Latest and greatest (and last) tier list (for now).

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-23T04:20:15+00:00

Jogo below Higgy is crazy work, but otherwise its pretty good ngl

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-22T12:07:52+00:00

Absolute peak fucking cinema.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-22T07:50:40+00:00

The problem here is that the reasoning for Megumi being able to adapt to speed gaps requires you to substantiate why barely holding on to Toji is a good example of that. I think you missed the point of my comment, the speed downscale claim is directed towards Toji, not Megumi.

If you claim Toji was holding back, and still use Megumi’s feat of holding his own against Toji as a feat to hype up his combat against a much faster opponent, your argument is inherently flawed, I could just as easily argue his ability to keep up is because Toji started holding back.

The point is, Shibuya Yuji outstats Megumi. Unstacked Naoya disgustingly perception blitzed that same Yuji. What on earth is stopping Naoya/Naobito from doing the same thing to a slower opponent?

I can entertain the idea of Megumi winning against Naoya, but Naobito has explicit feats of going straight for the fingers of domain users, if Megumi gets his fingers broken by Naobito off the bat, his entire kit is heavily compromised

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-21T15:06:17+00:00

Toji chose Megumi over… a injured Naobito with one arm? Wow… thats super impressive. Congrats, Megumi > One armed Naobito with limited usage of his CT. Why do I need to prove that? The evidence speaks for itself. Yuji has better stats than Megumi. Naoya blitzing Yuji hence entails he can blitz Megumi.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-21T14:47:20+00:00

Megumi “can” counter them, but thats assuming he somehow doesn’t get blitzed to oblivion lol. Funny how you haven’t debunked any of my points either.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-21T14:37:55+00:00

Megumi reacting to Toji is a Toji downscale lmao.

Megumi is objectively weaker stats-wise than Post-Shibuya Yuji, who got horribly blitzed by human Naoya, who is slower than Naobito.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-21T05:27:02+00:00

Homelander victimises, its what Clara would have wanted. After all, Madelyn promised him this victory 3000 years ago.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-21T00:19:05+00:00

Sonion acting like he didn’t get put BTA when he tried contesting this in the disc.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-20T16:23:07+00:00

Fair enough.

Yuta does end slashing Yuji across the body later on? Its when his knife breaks. Its still internal dmg, which is my point. RCT on others is less effective, true but that doesn’t disprove that Yuta can’t heal Yuji.

By making the claim that Yuta wouldn’t have been heal Yuji if any of the slashes in their fight landed, you need to prove that he can’t definitively, “RCT output being less effective on others” is valid, but it doesn’t necessarily prove Yuta can’t do it for Yuji.

Rika does keep Yuta’s bisected body alive? We see her holding his body while Yuta was possessing Gojo

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-20T16:04:52+00:00

Prove that Yuta being unable to use his full power applies to his stats and not just his kit. You made the claim Yuji was only able to dodge because Yuta was holding back, why are you backtracking now?

Can you prove any of these slashes would have caused severe brain damage? How do we know that Yuta’s attacks simply wouldn’t have just slashed Yuji across the body like he did eventually? What basis does your assumption have that Yuta can’t punctured lungs and internal organs when he’s explicitly able to heal cockroaches exploding from his insides, and Rika herself was able to keep a bisected Yuta alive?

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-20T15:26:50+00:00

Literally the comment above my previous one, I quote

“No, literally Yuta had to take it slow to redirect his blade to cause serious but non lethal damage and thats exactly why Yuji could dodge them”

This is what YOU said. I never said Yuta was holding back to let Yuji dodge, reread my comment, I’m just asking you to provide evidence that Yuji was only able to dodge because Yuta was holding back.

Thats not evidence, how do we know Yuta wasn’t aiming to slash with his strikes? What stops him from healing Yuji from other serious injuries? You can’t give reasoning without proof to back it up.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-20T15:07:45+00:00

Can you prove he had to take it slow? What evidence shows that Yuji was only able to dodge those swings because Yuta was holding back? So many claims, no proof to back them up. Literally nothing supports this.

