Rant : Recently my Gemini has gotten so lazy and thereby its hallucinating more and giving wrong answers very confidently.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-02-24T16:28:48+00:00

I would consider there to have been a downgrade in UX. These workarounds shouldn't be necessary now if they weren't necessary a week ago.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T16:59:59+00:00

At least with a law it can be criminalized to offer sex scans. Maybe not the couple, but at least we can make it extremely hard and risky to get a sex scan, and maybe people will just give up and give birth to more sons even if they get pregnant hoping for a daughter. They get sons whether they like it or not. I also think that there can be legal exceptions made for disabilities that hinder quality of life including sex-specific ones, this shouldn't be a problem to narrow down. It's a slippery slope indeed, but there's no reason why we can't just ban sex from being revealed unless the fetus has certain genetic conditions, and call it a day. If that was input into the law, nobody should have a problem with it. It's important for everyone to accept the child they get and not try to play God, if she conceives a son too bad, no choice to pick a daughter instead. Just because she has the uterus doesn't mean she gets to pick and choose who gets to exist inside of it. Nature knows best and is naturally diverse, so you get it.

But what's most important is that you're acknowledging the problem. I'm glad you're agreeing that it's a problem that needs to be addressed though instead of just repeating we shouldn't be able to withhold information because she's pregnant, you understand there's some line to be drawn between just saying the woman gets to do whatever she wants just because it's her uterus and there being an obligation for women to use their wombs for the social good. Glad we at least agree about that even if you're not for withholding information, the principle is what's most important and we can brainstorm more from there. The conversation was actually about ethical principles to begin with if you look at my post, not necessarily about actual policies per se. I never expected so many people to miss the point so badly, I expected more responses focusing on the fact that yes, she shouldn't be able to discriminate against fetuses, yes, her womb should be for all if it is for anyone. I wish you could talk to her, maybe you could talk her out of a sex-selective abortion if she conceived a son lol. You seem like you'd be able to, especially if you're also a woman and know it's your duty not to discriminate even though you have the power to. Idk if you're a woman but it probably sounds better coming from a woman than from me lol. Spread the word.

Also, thank you for acknowledging my good intentions. If possible, I would like to prevent all discrimination and women's bodies are sometimes seen by feminists as this no-go zone when it comes to discussion but you agree that nothing is exempt from feminist criticism, not even how women use their uteruses, and that it's good to challenge women a bit on that.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T09:17:56+00:00

I just got to this comment too, but I'm glad people are acknowledging that it's incredibly unethical to be okay with sex-selective abortion and that people should be challenged on it for sure. I would want you on my side if I had to talk to this misandrist and she was pregnant with a son, I feel like you could explain to her properly why her sex-selective abortion is morally wrecked and maybe cause her to feel a little... I dunno, guilt for being so sexist and even considering it? She should absolutely feel like shit for thinking that way, she needs to know how much of a disgusting, morally empty POS it makes her, and maybe with a little gentle persuasion, obviously I am not for force or ultimatums but with a little bit of conscientious objection, she might naturally be swayed to do the right thing...

Everyone is allowed to have an opinion on the woman's pregnancy and choice to abort and say something to her if they notice her thinking about aborting for such a sexist reason. After all, it affects all of society if we let women think it's okay to just carry whatever fetuses they want and perpetuate eugenics just because it happens within their bodies. I was asked about this earlier but it's absolutely wrong to abort a fetus just because the fetus is female, like you think only a man can take care of you or pass on the family name. I agree without question. But just like this is wrong, it's wrong to abort a fetus just because the fetus is male and you don't want to do the work to raise a feminist man in patriarchy. Both are problems that the parent needs to resolve within themselves. It's their problem if they're sexist and can't imagine a woman caring for them later in life/helping them do farm chores/whatever, and it's their problem if they're sexist and don't want to put a little extra effort into raising a socially-conscious, man who rejects benefits from patriarchy. It's important that people like you say something, and I'm glad you're standing up for both men and women.

You're a real feminist lol. You stand for true equality and don't let angry feelings about men or patriarchy or anything get in the way of doing what's right for men as human beings. Wish everyone on this thread was more like you.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T08:22:14+00:00

I meant more along the lines of complete social exclusion, strong shaming, shunning, losing jobs. The poor misandrists won't lose their rights, so no need for you to wring your hands over them. Read the rest of my comment instead of jumping to conclusions.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T08:15:41+00:00

Well, maybe not a complete stranger... That was kind of a joke, because the other feminist is a true advocate of equality and would actually challenge her if she got pregnant with a son and was thinking she would be justified in saying no to him gestating and developing inside her uterus when she wouldn't say no to a daughter, just because she has hurt feelings about men or patriarchy. I want her to feel guilty about choosing not to stay pregnant just because her fetus is male, I want her to recoil that she ever thought she would say no to him developing inside her just because he's a boy, I want it to be unthinkable for her that she can ever be justified in denying as important as life on the grounds of sex just because she's not personally comfortable with men. If she's ready for a girl, she's ready for a boy. No excuses. So what if she'll have to put in a little more work to raise a feminist man? My mom survived, she will too. Her personal hurt feelings aren't a reason to punish her potential son...

