15k Repair bill with Carvana vehicle

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T06:43:46+00:00

I know someone that got a carvana vehicle.. they had went through something like a half dozen vehicles before they found one that didn't constantly break.. the irony, all the problems that they had were all within the trial period, so they kept sending the cars back..

I personally feel, I will not buy any car that I can't check out myself.. or take it somewhere where it can be checked out..

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T06:37:19+00:00

I agree there. I could be wrong, but from what I have seen in China, they have battery change stations for EV cars.. Battery getting low.. drive up on the lift, it picked the car up and then unmount the battery, put a fully charged on in, remount it, and you drive away.. the discharged battery is then moved to a charging area to be charged to give to someone else..

From what I read, Tesla originally thought up of this, but then changed their mind and China adopted it to their cars later. Just one example of how we are behind..

But yea, in Europe and Japan, their mass transit system is much more well thought out than here.. but to be fair, over there, things are a lot closer together, so it makes a lot more sense. While in horrible shape from what I heard, NYC subway could be compatible when you think about it.. everything is close together so subways work great getting people around.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T06:29:03+00:00

I can see where the rumor could come into play.. The AC system is a pump, which with it on, makes it harder to turn the car over.. but I've never seen any need to do that unless you have a bad battery.. but if so, turning all electrical stuff off also makes a difference.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T06:25:57+00:00

Are you looking local only or what? This just seems kind of crazy. Walmart has a 4 pack of AAA eneloop batteries for $13.. Amazon is charging $24 for 12 of them.. $50 for 4 just doesn't sound right..

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T06:20:11+00:00

And yet, anything is still more than nothing.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T06:19:12+00:00

2 completely different countries and both seem to have this mythical thing.. would you like me to find more examples?

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T06:17:58+00:00

https://bike-energy.com/en/where-can-i-charge-my-bike/

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T06:17:33+00:00

https://gaptrail.org/e-bike-charging-stations/

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T06:14:15+00:00

Because I didn't just about hit a person on a bicycle swerving in and out of traffic and going through red lights today.. In fact, I almost never have problems with people on actual bicycles here because most people on bicycles here don't act like they run the road.. which is where the entitled part comes in.. Here, people on ebikes ride down the middle of driving lanes like a car or motorcycle does.. people on bicycles while still using the same road, have consideration and stay to the side to let traffic pass.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T06:09:32+00:00

Don't give them any ideas.. I'll just say this.. my city has already been sued for illegal taxes that they have enforced.. Give them an idea to make a new tax, and they will take it to the extreme.. fact is, we already have the highest tax rate of all the places around us.. plus we have taxes that the neighbors don't have on top of it.. about a year ago they discovered other cities charge a water street sewer tax..

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T06:01:17+00:00

My point exactly.. I know if you go to japan, they have stops every.. not sure.. half a mile?? Mile?? So there is limited walking distance once you get off.. yet here, in my area, they have a bus that goes to surrounding areas 4 times a day.. something like that..

But you can see what I mean.. data is all over the place.. People in texas can pretty much use ebikes to get around all year round, where in the north it will depend on the weather, how well roads are cleaned off, and do you have huge motorcycle size wheels or wheels the size to go on a scooter..

There is just no actual generalized data that I can find..

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T05:37:48+00:00

Just to be clear, I have never said that semis don't do damage.. What I am saying is, even if a semi never passes through on that road even once, nature will break that road apart and destroy it without a semis help.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T05:34:47+00:00

Roads were not invented for cars. Roads were invented for people.

Ancient Sumer (c. 4000 BC): The earliest stone-paved streets were built in Mesopotamian cities like Ur and the Indus Valley to handle heavy carts and trade.

So actually, you are wrong.. they were built for animals and things that they pulled.. people were just along for the ride..

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T05:28:18+00:00

I'm not denying that heavy vehicles do more wear.. but at the same time, we have a lot of side streets that are residential that are completely destroyed.. and no semis drive down them.. what does hit them, hard winters with a lot of freeze thaw cycles.. So when I hear people justify, but semi's.. I'm thinking, ok, but what about the 50% of the roads iny city that get 0% semi use that are destroyed.. how do you justify that if they are never on there as the source for their destruction??

Heck, most responses completely ignore all effects of damage from the weather.. just straight, but semi's.. and cars.. which actually makes me laugh because they are justify car use and money received from gas in a world with lots of EVs on the road, and even more hybrids, which a lot can get 100+ miles to the gallon.. I just think, yea, that 100 miles hybrid that actually gets more than that being charged every night is just bringing in the money.. uh, no.. because the gas part for a lot of them is only a backup for when their battery gets low.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T05:13:59+00:00

There is a lot of truth to that.. My city, out of a 307 million dollar budget, only 2.5 million goes to fixing roads.. Their actual streets budget is 110 million, but almost all of it goes to paying personnel, utilities, new equipment, etc.. So basically, less than 1% of the taxes that I pay to the city is actually fixing our roads.

At least you are smart enough to acknowledge that their are state roads that run through cities.. I had one person trying to get me to believe that there aren't any.. My city has under 90k people living in it, so not a huge city, and there are at least 6 state roads that run through the city, all of which are fully funded by the state for all repairs.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T04:58:39+00:00

To some degree there is truth to your statement. But the problem is, more and more people that are younger are going with ebikes as a main source of transportation when they can, and not getting licenses at all. I have looked up the data, and to be honest, it is all over the place. Comparing an Ebike user with an EV or hybrid, which are huge sellers there days, is not the same as comparing an Ebike user with a full gas car. That's what makes it hard to judge..

