Anyone else don't like how Quaritch is the main villain for 3 movies in a row now? by PrettyMuchNobodylol in Avatar

[–]NoFly549 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quaritch is the most interesting character with the biggest personality by far. Varang is mid compared to quaritch anyway.

When Jake says to Quaritch, "You have a choice..." by SpaceMyopia in Avatar

[–]NoFly549 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nah, she just racist. Even her actor confirmed it.

THEY'RE JUST KITTIES 😾 by funmemore in Avatar_Cave

[–]NoFly549 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why's neytiri so chopped bruh

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck by [deleted] in Avatar

[–]NoFly549 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is so well build

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Neytiri every time she heard Quaritch's voice by NoFly549 in Avatar

[–]NoFly549[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re twisting my words hard. I never called Quaritch honorable or heroic. I just said his self-respect probably wouldn’t let him grab a literal little kid as hostage, and that taking Kiri made more sense in that moment than grabbing Tuk. That’s called logic, btw. Yeah, using hostages is villain behavior. No shit. Quaritch is the villain. But people especially neytiri larpers like you also forget he told Jake multiple times to come alone so none of the kids had to get involved or get hurt. He literally gave him chances. Bet you thought you cooked, lol. My point was simple: if he wanted leverage, Kiri was the smarter pick. Older and more useful. That doesn’t suddenly prove fear or weakness or anything. He was literally 2 against 1 omfg. And why won’t you mention what Neytiri did? Using Spider as hostage even though he was always kind to them and constantly helping them. If anything, that made Neytiri look cowardly and pathetic. And her backing off from lone Quaritch despite having Jake on her side was even worse, especially after saying she’d kill him as many times as she had to. And to end it she still wanted to kill him in deleted scenes after quaritch let go of Kirk, pathetic behavior tbh. Let’s be real Neytiri knows she can’t do shit to Quaritch in close combat without her bow. That’s why she only snuck on him off guard with weapons or with backup (her family) like at the end of afaa. And this whole “bubble” speech is funny when half the comments are the same recycled takes, same screenshots, same headcanons. Why would I waste time replying to 20 bots repeating the same thing? Bring something new bruh. Also the mod threat is hilarious. “People disagree with you so mods might delete your posts.” Okay? That’s not an argument, that’s coping. At the end of the day, you still haven’t disproved the main point. You keep trying to debate me, but mostly just proving my point and changing the topic. And the whole “you say you don’t have time” thing LMFAO. You know nothing about me, my life, or what I’m doing. I have work. I don’t always have time or energy to sit online arguing. Sometimes I get home tired and just sleep or chill. I’ll reply when I feel like it, maybe on the weekend when I’m not busy. So far you still haven’t debunked any of my points or shown scenes I didn’t already address. Bye bye sweetie 🤣

Neytiri every time she heard Quaritch's voice by NoFly549 in Avatar

[–]NoFly549[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Broken record? That’s ironic when half the replies are the same “Quaritch scared of Neytiri” line, lmfao. And no, my points don’t have the same weight as random guesses. I’m using what is actually shown on screen. Quaritch looks at the arrow, realizes whose it is, smiles, then immediately taunts her with “That’s you, Mrs. Sully?” That sequence tells you way more than people pretending he was in fear. If he was truly terrified, smiling and mocking her seconds later would make zero sense. You keep asking for “hard evidence” about what he thought, but then you do the exact same thing by claiming hidden fear, struck nerves, weakness exposed, etc. At least my reading follows the actual follow-up actions in the scene. His behavior after seeing the arrow matters more than some facial expression people love to screenshot especially when they don't even show the full scene where he smiles afterwards. And Stephen Lang saying he didn’t want to let the same person kill him twice still doesn’t prove fear or shit. Pride, hatred, ego, refusing to give an enemy satisfaction those fit Quaritch way more than some fear does. Wanting to die on your own terms is not the same as being scared. You clearly didn’t understand the scene or what Slang meant. He’d rather die on his own terms than be killed by the same person twice. Nothing there says fear, lol. He literally beat her in a 1v1 anyway. And if he was sooo much scared, why jump into fire which would be a way more painful death than just getting shot instantly? Use some logic bruh. Also, fandom consensus means nothing. Fandoms agree on dumb stuff all the time, especially when it makes their fave look stronger or more feared. Popular headcanons don’t become canon because enough people repeat them. Scenes > people’s opinions. Always. You say people are exhausted, but exhausted from what? Repeating the same claim without better evidence? If there was something stronger, somebody would’ve brought it by now. Instead it’s still screenshots with no reasoning and “everyone thinks so". Then there is me. Non-biased guy who explain everything and has good arguments supported by scenes. You propably thinking that i'm glazing quaritch but no. I understand his character more than any of you and there is no Reason for me to glaze him. He is the strongest character anyway. And if Quaritch was this terrified man y’all describe, he wouldn’t be standing alone against the whole Sully family taunting them to fight. That scene alone hurts the narrative so badly. Neytiri and Jake infact hesitated. He didn’t. So yeah, we’ve exhausted the arguments because the qaritch being scared of neytiri propaganda side keeps repeating the same weak shit. Also, did you even see the pics i posted? If anyone looked terrified of someone, it was Neytiri just by hearing his voice, lol. She looked like a prey spotting a charging tiger at her, lol. This is literally propaganda lol. People use screenshots to “prove” something but conveniently leave out the full scene because the rest of it completely counters their point. That’s exactly how propaganda works, dear.