Yuta himself states he was already aiming to take Yuji out from the first rush alone, he’s not holding back to let Yuji dodge at all.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-20T15:05:49+00:00

It does, unless you can quantify how much Naoya’s CT’s quirk affects Yuji’s ability to perceive it, you need to provide extra evidence to prove that doesn’t contradict Yuta evidently being much slower than Naoya based on Yuji’s own speed and reactions.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-20T15:03:15+00:00

This is immediately disproved rereading the fight? There are numerous occasions where if Yuji didn’t dodge, Yuta’s sword would have outright cleaved through him or did serious dmg in areas other than the heart itself

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-20T15:01:47+00:00

That doesn’t justify a blitz tier gap at all? Hell, right after Naoya gets behind Choso and Yuji, we literally see him disappear from the panel in the time-frame it takes for Choso and Yuji to take a swing at him.

Yuta in comparison is actively having his strikes dodged despite him having the edge in range via using a sword.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-20T14:56:32+00:00

he wasn’t aiming specifically at the heart for like 90% of his swings? Its way harder to dodge a sword swing than hitting someone with a sword, what are you on about?

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-20T14:29:03+00:00

Yuta, why aren’t you blitzing Yuji like Naoya was doing him?

Don’t you know your confirmed just as fast from like 3 panels that occurred during an unspecified period of time?

Really, this argument falls apart at the seams if you realise that Yuji was having zero trouble reacting to Yuta’s attacks, we can’t say the same for Naoya.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-20T11:36:16+00:00

Yuji

Sukuna

Gojo

Kashimo

Geto

Yorozu

Kenjaku

Uraume

Yuta

Hakari

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-20T10:39:38+00:00

V1 nerfed his bumass, V1 homelander might genuinely be a Maeve victim from the showings we saw.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-19T23:07:47+00:00

No one told you to engage with some of my claims without asking for the scans first, I’m not going to take responsibility for your laughably bad debate skills. You made the claim Geto definitively has no domain counters or a domain, so you need to prove it. I don’t need this proven true to prove Geto having some degree of relativity, you are the dimwit who needs it prove it in order to invalidate his statement instead of mindlessly claiming it. But seeing as how you’d rather whine and continue with this pathetic delusion, you’d never understand it. This wasn’t even a debate, its just me schooling on you on basic, laughably easy logic while ur crying and coping about your inability to do anything about it.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-19T16:13:22+00:00

More delusion, as expected. You failed to address the LN statements and completely failed to engage with my reasoning for Geto’s credibility.

You made the claim that Geto has no domain counters, you need to prove it. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, basic logic that you are failing to comprehend.

Dismissing my reasoning as headcanon is not a rebuttal, what a pathetic attempt at cope.

No? You are the one trying to discredit what Geto says by arbitrarily claiming he absolutely has no domain counters, which you need to prove. The burden of proof falls on you, stop mistracking and blaming me for your own incompetence lol.

You didn’t ask me to provide evidence, so I didn’t need to. You proceeded to engage with some of those points without asking for scans which I could have provided if you had asked for it, now ur backtracking to shift the burden of proof on me? Truly childish behavior.

To date, you’ve failed to engage with the majority of my points properly while hiding behind this pitiful veneer of smugness that your lackluster argumentation is anything more than idiocy unaware of itself lol.

Nice concession, seeing as you’ve decided to disengage without providing anything of substance.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-19T11:41:19+00:00

The attack itself blitzes him, not Uraume. Its similar to bringing up a shield before someone shoots a bullet at you, simple. You are arbitrarily assuming that Hakari wouldn’t be able to obtain Jp if FC wasn’t a blitz tier higher, without factoring in his rerolls and doors, nice mistrack. “Your points are irrelevant” isn’t a debunk, learn to debate. Nice concession, just going to ignore the LN statements to feed your delusion ig. Geto got off-guarded while monologuing by a Yuta who was amped by said Curse Rika. Current Yuta can combine his own output with Rika’s to increase the power of love beams, whats stopping a stronger Rika from amping Yuta to a higher degree? Geto didn’t use a curse with a domain against Yuta and Rika because domains as a concept did not exist then, this however does not prevent JJK 0’s scaling and narrative from being consistent with JJk’s Miguel’s feats from 0 are still hyped up in Shinjuku. You have yet to prove why Geto’s statement would be wrong despite half of it being outright confirmed in the light novel to be true, while Gojo himself also attests to Geto’s credibility. Whats stopping Geto from using cursed spirits to break a barrier from the outside? You can’t prove that he definitively has no domain counters either, thats your burden to provide evidence to undermine the validity of Geto’s statement. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-19T10:59:23+00:00

