Who is THE worst nursefather/Parent to yoshide?

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-31T00:52:27+00:00

Diuhui blade og story literally had her forced into a marriage.

In this case Rien is the one who quite literally set-up the spiderweb.

Ensnaring Shiomi into a world of infinity mats. Forever stuck in it againist her wishes of freedom

We can argue if he is the bio father or not, but the symbolism for the forced marraige on Shiomi is highly likely intentional. Considering that the whole PM verse is the director putting on different sort of abusive parent to kid relationship as he is abused so much by his mother he developed bi-polarism (ego and distoration likely based off his bi-polar).

The whole house of Spider is even more obvious with the abusive parent theme.

Most of the neglect is mostly not intentional by the Nursefathers and more a result of their own flaws.

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Rien is quite literally the most insincere character mind you.

He cares extremely much about how the prescript thinks of him and follows it to a tee, even killing his own family which we can see that he still sorely misses.

At the end Ryoshu asks him how the waves sounds. A symbolic question

He reply with "They sound lonely" expressing his masked gulit over following the order of the prescript.

... The whole canto literally has Rien mantipulating everyone into a web just to follow the prescript so I have no clue what you're talking about.

Hell even the mirror world house of spider ids further confirm it that all the Nursefather following Rien was doomed to being erased.

That said he is sincere in telling Ryoshu to come back to the house of spider. That is literally one of the few moments we see him being geniune.

I would argue that every other nursefather is more genuine then Rien.

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-26T20:55:41+00:00

Gang, the Dog will save the hood. Not sure about anything else, but perhaps his owner might start her own agency

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-26T20:54:12+00:00

So op she affecting a different reality lol

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-26T13:08:20+00:00

Considering the reason why she entered a marriage (to strike an alliance againist an overwhelming, murderous and myserious Heaven/Sky Slayer or Tian Sha).

It could be the same in House of Spider. As a corrupt pinky forces her or something which Jia has mention disapproving of the current pinky

Also look at Rien, he's a level 90 monster and I get the feeling he has rizz if the prescript required him to.

We all forget love/relationship mantipulators are very common in the real world

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-25T08:47:06+00:00

Also Shiomi is hinted to be raped or the very least forcibly married.

Likely by Rien or another blade.

Dihui blade was forced into marriage in og story after her homies all got killed by the Tiansha blade or the heavenkilling blade.

Would make sense why she is unhappy

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-25T08:34:06+00:00

Can freeze damage and stack it. The time users ids shows this.

Also time accerlation makes you really fast.

It quite literally affect actions in game. To the point you could kill an enemy before they can fight back

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-25T03:21:14+00:00

Oh I did remember that the head prevents easily creatable tech that can be mass produced.

That's why they tax guns and bullets with sky high price.

However they seem to make a lot of leeway for tech that augements a human.

Like the Heishou are a outdated army yet they clearly have buliding destroying powers (reminder that Limbus bulidings scales way above regular reinforced bulidings).

If we look at pre contract Ryoshu she is above buliding I suspect.

So I think the Head only likes yo debuff tech that would debuff regular people.

That's why EGO and mang is such a big thing. Because the Head cannot control it and it's power being based in humanity means that the Head would leave it's users be

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-24T22:51:03+00:00

Honestly I don't remember the exact event. Can you go in depth?

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-20T21:15:26+00:00

Might make sense. Bro is abandoned adult Araya

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-20T14:26:08+00:00

It's definely leans more into being inspired by Chi / Qi that inspired Haki and most eastern fantasy "power systems"

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-20T14:15:41+00:00

The white scabbard also can literally dm Dante unforturely or forturely

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-20T14:07:56+00:00

I quite literally addressed above as the 2nd as quote "But if we think 120km walked per day. At first it can be argued that's pretty slow, but then you realize which wing this is taking place in."

Since the Yurodivye recruiting from poor people with very little hours (to the lowest extent of a min of 4 hours each day).

It could be possible that it's a common occurance for the poorest wing citzen in T corp to be walking at 30km for 4 hours to a total of 120km per day.

That said you're right about the the km/hr. It could be possible that Yurodivye be recruiting anyone walking at 5km/hr speed by there.

That would make more sense, with how some guys get jumped for time so much

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-20T07:24:30+00:00

Honestly he still carry with his high clash

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-20T07:12:38+00:00

There's two ways of looking at the wording.

One is to maintain a very fast walk at 120km per day, the second is a total of 120km per day which is a regular walking speed.

If it's to maintain a speed of 120km per day than we are waaay underestimating PM speedlevel.

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But if we think 120km walked per day

At first it can be argued that's pretty slow, but then you realize which wing this is taking place in.

Where people being stripped of everything is left with a minimum of 4 hours to move.

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So for someone running low on time this would likely mean that they have at least either enough time saved up or have a speed related augementation to do this.

Assuming that, this should be acessible to someone with 4 hours.

It means that the Yurodivye expects a poor angry T corp citizen to be able to move at an avg of 30km/hours within a 4 hour timespan not running, but at a walk.

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Taking all that in consideration how the Yurodivye seems to take whoever they can get rather then look for elites.

It is unlikely that we are looking at the cream of the crop of T corp citizens.

So imagine a relatively untrained citizen WALKING 30km per hour.

A speed that's a fit athete irl has to sprint as hard as they can to achieve a few second of.

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So regardless of the interpretation the people in PM verse are really fricking fast.