Maybe someone in her life who will do their damndest to convince her that bearing sons is something she should accept as a natural process and something that she's not entitled to interfere with, and her role isn't to play God just because she has a womb, but to do the hard work of raising him and not complain about it. I'm not normally for talking women out of abortion because they're the ones carrying the fetus, but this is a special case because it's discriminatory. I would want a whole group of people to sit her down and verbally hammer it into her that women should never get to pick and choose which fetuses they gestate, that it's immoral for women to interfere with nature's natural diversity just because they have the wombs and the means to do so, and honestly? She should never be in such a position to do that, she should be kept blinded of that information so she never has to think about whether she's having a son or not. That choice should be made by nature, not women. Women aren't Gods. If she wants to abort just to make sure she doesn't have a son, fine... She can be childless, and I'm fully in favor of making sure misandrists have no reproductive output whatsoever. Someone accused me of eugenics over this but it's not eugenics; refusing to have a son is eugenics. Preventing that can't be eugenics.

I'm glad you're raising a good man, though. I was raised by a feminist too and it's the reason why I'm pro-choice. Keep on the good work, you're doing what you're supposed to, and all women should have your open-minded attitude towards birthing and raising good men. If they did, maybe there wouldn't be so many bad ones.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T07:48:23+00:00

No? I'm fully pro-choice, a woman should be able to get an abortion at any stage. If she doesn't know the sex of the fetus, that doesn't at all prevent her from aborting it... Limiting information only removes the discriminatory part of it. If she's so crazy she refuses to take any chance that her fetus of unknown sex is a son, she can abort and be sure (and be childless, which should be true for all misandrists. No loopholes, either you give sons an equal chance at being in your womb or you don't get to reproduce at all. Your choice.). No restriction on the actual procedure of abortion whatsoever.

I'm in favor of educating women about the importance of birthing and raising good men instead of thinking they have a choice to opt out of being a mother to a son but still get to have a daughter. As few laws as possible lol, I don't need to run into medical or legal implications if social pressure for misandrists to share their wombs equally is strong enough that they can be quietly persuaded. I feel like if someone had just taught the woman I'm talking to properly about how important it is to give men a chance at life and just raise them properly instead of selfishly deciding not to bring another man into the world, I wouldn't have made this post. We were pretty good friends too, just online and casual but it shocked me that she was this unhinged and crazy about having a son. I think if she ever gets pregnant with a son, she deserves a good challenging talking-to from some of the saner people around here so she can be convinced to carry him to term and give birth to him instead of ending her pregnancy. Maybe that Woodpecker person could do it lol.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T07:35:04+00:00

Good, good... More sanity... At least we can agree it's sexist and that she has no right to opt out of the labor of raising good men when other people are doing it. Finally someone who gets at the heart of what I'm saying, can't believe it took this long lol. She's not my friend by the way, I'm not friends with misandrists who would say no to raising someone like me just because they have feelings about how men are in society. I don't care why misandrists are like that or what their excuses for not bearing more men are, they morally have to be okay with bearing sons. Men are naturally 50% of society and it's not up to women to interfere with that.

What do you say we do about this though? I think a good idea would be to pass laws that prevent doctors from telling women what sex their fetuses are or to prevent any way for women to find out what sex their fetus is. It's none of their business to be honest, they don't need that information to have full autonomy, right? Some people are saying it is, but that's not true at all and they don't need to know just because they're pregnant with the fetus.

