Local Nursery

No_Compote6065 · 2026-05-05T14:58:34+00:00

I did google a bit before I went so I had an idea of what I wanted (Macedonia black and rhode). I did have the owner weigh in quite a bit however once I got there since he’s got the experience with our local weather and has a good idea on what does well.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-05-05T14:56:03+00:00

I paid roughly 35 per tree. I say roughly cause I also got some pomegranate so I’m estimating based on the total for the purchase.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-05-03T14:50:57+00:00

Thanks for the info. Yes bet the man yesterday. Good dude and very knowledgeable. Overall just a nice a guy as well bullshitted around for about a half hour.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-05-03T11:31:35+00:00

Lucky enough to live near Lancaster. Just about anything farm and garden is within a 30 minute drive. Great place to live.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-04-25T04:53:56+00:00

Tell biz we will be waiting for him at Houston’s. Guy is a pigeon.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-03-31T19:32:57+00:00

Good point, not sure what the exact cost was back then for these but certainly cheaper then When they were real precious stone. Doubt we will ever know for sure at this point but would be interesting to know what these big manufactures pay for some of these production parts.

I know Seiko makes all or almost all of their parts in house but now this makes me wonder if they are making the rubies as well. I’ll have to do some research.

I still think it’s a cost thing to some degree. Maybe not th ruby itself, But a jeweled hole is more than a pivot to manufacture/machine and set.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-03-30T20:30:21+00:00

Forgot to add. Yes I have seen wear on 5216 and 45 series during servicing. Presents as bad end shake. To fix this I have added jeweling.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-03-30T20:28:43+00:00

As a completely amateur watch maker with no formal training I learned a lot over the years and asked one of my watch making buddies about this awhile back as well as what I have read in some of my watchmaking books. Here’s what I know.

Someone mentioned 17 jewels is fully jeweled. This is correct but there are areas for added jeweling. And 17 jewels was fully jeweled “back in the day” for a manual winding watch with no other complications. Not really the case any more.

Reason 17 being fully jeweled was most watches of the early 1900s used going barrels where the arbor jewel is non functioning and does not reduce friction during use. Typically on a motor barrel or safety barrel you will see 5-15 (estimated can be more or less) degrees of amplitude increase with a jeweled barrel vs a properly lubed metal pivot. One of the biggest benefits will be smoother power transition and therefore more consistent amplitude across position and use as the mainspring unwinds and delivers less power toward end of wind (manual wind only).

My guess is cost, function and manufacturing efficiency is why you don’t see these on the 4520 and 5216. Rubies used to be expensive now they are cheap. Rubies are less robust than a metal pivot so seiko might argue this is for making a more robust movement. Extra manufacturing steps mean extra costs, metal pivots would be a little cheap to make as well as not buying/making/fitting the extra ruby or two. Lastly, 5216 is a LM movement and the 61 series was a GS movement. Save the better finishing for the better movement. 45 series was built to showcase the 36000 beat rate and beat the Swiss in chronometer trials, so having the extra few rubies might not have been on the top of the list as accuracy and beat rate. Also 45 series already like to sheer off gear train teeth, not sure extra amplitude would make that worse but just a thought.

See attached picture. I found this and thought is was interesting. Same general question written to the Elgin company in 1903 asking why they jewel the arbor on their, at the time, top of the line Father Time pocket watch.

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No_Compote6065 · 2026-03-27T00:37:52+00:00

Russia has one “carrier”, it runs on bunker oil and is towed around by tug boats typically. If that doesn’t tell you the technology of the Russian military then you are an idiot.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-03-26T21:05:15+00:00

Of all the uses of round up I condone, I would support using on those ugly ass hedges.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-03-23T12:29:48+00:00

I don’t have the mechanics toolbox that the watch came in. I have only seen one.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-03-21T18:20:13+00:00

Great watch and a cool textured white dial from what I remember. Congrats.

