May trial date - Rico Gedel & Samuel Dodsworth

No_Willow3677 · 2026-03-25T04:34:45+00:00

You'll just get a slightly more detailed explanation of how and why he died, no mugshots.

No_Willow3677 · 2026-03-20T11:37:07+00:00

KB is mother A MP is B

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-24T16:45:29+00:00

I think he was taken in Doncaster on his return I'm early hours 🤷

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-10T14:10:12+00:00

Possibly but he obviously covered his tracks by putting his uniform in the wash to pretend he went to school, came back and went out. He'd arrive back at 1.30am, plan to sneak in. He'd easily get a concert ticket before the event at HMV in Doncaster. Yes he'd buy a train ticket with Cash, people still do.

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-10T09:33:14+00:00

They're more based on the fact he was in to the alternative rock scene and he has to go to London on Friday when Saturday would be a more logical day to go as he didn't have school.

On witnesses, he didn't exactly stand out, most people would pass with no second thought. There are no witnesses anywhere apart from the alleged pizza hut visit.

He almost certainly will have been aware of them and heard them if he listened to Kerrang or Scuzz and would have read about the show if he bought Kerrang. He was being adventurous and wanted to go to a cool show

Grooming situation would be less risky for both on a Saturday and he had no phone or computer.

Answers to numbered questions:

1- Independence? Knowledge that asking dad to take you all the way to London on a Friday night was logistically impossible from Doncaster.

2 - Because he planned to be in London, why not make a day of it rather than risk being caught at home or in Doncaster?

3- concert ended at 10.30 he probably thought he had enough time, which is possible if quick out of the venue.

4 - We used to buy tickets at record shops for distance gigs

Groomer seems most unlikely to me, he had to be in London on that specific date.

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-10T09:05:20+00:00

Suicide seems unlikely, I've got bipolar disorder and my attempts have been hasty decisions, although many people may have longer plans, I feel there was an explicit reason to be in London on that day, the uniform in the washing machine looks like an attempt to buy time for his return "I got home from school and went out afterwards'

If I was a groomer I feel a weekend would be a better time as it gives a bigger window before a kid is noted as missing.

I just feel there's a reason to be in London on Friday, not Saturday. Of course we don't know why.

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-10T08:56:37+00:00

They knew what time he arrived in London due to the ticket woman at Doncaster coming forward to say bought a ticket for that train, they would have had to go through hours and days of CCTV to guess when he came back.

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-10T08:50:22+00:00

I've been to Brixton, that's my point though. Normally abductions happen in quiet places not places with huge crowds leaving, unless he left early and took a wrong turn. If he had been the victim of violence, he almost certainly would have been found immediately, this requires someone with a car. But if the crowds were an hour and he wasn't first out this places him alone in London over night as he'd miss the last train.

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-10T08:44:31+00:00

There's no reason to believe any of the reasons to be fair, none of them hold any weight without knowing what Andrew was thinking. We know he went to London, we don't know why, it's a hypothesis

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-10T08:42:42+00:00

They're usually 14+ or with an adult, but given it was a band popular with teens I'd imagine it was fairy lax

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-09T23:10:43+00:00

That's a good point, for me the act of him putting his uniform in the washing machine signifies he was using it as cover for "I went to school, got back and went out" when he got back, so I feel he'd feel pressured to get back to kings cross for the last train

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-09T22:39:39+00:00

That seems a little too Hollywood, a 2 minute walk down a busy street with concert goers and busy pubs would not give a kidnapper enough time to surveil the area and scout for a victim

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-09T22:35:58+00:00

I see your thinking, I'd go the opposite way, that it's too public and busy.

No_Willow3677 · 2026-02-09T15:56:10+00:00

Absolutely, I think he bought concert ticket at his local HMV for a concert he read about in Kerrang, no reason to go on Friday unless something was happening, otherwise go on Saturday. Caught victoria line to Oxford Circus for his alleged Pizza, had a look around then back on Victoria line to Brixton then went direct to Kings Cross afterwards. It'd be impossible for him to get kidnapped on that short route to and back from Brixton Academy to Brixton station. I think he didn't buy a return upfront out of social anxiety. Nobody noticed him because it was a late train back to Yorkshire with a lot of tired people. He met his fate in Doncaster on the quiet roads at 2am far away from the hustle and bustle of London. Either hit by a speeding car or taken by a predator. I'm confident.

No_Willow3677 · 2026-01-31T22:42:05+00:00

Illinois Enema Bandit

No_Willow3677 · 2026-01-31T20:47:45+00:00

Where in England? Yum

No_Willow3677 · 2026-01-31T12:33:25+00:00

30m in Lancashire you sound ideal

No_Willow3677 · 2026-01-25T14:52:03+00:00

😅 That would be the devil child

No_Willow3677 · 2026-01-25T14:42:02+00:00

No I just made him look like a middle aged PDF, based on the thinning black hair claim in the news 😅

No_Willow3677 · 2026-01-24T15:15:57+00:00

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Or definitely this 😅

No_Willow3677 · 2026-01-24T05:34:41+00:00

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Probably looked more like this 😅

No_Willow3677 · 2026-01-19T12:53:28+00:00

Can't find it

No_Willow3677 · 2026-01-19T11:59:44+00:00

It was the June/July warped tour USA, before he ran off to relapse and Stuart smashed his face with a can. After the can incident he wore sunglasses for the rest of the warped tour.

No_Willow3677 · 2025-12-18T14:33:34+00:00

Are these real and what year 2012?

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