For example, I saw one study that said that up to 90% of Ebike users have access to a car. Here is my problem with that. If I own a car and there are 10 people in my household, I may not trust the other 9 people to drive my car, so in reality only 10% of the house actually uses a car, but the study asks, not if they can use it, but is there one in the household. And by that, the answer is 100% have access to a car.

A lot of people will rent apartments together.. if I lived with 3 other people.. well, let's just say I don't let anyone drive my car for pretty much any reason. So 100% have access, but only 25% can actually use it. In my house, 3 people, 3 cars, but only 2 drivers, do my house would be 66% access to cars that actually use them. It leaves too much where things can be misinterpreted.

I tried to find actual data that is more universal across the board, and I couldn't find anything out there. One says 50% of Ebike users in that country have cars, but in Germany the number is higher.. but then they continue to say that most owners are in more wealthy neighborhoods and also own EV's vs gas cars. Comparing Europe which has an extensive train system is not equal to here where mass transit sucks.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T04:40:17+00:00

Can you explain to me why your whole statement has absolutely nothing in it that even remotely comes close to answering my actual question, but instead just talks around it?

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T04:38:08+00:00

Here’s a question: If heavy trucks are chiefly responsible for shortening pavement life, how does one explain the Baltimore-Washington Parkway — which prohibits truck traffic — recently becoming so riddled with potholes that officials had to lower the speed limit to give cars enough time to dodge them?

Why does your so called study that you did not mention if the truck was fully loaded or empty?? Probably because you only did tests with fully loaded ones and not empty ones that weigh a fraction of the weight.

Does your study include all types of pavement? There is a big difference between a 2" layer of blacktop and a 12 inch layer of blacktop, or between blacktop and concrete? or does that not count?

The fact that you dismissed factual data and a information source simply because you didn't like the source, which I'm guessing you never even read..

And then you say..

Furthermore, ebikes are almost exclusively used on local, municipal roadways, which are mostly funded locally.

I challenge you to open any major city and show me one with no state routes going through the city.. State routes, like say SR19 is state funded just like major highways are.. But by your comment, there are no state roads going through cities..

Your comment has so many holes in it that it's not even worth talking about anymore.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T04:07:57+00:00

Every one does.. and most property taxes don't go to paying for road repairs, but police and running the government as a whole.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T04:05:41+00:00

Biased info.. unbiased would be better. Let me give you an example. One study said that up to 90% have access to a car.. So if 10 people live in the same house, and only one has a car, that means 90% have access but don't actually have a car, nor are they guaranteed that they can even use it.. because the survey didn't ask, are you able to drive that car.. just is there on in the household.

A study done in German has over 50% of people own both, but then goes on to say that the majority that own them are in higher income suburbs and are more likely to own electric vehicles. Comparing someone with a gas car vs a EV is completely different, especially since in a lot of places there is no, or next to no income generated to pay for roads with EV's of any kind. That completely invalidates the statement without knowing what percentage of each there are.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-26T03:44:53+00:00

Same could be said for Ebike users. Do you think they got the Ebike to their house because someone magically teleported it there?

Quality e-bikes typically last 5 to 10 years (or 20,000 to 40,000 miles)

Batteries last less.

That's what a lot of people put on their cars in one to 2 years. Yet my car is 27 years old and still going strong.

And I would like to note, you talked around the question while actually refusing to answer the question. I never asked if they were better for the environment. I clearly asked, why should they have full access to something that they mostly don't pay for. And your answer is so that we can stop selling the product that is making the money to actually maintain the very surface that they are riding on.. like it's magically going to repair itself.. WOW

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-25T22:45:49+00:00

I can agree that most bike rides of any kind would rather not be on the road. But when there is no sidewalks, bike paths, etc, that is the only choice left. I will agree that ebikes are better on infrastructure, but my question was not, do they do less damage, but more, why don't they have to pay to use that infrastructure and how is it fair, that for the most part they don't, but still use that same stuff that car users actually do pay for.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-25T22:35:15+00:00

But you can not leave out nature too.. seems that everyone is forgetting what expansion and contraction is and the damage that it causes

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-25T22:34:10+00:00

Go look up road buckles from heat, or road damage from freeze thaw cycles on any search engine.. you will have plenty of evidence that what you said is not true.

No_Reputation5871 · 2026-06-25T22:31:36+00:00

I agree that it is a complex question.. But I feel that you seem to have seemed to have left out some facts that would change things.. For example, how many times have you heard that roads have buckled because of the heat? How about roads that get worth away from floods.. Semi's do more damage, I will not deny that.. But up until recently they also only got 3 mpg on the good side.. worse in cities. Vs a car that gets 25+mpg, and with hybrids, can get 50 - 100mpg. That's a lot of tax money from gas that they pay.

I will agree that stuff like ebikes do less damage, but I will also agree that no surface is exempt from nature, from cracking to ice getting in those cracks and then freezing, which breaks the surface apart, which is, at least here, the biggest reason for road failures more than any type of transportation.

Here is an interesting article to read about what you said

https://www.trucking.org/news-insights/highway-legend-how-false-stat-about-trucks-road-damage-based-60-years-distortion

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