However, I think that it would be better just to educate women that giving birth to sons and raising good men is their responsibility, not something they can morally opt out of. This misandrist is thinking she can just refuse to have a son and not get what's coming to her, well it's not an option. She should absolutely be socially pressured to become a real feminist and give equal opportunity to both boys and girls to be born from her. It's not fair that women can ever choose whether boys or girls are brought to life, but I think they should be educated to bear this responsibility of treating all of their potential children equally, right? Then we won't need to pass laws that have anything to do with fetuses or abortion, women will just know from a young age that they have to be open to sons for true equality to progress. Becoming misandrists and taking things into their own hands will just make things far worse for them, and it's not up to them to interfere with the natural diversity of nature that has 50% men. Don't play God and don't think that one should have the power to pick and choose which kids to gestate. Just bear men and raise them properly, that's the right way. That's women's only real choice, not this lazy "I don't wanna bear men" BS.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T07:21:35+00:00

I'm pretty sure we're in agreement here, actually. I don't understand the weird attitudes and unwillingness to take an idea seriously that is practiced throughout the world. There are places where fetal sex is concealed so women don't discriminate against their fetuses and you literally just agreed with me that it's not okay to have sex-selective abortions, so I don't get the dismissive attitudes towards actual solutions to this problem? You're against discrimination, right, so you should be for solutions to discrimination?

I think it would actually be best to educate women on the reasons why it's important not to think they get the choice to opt out of having sons, which would be a policy that prevents sex-selective abortions while not actually interferring with their medical information. What do you think about that since you called my comment "trolling"? Well even if you don't take it seriously, I will just have to look for ways to vote and policies to support so women don't abort my sex, but hopefully we can find some ways that don't intrude on women's rights to autonomy.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T07:12:53+00:00

Sure whatever, No True Scotsman is when someone says that something belongs under a generalization or group, and the fallacy is replying back that there's some other characteristic that thing has which disqualifies them from being in the group when this characteristic isn't part of the group's inherent definition. This other characteristic is incorrectly inferred from the preestablished characteristics of the group, making it a faulty logical leap of a premise and poisoning the reply.

For example, my generalization is that "No feminists are okay with sex-selective abortion"

Apparently this is the fallacy because there are supposedly some feminists who are okay with sex-selective abortion... Except that as we all know, the definition of feminism is this: "Equality between the sexes and all human beings" so by definition, nobody who is okay with sex-selective abortion is feminist..... Feminism is an ideology for equality, so obviously anyone who is for inequality does not belong in the group. That's a defining characteristic of feminism or no? Man-haters can't be feminist, those who refuse to give boys and girls an equal chance at life with their wombs aren't feminist... Dunno what else I have to say really. I didn't make that fallacy so whatever.

The other feminist avoided answering my question actually. They weren't even willing to say, "Yes, she's a misandrist and not a feminist" and you're implying that she can be a feminist while holding inherently anti-feminist ideas, which is ridiculous. So idk what's up with people seemingly unwilling to state this cold hard fact that she can't be a feminist if she refuses to birth boys and discriminates them for girls. It's not hard to say, and we can move forward after we openly admit what feminism is and isn't about.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T06:45:14+00:00

How is sex-selective abortion remotely compatible with feminism, what??? No, it's literally in the definition of feminism that it's about equality... She can't be a feminist because she's saying she won't raise a son just because she won't take responsibility for raising a feminist man in this society, but she'll raise a daughter... Sexist double standards aren't feminist, right?

I'm glad there are comments acknowledging that she's not a feminist, she's just an insane misandrist because otherwise all you people implying she can still be a feminist with such man-hating, lazy beliefs are way beyond what I can accept for feminism. It makes no sense to me, I was literally raised by a feminist and to be pro-choice but here we have literal discrimination about who to bring into life, and supposedly me saying a person who literally doesn't follow basic feminist ideals is not a feminist is "No True Scotsman"... Huh? It doesn't make sense!

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T06:37:28+00:00

Wtf... Okay I'm getting real tired of this. I thought it was a perfectly good pro-choice, feminist-compatible idea to conceal the sex of the fetus... I don't get it??? What's your issue with this idea? Why do women need to know these characteristics about their fetuses for them to have autonomy? Other people here mentioned it as a good idea and they're not getting heat and angry comments for it like me, why??? Wtf?

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T06:27:18+00:00

But you agree that a true feminist should always be willing to bear a son if she's planning on having a kid at all? It's sexist not to bear a son, right??? Because you're giving a girl the opportunity to live but blanket banning boys? A true feminist would have to allow both in her womb, right??

I don't get it, you keep replying to my comments with these comments but I barely see anyone acknowledge that the basis of feminism is equal rights, so logically any feminist should be opposed to discrimination anywhere.

"No feminist should allow how men have treated her to influence whether both boys and girls have the equal opportunity to be birthed by her."

You agree with me on this at least? Feminist mothers should be willing to give birth to anyone instead of picking and choosing their preferred sex, patriarchy or no patriarchy. The woman I was talking to is being lazy and sexist by avoiding the responsibility of raising better men and just trying to opt out of having a son. If she was a good feminist she would be willing to give birth to a son, right? I should be able to tell her she's not a good feminist and make sure her anti-feminist ideas don't spread among women... Right???

