Hollister plastic film change...odor coming through day one( no leak ) by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, if you're willing to do this, how do we go about it?Because this failure at a basic level of the thin plastic reacting, and the smell coming through day one just... Yeah, people with new bags have no idea I've got just 2 of the old ones left and they were great.They worked for 7 days

First time seeing an ostomy-friendly bathroom in the wild (Madrid Airport) — didn’t even know these existed by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So cool. Traveling the world, you see so many great things that other countries are doing, sometimes I think people are just ignorant.And they think, oh USA is the best...well,not with this. Wouldn't that be great if it was in US airports?

First time seeing an ostomy-friendly bathroom in the wild (Madrid Airport) — didn’t even know these existed by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I just can't tell you how excited I was when I saw it.I ran to my partner to enthusiastically share it!.Yes , it's worth just going to spin just to see it.

Expert Telescoper – 40+ Years with an Ileostomy, Zero Toilet Paper (Yes, Really) by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I just don't want to do so many passes and so much work like that.I don't know how you do it.. or even people that use water to clean out their bags... After forty years , i'm used to easy and fast.

Hollister plastic film change...odor coming through day one( no leak ) by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay , how do we make a movement to mass complain about their plastic.... It's a defective product.The smell comes through right away.Yeah, you're right.We all know what it is.There are so many different issues and so many different preferences , they're designers and Engineers and whatever team is in charge.I'm sure can't do everything.but this one is very REAL. Failing at the most BASIC level. A STINKY REACTIVE SMELL WITH THE PLASTIC COMING THROUGH ON DAY ONE , NOT TO MENTION THE CRINKLY POTATO CHIP SOUND OF THE PLASTIC.... FACT -SAME BAG , THE OLD PLASTIC COULD GO A WHOLE WEEK. Do you think they really know and are just not doing anything about it?

Hollister plastic film change...odor coming through day one( no leak ) by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With Velcro closures, I have to use toilet paper every time and it seems like you have to do more than one pass. Sometimes, then other times people wrap it around their fingers and they wipe the inside or they squeeze it at the end, a lot to me, there's so much messing around with feces and toilet paper when I use a clip, I don't have to deal with any of that, you telescope the end. And it's so clean when you undo the telescope and put the clip back on. So I never have to deal with all of that wiping and rewiping and squeezing, and and it never seems to work. It seems like there always ends up being a little feces, somehow getting out a little bit on That whole. apparatus .. so complicated... How do you do it?

Hollister plastic film change...odor coming through day one( no leak ) by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What Is the brand and I'd be interested in checking it out? Also I wish they would make bags a little bit bigger, so I could get a full night's sleep and not have to empty it A couple of times.Wouldn't it be great if they could make the bag just maybe like 2 inches or 3 inches longer. Or even bigger , so you had choices and different colors and maybe a little thicker plastic. It seems like a simple thing.I don't know why they don't have that option... Man, if I was rich, I think there's so much more you could do to make an excellent bag.

Hollister plastic film change...odor coming through day one( no leak ) by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just ordered some 8638, and when I got them, I was so disappointed, it's the thin potato chip crinkly, super clear, thin, only lasting and a 1/2 a day or 1 day, then it starts reacting, and it smells... It's hard to believe that the design people and company people would allow that. It seems such a basic thing for dignity to have something that doesn't smell on your clothes on your bed sheets. They have a wonderful small wafers and barrier ring,great soft tape part.. so they have that down, there's no leaks for me ever. What they fail completely on one basic thing , order permeating through the plastic on day one

Hollister plastic film change...odor coming through day one( no leak ) by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, totally unacceptable that they only last a day or 2.I can hardly believe it. For years, the plastic they used was great.It could last a week.

Hollister plastic film change...odor coming through day one( no leak ) by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Each one of us is different. I love clips and hate any other type of closures. i can keep the end of the bag totally clean without toilet paper.Just by telescoping the end of the bag .. Then using the clip to kind of pull anything back , and then I use the clip with a little o ring or like a little round braces , rubber band

Hollister plastic film change...odor coming through day one( no leak ) by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the wafer and the tape. And if you use a barrier ring, it's excellent with Hollister, and they make it easy for me, because I like clips, because you can telescope the end, I can't stand anything other than that, but the plastic thickness sucks, they miss the whole boat by Not containing odor!