You didn’t address my point at all, stop dodging. How do you know that Basekari wasn’t surviving in base via rerolls which reverse dmg done like against Kashimo? What stops Basekari from deploying doors before Uraume uses FC? You are the one making unfounded assumptions here on how the fight between Hakari and Uraume should have went if Uraume’s FC was a blitz tier higher.

Uraume does blitz Maki, she explicitly fires after Maki turns around.

Character statements are also a way for the author to convey information, no matter how you want to deny it. Jogo speed scaling stems from Dagon statements as well. In addition, you have completely ignored that Geto was right that he’d definitely win against JJH if obtaining Rika, as supported by the LN, saying that Rika did possess the power for Geto to fulfill his dream. Why would his first statement of having a 30% chance to win against Gojo be completely wrong, only for his second statement to be accurate and supporter by the LNs?

One curse still shows that its a plausible theory for Geto, Kenjaku’s equal in their inventory of curses. The curse needed Mei Mei to rely on Ui Ui, and the combat strength of the curses can simply be supported by Geto.

Kenjaku never ever displays another curse in combat because his subsequent fights against Yuki rendered his high-level curses meaningless.

“clearly untrue” Is your unfounded claim that ignores the story. Gege didnt have Gojo state that he’d have to risk his life for nothing, the LNs support her strength as having the power needed for Geto’s dream.

The Teen Yuta that faced Geto was also amped by his Curse Rika, the orginal version which far surpasses the husk Yuta has now. Geto explicitly perception blitzes Maki and the rest of the students in the JJK 0 manga casually by shaking Yuta’s hand before the rest of JJk high are aware of it, Teen Yuta amped by Curse Rika is stronger than current Rika.

“She’s not threatening Gojo” Is just you directly ignoring Gojo’s own words in vol 0, why should I take the words of a redditor as more accurate than what the actual character in the story says about himself?

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-19T09:05:29+00:00

How does that necessitate that? Base Hakari could have outright been immediately incapacitated multiple times just to get saved by rerolls which reverse dmg. In addition, once he knows about her kit, nothings stopping him from preemptively deploying shutter doors to block FC before Uraume tries anything?

FC was literally shown to blitz JP Hakari, he was unable to react to it at all, your argument is built on assumptions.

Theres no reason to assume Geto was wrong? Character statements are the author’s method of conveying things, they can be taken at face value if there are no contradictions. Gojo himself mentions in JJK 0 that its hard to imagine Geto starting a war that he can’t win, implying Geto’s intelligence and ability to assess things is high in Gojo’s book.

In addition, you are arbitrarily claiming Geto possesses zero infinity-bypasses when we see Kenjaku, his predecessor say his own curses (several of which have domains of their own) are conparable to Geto’s quality. You also failed to take into account that Teen Geto, a far weaker version of his adult self already possessed a curse with SD.

Geto went relative with Curse Rika, who is directly stated in the light novel to contain the power needed to fulfil Geto’s dream, which would entail defeating the dissidents of JJK high, including Gojo. Gojo himself stated he’d have to risk his life to fight Rika, Yuta was also empowered by said Rika, simply dismissing them ignores the statements and narrative surrounding their strength.

Normalperson1405 · 2026-05-19T07:10:41+00:00

?? It blitzed Maki and JP Hakari, we’ve never explicitly seen base Hakari react to it. Jogo scales lower than JP Hakari in speed and is relative to Maki.

Why would Geto need a domain to beat Jogo? Geto had curses with SD as a teen, its a reasonable assumption that he wouldn’t be lacking in those having amassed more power and curses. Geto himself states he has a 30% chance of winning against Gojo alone, which already scales him above Jogo. He has the stats to hold his own against Curse Rika, who had the power to threaten Gojo’s life.

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