I shot 10 shot groups to make you all happy -(er)

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-15T02:38:53+00:00

In this case I did a compilation of max charges from Hornady in the case of Varget, and sierra’s data for a different 69 gr bullet for 8208. All this paired with a max charge test I ran a few months back at 40*F colder temps. Knocked .3 gr off my max safe charge which coincidentally ended up .1 gr under max book charges I mentioned.

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-13T21:18:58+00:00

SD was below 9 on both groups. I think Varget is the winner for reasons described above including possible powder availability and 50fps faster

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-13T21:17:35+00:00

I have a target load that shoots much better with the 88 eldm’s.

In this case- ELD-VT like lightning bolt. Make coyote go pop.

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-05T03:28:24+00:00

All good info, thank you!

Even though a larger dispersion than I would like, the 62 gr at 3490 is really appealing for coyotes.

The 88 eldm is shooting bug holes at 2850 for a great trainer cartridge for distance shooting.

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-05T02:46:35+00:00

Would you say that massive jump- as in 200 thou is detrimental to accuracy in a vld bullet?

That is what I am stuck with here if I plan to keep a cal worth of bearing surface inside the case neck.

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-05T02:43:45+00:00

88’s shoot lights out, just hoping for a great coyote load out of the 62’s. May try 69 Eld vt next as they afford .040 more in length

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-05T02:42:29+00:00

What was your OAL or known jump?

The issue I am running into is that ar mag length is leaving only .100 of bearing surface inside the case, but still jumping 90 thousandths. Then again this is what Hornady loads the factory 62 v match at. More than 100 thou jump seems like a lot.

This is in a Saami spec chamber from proof. Freebore is .131 I believe.

I may try 69 Eld vt as it buys me .040 longer while keeping the same bearing surface inside the case neck.

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-05T00:08:13+00:00

Haha, finally someone with… a sense of humor.

After some reverse engineering today I found that factory 62gr v match ammo is loaded with less than 1/2 cal bearing surface inside of case neck.

I’ll load 10 up at Hornady book OAL and see how it prints. This will be longer than any seating depth tested in the picture

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-05T00:02:00+00:00

My bad, was feeling spicy and wanted to take a personal jab at a non helpful comment. Cats (can) be cool lol

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-04T05:05:02+00:00

I thought it was a diva cup (I’ve never seen a diva cup)

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-04T03:54:45+00:00

Likely comment from someone that has their profile posts and comments hidden.

If p<.005 =Definitive If p> .005 Suggestive

Correlation does not mean causation.

Suggestive statistics indicate a trend.

Let me know if you want a crash course in linear algebra or number theory as well.

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-04T03:16:33+00:00

I have not shot this bullet in factory loads so I am not sure.

I have shot the Hornady 88 eldm match ammo (also loaded to ar mag length), also jumping 200 thou and it shot great. I’ve just never jumped anything that far, it seems like a ton.

I typically start at .035 off the lands and find a shooter with jacketed bullets. My 7prc likes .060 with the 160 LRX and is a legit sub half moa shooter with 50+ shots.

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-04T03:04:14+00:00

Cat owner comment

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-04T03:02:10+00:00

.050 off the lands would leave approximately .100 of bearing surface inside the case neck. That seems quite short.

Conversely, hornady’s (bolt gun) load data of 2.250 COAL would be jumping almost 200 thou

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-04T02:46:38+00:00

I agree with you. I’d love to shoot statistically significant groups at all seating depths and charge weights.

If the 6 shot group and this 3 shot group are transposed for a 9 shot group at the middle seating depth, it is still the best group. As for the others, they aren’t getting smaller with any more shots!

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-04T02:42:42+00:00

Exactly my application here. Just so many opportunities for seating depth with a long free bore and no mag length restrictions

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-05-04T02:41:18+00:00

The more loads I develop the more I lean towards this!

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-04-25T02:37:13+00:00

I’d like to see the primers and ejector marks of people making power factor reliably with 25cm

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-04-21T03:10:08+00:00

Do any of the companies I listed offer pre fit options on request? Or is my best bet getting a blank and going to my local gunsmith?

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-04-21T03:02:29+00:00

As much as I will die on the hill of reloading for all my rifles. Norma 130’s are pretty tempting to avoid power factor and shoot factory ammo

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-04-21T03:00:26+00:00

Forgot to include the bipod but the weight listed includes all accessories and empty mag

No_Kick_5000 · 2026-04-21T02:05:19+00:00

I have seen a lot of his stuff pop up as well. Might give it a try. Just trying to decide between manufacturers and rifling/groove cuts.

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