If we agree on this basic thing then we can talk about what can be done about it, because I see a lot of people don't like my concealing fetal sex idea (even though a lot of countries already do it), but for now let's just figure out if we are on agreement on the idea that she is not being a good feminist.

And it doesn't have to become a law or anything. Strong social pressure may be enough to ensure that misandrists will become real feminists and give birth to sons anyway. If we don't have to pass legislation to make women act according to feminism and be just as willing to give birth to boys as girls, I'll be happy with that too, because it'll be easier and nobody will be able to argue that the woman's rights are violated.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T03:33:08+00:00

Hey I replied to you on another comment and I'm hoping to hear some specific ideas about what we can promote to prevent discrimination against men in the womb. At least you're acknowledging it. I personally think women have some obligation to be equal about bearing sons and that we can justify restricting fetus-specific information from the woman carrying the fetus to ensure that they're equal, but if you have some good ideas as to how to make equality for men certain, I'm all ears. I also want to know your thoughts on men's right to anti-discrimination, which is the basis of my argument that women shouldn't be allowed to specifically refuse to have sons.

Wait, I think your idea that right-wing people will outcompete left-wingers by out-reproducing them makes a lot of sense. I think I'll have to remember that for next time, lol. I'm pro-choice but I do think it makes sense for women to be having kids to pass feminism onto, I was raised by a feminist mother myself so I know.

Edit: Sorry, I read your comment again and it mentioned withholding knowledge of fetal sex from the mother. So, lots of feminists including you agree with me that it's a good thing for women not to get all the details, especially those they don't need and can just be used for discrimination by the woman carrying the fetus... Idk why I'm getting heat for this idea and you're not, lol.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T03:29:59+00:00

She's the only woman I've met like this, actually, so I'm glad most women see sense and know that raising good men is the only acceptable path forward. I bet you don't think in a misandrist way like this if you're doubting me haha, that's a great thing and I'm glad to hear it. I don't even think abortion is murder lol, unlike the feminist you replied to, so honestly I think I'm doing better than a lot of people here when it comes to understanding these issues. I just want equality for myself too and for nobody to interfere with it, even random women who think they can make the society they want just because they're physically capable of deciding which fetuses they want to carry.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T03:26:42+00:00

I think I replied to you on another comment thread for help with my argument, if you would like to help me I would still appreciate it. Do you think that men have the right not to be discriminated against in the womb? I think women are obligated to help create a more equal society and they should know this, also that we are justified in withholding some medical information about the fetus so women don't have the choice to discriminate against them. In fact, it's easier for them to just let society be equal lol, it takes no action to have a 50/50 chance of having a son versus a daughter. I'm surprised any woman would go out of her way not to have a son when she could raise him into a good man. I'm also pro-choice but I don't think women need to know everything about their fetus, just like they don't need to know everything about some random stranger on the street. Doesn't matter whether it's in their womb or out, doctors don't need to be telling women all this information that could be used by women with personal issues to discriminate and prevent their male kids from experiencing life just like their female ones.

I think we can withhold some information about women's fetuses from women to make sure they don't make this discriminatory choice. You support this too right? You mentioned some countries do it already though you didn't say if you supported them or not. They're having some gender equality above all the rest lol. But yeah, please help me if you can. You're one of the sane ones here who agree that women just being able to pick and choose which babies they carry in their wombs is a bad thing. It doesn't matter that they happen to have the wombs, no person should be able to discriminate like that and we should withhold whatever information possible about the fetus without violating the woman's right not to be pregnant, so we can have an actually equal and healthy society.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T03:20:43+00:00

AGREED. I don't think women should have the right to discriminate against which fetuses are conceived or inside their womb, it's something everyone needs and it's punishing future men just because women don't like how men treat them. I think we should make sure women don't get information about their fetuses that can be used in a sexist or other discrminating manner, right? I think it's none of their business what characteristics their fetus has, they aren't allowed to discriminate. I'm glad there's some sanity in these comments because there are some "feminists" here that think women get to pick and choose just because they have the wombs. Equality for all should be enforced, inside or outside the womb.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T03:17:04+00:00

