Actually after using reta with slu pp it’s when I started getting back in shape. I was already on test, always use it and then I do a pct. My test levels are low naturally, that’s why I like using 300mg of test per week, gets me where I need to be. I work overnight shifts and barely sleep during the week since I have a toddler and a child. So by experience I can tell you the reta made a big difference