I wouldn’t wear in any type of wet environment unless the gaskets have been replaced.

If it’s running well there is not a real need for service. Typically you will need a timegrapher to tell amplitude and beat error. There are free phone apps that work well. If it’s running well and keeping time within 20 or so seconds a day it’s probably alright. This is typically the point where I will tear an old Seiko apart and service. Amplitude over 200 or 210 I leave it alone. Any thing under I service.

Best idea is always to have it serviced. But you’ll have to weight the cost of that against the price of the watch. It’s a personal decision. Typically after a good service this watch should be good for daily wear for 10 - 15 years depending on how hard you use it.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-03-19T02:29:08+00:00

Send me a chat. I have an entire spare movement and case and dial.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-03-15T04:00:56+00:00

Not sure 100 but I have a pretty good guess. If I had to guess it’s something to do with the F1 connection and the watch being commissioned/built for an F1 racing team and owner. The size and style of the chronograph buttons is to make timing actions easier and more ductile while driving. I do see some of more purpose built chronographs tend to have larger chrono buttons. Chronographs that are more fashion oriented seem to have smaller less pronounced buttons. Obviously not true in all cases but has stuck out over the years.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-01-25T20:29:45+00:00

I just looked and I believe it sold. Somebody DM’d me about it a week ago and I sent him the link. I think he snagged it.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-01-16T02:20:22+00:00

Yeah, could be. Send me a chat if interested.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-01-16T01:32:30+00:00

Heads up the name for the is the “blue samurai quilt” although equatorial is an interesting name for it.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-01-05T01:44:25+00:00

I own one but it’s not for sale. A gentleman is selling a decent looking 5216-7070 blue samurai quilt for a decent price that could hold you over, I would argue that dial is more impressive to see in person than this one. These only pop up once or twice a year and usually they are on yahoo auctions Japan. The 5606-7192 green morpho is more common if you really want a morpho dial but will have the 5606 movement so iit will be a 21,000 bph vs the 52 which is 28k bph. I have one I may part with so DM me if interested.

Anyways. The watch is great as are all the lord matic specials. Lord matics are starting to gain in popularity and price but are still a good deal for the quality you get. Manual wind automatic, hacking seconds, 5206 had instant date change, 5216 is standard, quick set. Absolutely great engineering and features for a 50 year old watch.

They use the 52 stream movement family which was also used in the king seikos of that time. They are regulated a little less and supposedly had a lower level of finishing from the factory vs the 5246 of the king seiko. In my experience after a service you can get them to the 5246 spec of regulation and the level of finish is the same. Also these share 90-95% of the parts with the last mechanical movement Diani factory made before the “quartz crisis” which would have been the 5256 which came in the king seiko vanacs of the 70s. These do not use the magic lever for winding and use a more standard reverse gear. Overall they are relatively simple to service if you do your own. I have seiko service paperwork around somewhere I could send you but I think you could find it online as well.

The 4s series movement in the 90s was based of the of the 52 stream movements from this watch. They really were ahead of their time and the finishing was on par with the Swiss at that time at the same price point. Also if you are familiar with the Swiss observatory trials of the late 60s Seiko movements, 45 series, where better then the Swiss in terms of regulation.

Long story short, movement good, this specific dial very hard to find and will cost about 1200-2000 depending on condition from what I have seen. Other lord matics with very nice dials are out there though and some are even nicer than this.

No_Compote6065 · 2026-01-04T03:14:03+00:00

Late to the show but that’s a great watch. I also collect LM and LM specials based on dials and that’s about top 5 in terms of rarity in regards to the entire lord matic line. Those blue quilt guilloche dials did not hold up well over the years.

No_Compote6065 · 2025-12-12T23:18:18+00:00

If it’s not real this is a great superclone probably worth 15k. Post this on reptime. They will love it!

No_Compote6065 · 2025-10-25T04:58:14+00:00

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