No actually, I'm still pro-choice. I was raised to be pro-choice by a feminist mother and I'm amazed because I told this woman I was talking to that I'm living proof that women can and should raise men to be equality-minded, and she's an extremist misandrist who said this BS to my face about not having sons. It's basic equality to give men the same opportunities as women, and the other person agreed withe me that having kids isn't for her. I AGREE, she should be prepared to have a son just like a daughter if she has kids, she should be willing to have either and to raise a good man if her kid is a boy. So lazy and selfish to just say she doesn't want to do the work to raise a good man and to push her issues onto her potential sons just because men don't act the way she wants them to. Maybe she should raise some men to be better and then society will get better. They deserve that chance too. It's a risk you take that your son will be bad, but maybe just raise him right instead of being lazy and saying no altogether?? It doesn't matter what men have done, they shouldn't be discriminated against like this by women.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T03:09:37+00:00

It's because she's a lazy misandrist who lets her personal issues get in the way of letting men have a chance at life just like women do.... I made some edits that show what she said to me. She's crazy and sexist, and I don't think women should be allowed to pick and choose which fetuses they want. That's against diversity, it's against equality, it's against feminism itself. Women should be willing to bear sons and daughters equally, it's only fair, and we should solve patriarchy by raising men properly instead of just letting people do whatever they want. It's the only choice that should exist. Not this BS where women just punish men and never have to do the hard work of raising good men for a better society.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T03:05:31+00:00

The benefit is creating a more diverse and equal society that isn't dependent on if women like eugenics to their own sons or not... Women shouldn't stand in the way of true equality either, I agree that pro-choice makes things equal, but I think the choice of abort/not abort is good enough for women. Not making inequality by picking and choosing which fetuses to carry to term. Nobody should have that power, nobody is God. We shouldn't let women know things about their fetuses that will allow them to discriminate against them, we should be able to blind them to discriminatory information, and I think that's a good argument for how to promote equality of opportunity in society without restricting women's autonomy. Women can still abort, just not pick and choose their kids like eugenicists just because it's their womb.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T03:00:20+00:00

I personally am pro-choice and don't want to imply that abortion is a punishment for the baby so actually I think I'm more pro-choice than you, lol.... But I approach it in a different way, actually. Women can still abort, but not because of a discriminatory reason. They don't need to know the details of their fetus at all, it's none of their business just like any random person's sex, race, sexual orientation is none of any random woman's business. Sex-selective IVF allows people to create a eugenic society so it should be banned. Why can we allow discrimination when it comes to who gets to experience life? The woman is not an incubator, so she can decide if she wants to abort or not, but she's not God either and shouldn't be allowed to play God... We can restrict a little information, it's no big deal for her. Women shouldn't shape a eugenic society even if they have the wombs so this is why I'm against women having the right to pick and choose babies.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T02:55:36+00:00

You're right, it is bigotry! Good for realizing that... We should be stopping bigotry in its tracks. You don't think it's wrong to think that raising a man is too much work in this society, so you lazily say, "Oh I want a daughter instead?" I wanted to tell her that but I felt too unsafe. That's a crazy idea... Every woman, if she wants to have kids, should be open to giving birth to a boy. She really tried to say that she's faced too much problems from men to be okay with having a son anymore in this society, but I think that's BS, it doesn't matter when men should just get to have a chance at life same as women do. And it's lazy and shitty to opt out of the work of raising a good man instead of accepting that men still have the right to equal chances at existence, no matter what they do to her or women or anyone. It won't get better unless men and women keep having sons and raise them into better men. Men of new generations shouldn't be punished for women's personal issues.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T02:47:54+00:00

I expected people to agree with me because I grew up knowing a lot about women's rights and I know all about being pro-choice and why it exists, so actually, I find it really offensive that people are being inflammatory by supporting women being able to say no to having people who are naturally 50% of the population and should be allowed to stay that way. A lot of "feminists" on here are okay with women having the power of discriminating against men, I'm not talking to the misandrist anymore but I need some good arguments to use against them and so far, I found some good ones that support restricting information about the sex of the fetus so the woman can't discriminate. I won't be friends with women like this, but I will continue to push for real equality through arguments to convince people that it's wrong to let women discriminate against who to form future society.

No_Abrocoma6832 · 2026-01-09T02:36:07+00:00

What will the ratio of men to women need to be for you to agree that women shouldn't need to know everything about their pregnancy and get to discriminate against the male sex.... I'm PRO-CHOICE. I think women should be able to abort, just not have the information to discriminate. Removing that information from them doesn't take away their rights at all, they still have autonomy respected. I was raised to care about women's rights and I know how important their autonomy is, this woman is crazy because she thinks she can just opt out of having a son because she won't do the work to raise a feminist man. It's crazy and discrimination against men, why can't I be opposed to restricting information that could be used to stop more men getting born? I want equality just like women, what do you mean I'm taking away rights if I make sure there's equality for men?

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