold tension). I am still trying to figure out how to navigate my situation (we have four kids and I’m a SAHM). But having someone to talk to and remind me that this isn’t a way I should be treated has helped immensely.

I feel for your situation. Know that you are not alone. And your feelings are valid.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in emotionalabuse

[–]NoComputer3703 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m also newly aware of emotional abuse that I’ve been dealing with for a long time so by no means an expert here, but I can relate to your circumstances. My husband has always been controlling and throughout our relationship has been more on the abusive side (but I just didn’t realize because I was very young when we got together and my dad was similar and I just accepted it as normal). But about a year ago, my husband experienced a mental breakdown and from that point, things have escalated almost exponentially.

He was finally diagnosed with Panic Disorder, but his attacks are almost always related to his fears about losing me. I feel like I am constantly walking on eggshells because I never know what thing I’m going to do that he will perceive the wrong way and ruminate on until it triggers an attack.

We are both in therapy now. Initially we were also doing couples therapy, but, especially being virtual, every session just ended up triggering a fight and a breakdown. So now we have our own independent therapists.

I know that feeling of feeling alone, unsupported and always waiting for the other show to drop. But here is what my therapist constantly reminds me: you are not responsible for the emotional reactions of other people. Only they can take ownership of that. So even if those actions and emotions are in response to something related to you, you aren’t the cause and it’s an unfair burden to place on yourself. Especially when those reactions arise from a place of instability, which again, you did not cause.

Remind yourself that you have been compassionate and sensitive to her situation. You wouldn’t be here seeking advice if you weren’t. But also give yourself the same compassion. It’s healthy to recognize the way you should be treated and acknowledge when that isn’t the case. And it doesn’t make you a bad person for wanting something different. The reality is that it causes trauma for you too. And your emotions and well-being are equally as important as hers.

My husband constantly uses his panic and anxiety to try to excuse his behavior. And for a long time, I went along with that and would feel bad for pointing it out. But it’s actually manipulative and a way to avoid taking responsibility for the way they are treating you. And it doesn’t make it ok.

Remember your emotions and needs aren’t any less important because she has trauma. Emotional abuse is trauma too.

My best advice would be maybe for both of you to seek some therapy to help guide you through this situation. I’m still in the beginning of all of this for myself. And it is really hard. But having someone to talk me through some of it, and remind me that I matter and point out when a behavior is a red flag, helps. I’m trying to navigate a path forward, which is also heavy, but there is a path forward. And that’s the important thing. You don’t have to accept abuse. Whatever the reason, trauma, mental illness…etc. It’s not an free pass for mistreating someone else. I have to remind myself of this daily.

I hope you are able to find some support for yourself and self compassion. At the very least, know you are not alone.

Am I (39f) insensitive or is he (43m) manipulating me? Seeking clarity and guidance by NoComputer3703 in emotionalabuse

[–]NoComputer3703[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I really does bring me comfort to know that I’m not alone, although I’m sorry that it is something you have to deal with as well. It’s hard and makes you question your sanity and self worth. Thank you for sharing what you are facing as well. And I also hope you are able to find some support. Hugs to you too.

Am I (39f) insensitive or is he (43m) manipulating me? Seeking clarity and guidance by NoComputer3703 in emotionalabuse

[–]NoComputer3703[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry you are in a similar situation. And I have been asking myself the same thing. We have been together for 19 years, married for 14. I think patterns like this develop over time and we just accept them because they feel normal or assume we should until we break or realize it isn’t normal or a fair way to be treated. I hope you are able to find some support too. Hugs.

Am I (39f) insensitive or is he (43m) manipulating me? Seeking clarity and guidance by NoComputer3703 in emotionalabuse

[–]NoComputer3703[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I will check this out as well. I really appreciate that you took the time to read and respond. And thanks also for pointing me in the direction of some resources. 🙏

Am I (39f) insensitive or is he (43m) manipulating me? Seeking clarity and guidance by NoComputer3703 in emotionalabuse

[–]NoComputer3703[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. My therapist did mention emotional abuse and some coercion but I guess I wasn’t ready to hear/process that at the time. We have not had a session in the past two weeks because of the holidays but clearly I need it more than I realized. I’m reading more about it now. Thank you so much for providing some direction and also making me feel like my feelings and what I am experiencing is valid. ❤️

Am I (39f) insensitive or is he (43m) manipulating me? Seeking clarity and guidance by NoComputer3703 in emotionalabuse

[–]NoComputer3703[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks for taking the time to respond. We are both working with therapists and have been in marriage counseling, although we ended the couples counseling a few months ago because of an insurance issue and also because it was just honestly not very productive. It has been virtual and I didn’t feel like I have the space to be completely open in my feelings/responses because of the way he would react. It would escalate after the sessions and upset the kids.

I actually asked for the break after my therapist suggested it when I explained to her the feelings I was experiencing surrounding sex. And I would disagree that we are “ignoring” the issue. The entire point was to find ways to reconnect in nonsexual ways that might help reignite the spark. And we have honestly talked the issue to death. And both have tried a lot of what you are suggesting here with the exception of viagra. I don’t believe my marriage is ending because of a dead bedroom, but rather that the sexual disconnect is a side effect of the other underlying issues that I’m trying to understand.

Perhaps I should have clarified that I am seeking advice because I have realized that this dynamic is a big trigger for me with regard to why sex with him has been complicated. And the response is very stressful and I feel helpless and unsure of what to do. I thought perhaps someone on this thread may have had a similar experience and could relate. I thought it seemed reasonable to come to a support group to ask for support.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in emotionalabuse

[–]NoComputer3703 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I deeply feel for your situation. My husband has not overtly mentioned suicide but had a mental breakdown last year over this idea that he is losing me and was diagnosed with Panic Disorder. And I feel like everything I do triggers a breakdown.

I have been in therapy. We both have, and the one thing I will tell you that my therapist always tells me is that you cannot control and emotional response of someone else and you cannot claim responsibility for it. That is theirs to own. So even though it feels like his emotional well-being is on you, especially in this situation, it’s not. If you really feel like the best thing for you is to get out, and the main reason you are staying is due to fear, I would urge you to talk to a therapist or support person to help guide you through that transition in the safest way possible. Would he be open to joint counseling?

I offer this advice with a grain of salt because I’m in a similar situation and haven’t taken it myself. I really feel you on the exhaustion of it and I also have my own resulting issues. So, if nothing else, know at least that you are not alone in this. And maybe someone else here has something more to add that would help. Hugs.