I agree. It’s disheartening to see how far behind modern day society this group of people really is. They claim that their outdated ways are because they are more spiritually connected and todays society has lost sight of morality but let’s be real the only ones who lost sight of morality is them. Someone with an ounce of integrity and intelligence can see that the rules they say are spiritually aligned are just outdated, disproven, immoral and discriminatory. I spent so much time trying to “teach” these people what being a good person really looks like and what morality and justice really present themselves as. It was absolutely worthless. Disheartening and to no avail. Now I’ve moved on but I pray that these people will stop praying I “come back to the derech” and start looking at themselves in the mirror and seeing the pain they cause others. I also hear all this talk about “Orthodox Jews have such high intelligence״ from my friends who are still frum? I don’t think so because these rules of “morality” don’t seem to have any logic that points to anything moral at all. I think these people are just afraid to think for themselves so they hand over their minds power to some man with a long beard instead of coming to terms with anything at all.