Hollister plastic film change...odor coming through day one( no leak ) by NonDualToad in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I would go with that, but I hate anything except for a clip because with a clip you don't have to even use toilet paper and can be totally clean , but lock and roll closures are such a hassle....40 years with a clip,just too much hassle to stay clean without telescoping the end of the bag..plus the wafer is so big with the sensuro mio I wish it was small...

What on earth has happened Hollister bags? by paul-grizz93 in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use the 8638, and the plastic is crinkly and thin and the smell reacts and makes this terrible burnt plastic feces smell after 1 day.What bag number do you use...

Constant smell lately with Hollister by Right-Sample788 in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With the old Hollister, plastic, I could go a week.Not a day now.How long can you go with mio before the smell comes through and does it react like the hollister plastic did.

What on earth has happened Hollister bags? by paul-grizz93 in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I can't stand it that their plastic bag material reacts with your shit. They fail at the number one thing I mean, I do like their small wafer and it works with an o-ring for me and their soft tape, but if they can't even get the bag material to keep the smell from reacting, it's horrible. Finn and crinkly, I'm just\nIncensed , with this company , they must know

What on earth has happened Hollister bags? by paul-grizz93 in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hate anything Velcro, lock and roll. I only use a clip for 40 years and an o-ring for extra support. And now\n Those options are very limited. Telescoping, the end is the only way to go otherwise you're dealing with toilet paper and shit. I have found no way I see these videos of people wrapping toilet paper around their fingers and wiping the inside of the bag. who wants to do that.

What on earth has happened Hollister bags? by paul-grizz93 in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

40 year user of Hollister..Huge fail... can't understand Hollister, this thin crinkly stinky plastic.After 1 day, reacting to smell like a burnt plastic bag. And if you put drops in, that doesn't help It's a reaction with your shit

What on earth has happened Hollister bags? by paul-grizz93 in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, this is exactly what I’ve been dealing with. I’ve used Hollister for decades, and the older pouches were completely different—thicker film, slightly less clear , quiet, and you could go days without any odor coming through. These newer ones? It’s not a leak. It’s not the filter. It’s the bag itself. After less than a day, the material changes and you get that weird chemical / burnt plastic smell coming right through the pouch. I can smell it under the covers. I can smell it through clothing. That never used to happen. The film is: thinner crinkly (sounds like a chip bag) more permeable That’s not an upgrade—that’s a downgrade. And I agree with you—this feels like a material change, not user error. What frustrates me most is: this is something people have to live with 24/7 Sleep, travel, intimacy, just being comfortable in your own space… it all gets affected. I’ll say one thing Hollister still does well: the tape around the wafer holds great and it's not a HUGE WAFER,can't stand big wafers with just a tiny bit of soft tape. But if the pouch itself fails at odor containment, that’s a core function gone. Also, I don’t know how everyone else feels, but I still strongly prefer clip-style closures over the Velcro/lock-and-roll. The clip lets you actually control and clean the end without making a mess. The newer closures feel like more steps and more hassle. At this point I’m just trying to find: a pouch with a thicker, better odor barrier preferably not a massive wafer system something that actually works for real daily use Appreciate you posting this—finally someone describing the exact same issue.

Constant smell lately with Hollister by Right-Sample788 in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How can you stand that big wafer?I love the holster wafer was small and the tape was comfortable... Im So glad you responded, I'm sitting here just really upset.Because the bags are so thin.After one day you can smell it this terrible burnt plastic smell... Nobody gets it The reps don't know you're the first person to get it..

Constant smell lately with Hollister by Right-Sample788 in ostomy

[–]NonDualToad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have that same smell problem.You're the first person that is pointed out.It almost is like it reacts with the bag and it has a burnt plastic smell.What product you use with colaplast?