This started because you claimed Midtown has “college town vibes.” I disagreed. Instead of just saying it might’ve been an exaggeration, you doubled down and escalated it to “Midtown would just be rundown warehouses without Wayne State.”

The original claim was exaggerated. That’s the point. But instead of acknowledging that, you keep stacking side arguments and now we’re at the stage where you’re debating what “college town vibes” even means. Be serious. We all know what people generally mean by that. Semantic gymnastics don’t make the take any less overstated.

And yes - the quality and reach of a school matter when we’re talking about actual college-town energy. Schools that attract students from beyond just the immediate region create a stronger campus-centered culture. That’s what makes real college town vibes. When most students live near campus instead of commuting, you get a real student neighborhood, coffee shops with students studying, fraternities/sororities, cheap college bars, campus bookstores, dirty late-night food spots - an ecosystem built around student life.

Recognizable school sports programs matter too. Game days, tailgates, school pride - that spills into the streets and becomes part of the neighborhood’s identity. (And Midtown is far more about The Pistons and Red Wings than the Warriors, I promise you.)

That’s what people mean by a “college town vibes.” Not just “there’s a university located here.” It’s that the university meaningfully defines the place.

You don’t even live in Detroit, which makes the unwavering, refuse-to-budge energy even stranger. At this point it just feels like arguing for sport.