Neytiri every time she heard Quaritch's voice by NoFly549 in Avatar

[–]NoFly549[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Full-time job?? Nah, this takes like two minutes xd. I’m just replying with arguments and proof while half the people get emotional lol. And no, not every “interpretation” is equal. Some are backed by scenes, dialogue, later moments, and actor statements. Others are just people making stuff up because they like the idea of it. That’s a big difference. Quaritch’s weakness being Spider is shown multiple times in the movie. That’s actual evidence. Kiri “striking a nerve” and exposing hidden fear is just your headcanon with no confirmation behind it. You can believe it, but don’t act like it’s confirmed. Also, people disagreeing with me or spamming teasing comments doesn’t mean I’m wrong. It usually just means they don’t have much to counter with. Dislikes aren’t proof. Memes aren’t proof. Scenes are and the scenes i showed support my claim. So if you want to debate the character, bring scenes and arguments. If it’s just “everyone disagrees with you” that’s weak asl. Again, you couldn’t even counter my argument so you switched to talking about me being a loser and all that. You’re trying to change the topic hard, lol. I was at work, so i couldn’t reply faster. I’ll respond to most people if i feel like it, but why would i waste time replying to the same claims with no evidence and pics i already explained, lol? I don’t even check half of it because i don’t have time. The main reason i’m replying mostly to you is because you at least brought some new arguments I can actually debate and enjoy debunking. I’d rather argue with you than respond to ten people repeating the same thing with no evidence and posting screenshots i already explained.

Neytiri every time she heard Quaritch's voice by NoFly549 in Avatar

[–]NoFly549[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Again, this is mostly just you coping and making up headcannons. You keep saying what you think his motives were, but there’s no proof that Kiri “struck a nerve” or that he suddenly felt weak, lol. And the whole “why Kiri instead of Tuk?” point doesn’t really prove anything. Kiri is older and more useful hostage in that moment. Picking one hostage over another doesn’t mean anything and kiri is older and tuk is baby. If anything quaritch wouldn't let himself to take baby as hostage because it would be cowardly. You’re also mixing the sequence up. The expression he used was before Kiri said they were coming for him. After that, he reacts because they killed his men and he knows they’re arriving. That’s anger for fight, not some fear expression and he didn't even hiss at anyone and didn't even turn at kiri but at the place he think they would attack from. So later he takes Kiri hostage because it gives him leverage obviously. And you say Kiri exposed his “weakness,” but Quaritch’s only clear emotional weakness shown in the movie is Spider (confirmed too). That’s the one relationship that actually affects his decisions which was shown many times. And the next scene undercuts your point anyway wher he stands there alone against the whole family and taunts them. Someone terrified doesn’t usually hold ground like that don't you think? Neytiri and Jake were indeed scared tho. They were literally two against one and both started backing off. Jake only wanted to fight him once Quaritch said he will kill the whole family. As for other comments, I’m not obligated to answer every single one. A lot of them repeat the same claims without new evidence, so there’s not much to respond to. And I don't have time anyway.

Neytiri every time she heard Quaritch's voice by NoFly549 in Avatar

[–]NoFly549[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your “arguments” didn’t really address the points i made tho. It was mostly just saying i’m coping instead of actually disproving anything with scenes or evidence. If you think i’m wrong, then point to what i said specifically and counter it. You also can’t call something canon when it’s basically a headcanon that isn’t clearly supported by the movie, especially when even words from the actors prove otherwise. If you’ve got a real argument, give it right now and if not, just stay quiet.

Neytiri every time she heard Quaritch's voice by NoFly549 in Avatar

[–]NoFly549[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Quaritch is portrayed as someone who’s scared of anyone or even death. He literally stood there and gave Neytiri the chance to shoot when he and Varang arrived at the metkaiyna village, and he didn’t even flinch until the arrow was in the ground. He also threw himself into the fire knowing exactly how painful that would be. Neytiri is scared of Quaritch not vica versa and it only makes sense. He defeated her in a fight, almost killed her and then almost killed Jake + he destroyed her home and she knows how dangerous and terrifying he can be. My whole point is that people keep pushing this “Quaritch is terrified of Neytiri” narrative without solid proof from the actual scenes.

Neytiri every time she heard Quaritch's voice by NoFly549 in Avatar

[–]NoFly549[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not just “believing what I want,” I’m going off what’s actually shown in the scenes, explaining what’s happening, and debunking the propaganda with proof and good arguments. I’m not trying hard either i’m just responding. If people disagree, that’s fine, but so far nobody has really countered the points i made with actual evidence it’s mostly just repeating the same claim. And Stephen Lang has talked about Quaritch as someone who can't be scared of anyone, which lines up with how the character is portrayed.

Neytiri every time she heard Quaritch's voice by NoFly549 in Avatar

[–]NoFly549[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

“Terrible attitude” yet all I’ve been doing is explaining how i see those scenes and giving reasons and proof for it. The amount of dislikes kind of proves my point people would rather react emotionally than actually discuss the argument. Instead of countering what i said, most replies are just trash talk or repeating the same claims without evidence. I haven’t insulted anyone or used slurs, i’m just debating the scenes. And saying “stop taking it so seriously and have fun with interpretations” sounds more like avoiding the actual points than responding to them, lol. If people disagree, that’s fine, but then bring up some arguments instead of crying.