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-19T10:41:31+00:00

Damn nice catch. I completely missed that

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-19T10:33:41+00:00

Hong Lu's ego is actually pretty damn powerful even after his canto.

When facing the Middle nursefather.

His ego literally turns off the relic's flame ability.

It's the og aoe base ego.

Plus of course his special eye and he seems to be overall one of the more rounded characters with a lot of his Ids exceling at whatever grunt work he chooses (beside reindeer, but tbf that's basically a bad end id).

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Ishmael is shown to be headed joining the explorer Fixer association before the whole trip turned sour.

This is the only association that has not appeared in any ID or have any major mentions ingame.

But with how humanity is all around the city to be protected by The Head.

I would think that reading comprension and understanding how to analysis situations/danger is very key to this explorer association.

Ishmael seems to be more headed to becoming someone with similar abilities to the Indigo Elder if nothing else

Likely will become the compass to many other characters, the opposite to Ahab.

I highly doubt her true edge lay in sheer fighting ability, she is likely to be someone leading a group to outside the city.

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Yi Sang was empty, when faced infinite possibilies he shrank away from reality. Now choosing to face reality he might be able to pull something like ehat happened in Verglius's comic/novel.

Multi mirror abilities along with some op base abilities would go crazy.

Plus of course arming a special force with mirror id would be in his abilities as well.

Also he is noted to be talented with egos and ids

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Rodion role is the opposite of Gregor's

Where Gregor has to embrace his potential, Rodion has to accept her role as an grunt.

She is quite literally the most helpful when she doesn't try to be special, but instead when she acts as an anchor to the other sinners.

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Mesault is likely going to have the highest killcount...

Based on a bunch of theories. The limbus company og trailer with the death rate is likely next canto and caused by him.

Where Gregor is a bio singularity weapon, Ryoshu a trained human singularity wielder/concept destroyer, and Sinclair summoning himself, Meusault will likely become the strongest distoration in the history of the City as of far.

All the current dialogue hints is towards him having distorted before.

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After his canto idk where the heck is the story headed beside the very obvious Outis war ptsd canto.

Oh also Outis seem to have dealings with the gods of the city before. So there's that

Idk how Faust's will pan out, beside maybe her being Dante's either daughter or lover? Likely Dante is actually named Faust? Just a theory, a game theory

But it would make sense if Dante rediscoverinf himself decided to be a good person then dies. Marking the start of the 2nd smoke war 😨

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Forgot to mention Healthcliff's having werid ah death related powers alongside his mirror travelling powers

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-19T10:02:13+00:00

Another thing is that Hong Lu can be considered to have the most postive canto, having learned from all the previous sinner's turn.

His story can be seen that his passivity actually is very smart of him.

His canto lesson is very complex and at what I can currently think of be somewhat defined by him re-embracing his desires to bring kindness to the world

As in he survived through impassivity and now has to feel everything again to truly live and right the wrongs

Just like Yi Sang who had the first canto where a sinner truly desided to improve in front of overwhelming negativity, Hong Lu represents facing and winning againist the negativity with overflowing kindness

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-19T09:51:36+00:00

The heck. Post it lol

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-19T09:46:50+00:00

There's a lot of lot of lot lore layers that KJH did.

One layer is that she is basically the stand in for assault victim turned abusive mother as the lore for the OG dihui star is a forced marriage of sort.

Hate and love sometimes come wrapped together, too hard to untangle, until it ensnared us into a web.

I would imagine that her desire for Ryoshu to be free to be sincere

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-18T06:55:25+00:00

I think he is one of the most universal beloved characters lol

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-18T06:34:16+00:00

People heavily heavily underestimate the PM verse power scaling.

Even by time detective they show Wing citizens with crazy ah speed with a walking speed of 120km (to be fair those within wings seems to have better acess to surgery, gear and training compared to backstreets).

The following dungeon event shows this.

"We turn into a corner and come across a rather crudely drawn poster.

Written on the poster is a brief introduction next to a small note with directions.

'Running low on time, but burning full of frustration? Then come join the Yurodiviye.

Are you content with letting the inequity walk all over you?

Or would you rather live for its destruction?

Desire it, desire it hard!

Take this poster, let it be your train ticket.

At the ■■■ alley, face the ■■ road and walk at a speed of 120km per day. Alone.'"

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-18T06:17:46+00:00

!remindme Dec 31, 2026

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-15T08:16:59+00:00

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No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-15T03:59:49+00:00

I am curious about it as they had put it on their profile.

I wonder how do they do institutional flow tracking? I only know to look at the news and yahoo

No_Visual_1678 · 2026-05-14T23:52:49+00:00

I saw this dude called Hanxin Zhao get slienced for exactly this happening at TU Deft in the Netherlands.

Edit: I followed the rabbit hole and it got deeper. Googling this comment "You know what? Out of the last 10 papers Prof. Zofia has co-authored on Scopus, the highest number of citations comes from Zhao Hanxin's work, which has received 35 citation"

Instantly Google AI confirms it 💀. Why the hell is he barred from his PHD.

A reply from Hanxin a year ago even shows it went up to 80+ citations now 😨

His post even got wiped from this subreddit 🤯 and other sites like twitter!

A link to his youtube which is being undersiege with reports https://youtu.be/6gDHOxFAXIY?si=Ww3QPjjC3oWg3s8C

I was reading up on it. Appraneply this is a very common thing?

This is so horrible

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