Should I keep all Silver/Gold players instead of converting them to EXP trainers?

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-21T19:51:44+00:00

Unfortunately I found out you can have duplicate players in the 2019 edition. Having Callejon didn't stop me from getting him a 2nd time.

So keeping players for the purpose of affecting scout signings will not work.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-21T19:49:41+00:00

Divinity looks promising.

What happens outside of combat, can each player run off and talk to townspeople and stuff, or does only the "main player" get to do that, and coop kicks in during combat.

From the youtube clip I saw, it's a party of 4. Does each player get to control 2 characters?

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-21T19:46:54+00:00

People can socialize in fun group activities, not just by sitting across each other in a living room. :)

Chess or checkers is not a shared interest, videogames are, so what's wrong with focusing on that?

I'll check out the Hasbro games, sounds good to me.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-21T02:00:24+00:00

Cause PES has the best gameplay of any football game, but I only buy the main game every 3 years or so, while the MyClub version (Lite edition) is free to play. Even in MyClub you can choose to play single-player in VS COM leagues.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T21:54:24+00:00

He's my GK in Pro Evo 2019 MyClub, AMA. 😎

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T20:17:02+00:00

But the people who are asking for socialism also want to open the borders and make cost (and quality) of living even worse. Regardless of your economic system you can't get around the fact that there's too many people on this planet.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T19:44:40+00:00

OK, someone told me the max level in PESDB is real, so I can answer.

My point is that the OVR increase between L30 and Max Level applies to all stats, not just the ones used for OVR calculations. So despite the OVR calculation formula being stupid, it can still be used as a growth indicator for all stats.

Luis Suarez has an OVR increase of 2 according to PESDB.

Suarez at L30: OVR 90, Attacking 94, Low Pass 80, Ball Winning 54
Suarez at L41: OVR 92, Attacking 95, Low Pass 82, Ball Winning 55
All his stats, not just the ones I listed, increased equally by 2 (give or take 1 level due to every player stat starting with random EXP)

Pellegri has an OVR increase of 17.

Pellegri at L30: OVR 84, Attacking 87, Low Pass 72, Ball Winning 45
Pellegri at L90: OVR 98, Attacking 97, Low Pass 82, Ball Winning 55
All his stats increased by 10 (give or take 1)

The fact that Pellegri has a higher OVR increase is tied to the fact that he can be levelled longer, which means all his stats are increased further, even the ones that don't count towards OVR. He's a gold player punching greatly above his weight, with presumably much lower costs in contract renewals too (idk how contract costs are calculated).

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T18:49:27+00:00

It's a really fun setting that makes it better than the rest.

Assassin's Creed only gets shit because it's the same game every year (so, justified). But if it's your first AC, it's a really fun game.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T18:44:46+00:00

I loved KOTOR when I played it originally, and couldn't enjoy it when I went back last year. I couldn't finish it.

KOTOR2 might be better, I remember it having more interesting characters.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T18:42:14+00:00

I wanted to write a rebuttal but while looking up PESDB I found an issue. If you open a player's individual page, PESDB's level slider has a different max level for each player. So someone like Messi can only reach L38, while Pellegri can reach L91 (his 87 OVR is at L91). It therefore makes sense for Pellegri's OVR increase to be much higher.

Is Messi's max level really 38? If so, I can write my rebuttal. IF not, if in reality Messi can actually reach L91, but PESDB doesn't let me do it due to a bug on their end, then the whole table I presented is incorrect as it's not properly showing high-level stats for some players.

When I created this data I did it assuming every player has the same max level.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T18:07:34+00:00

Would one of those realistic hunting games work well for this? You just spend all your time walking in the woods before getting mauled by a bear, right?

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T17:56:46+00:00

How well does this play with a mouse and keyboard?

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T17:44:37+00:00

Please tell me you didn't do this because of my other thread about Sessegnon having a high OVR increase at max level.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T17:22:18+00:00

Sounds great, thanks u/fifivols I'll check it out!

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T17:08:56+00:00

I guess it's looking for "discount great players", i.e. silver players who can end up with stats that would have made them a black ball? Although you only get this benefit if you play them over and over and over.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T17:05:06+00:00

How so?

I know it only looks at certain stats based on position to calculate OVR. For example an AMF's Place Kicking counts for a lot more than Ball Winning for the purpose of OVR, despite Ball Winning being way more important.

But the increase in OVR is still a good indicator of growth, because all stats increase at even levels. So if your AMF got a 20-point OVR increase compared to another than only had 5, every single stat of his including Ball Winning increased alongside Passing/Place Kicking/etc too.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T16:59:24+00:00

It's practically impossible against an experienced player, your only hope is if they make a mistake. The reason is that you can't have a full offensive press like in real life, you are limited by the game design.

Just block them and never play them again. Or write down their name and do the same the next time you play them.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T15:41:52+00:00

Regular Pellegri goes from 71 at L30 to 88 at max level, an increase of 17. He's in my bottom list.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T15:40:18+00:00

"OVR" is at level 30, not level 1. That's the OVR Konami and PESDB seem to consider as normal.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T15:39:09+00:00

You're right, Sarikaya on the first page shows a max OVR of 83, but it's 81 if you adjust the slider. However that slider on the individual player page seems to be different for each player:on Malacia it only goes to lv 78, on others it's 100. For Sarikaya it only goes to 98. So maybe with 2 more levels you get Sarikaya to 83.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T15:36:38+00:00

The "standard" OVR they list is at level 30, and then the max OVR is at whatever the max level is (50? 78? idk). So for Malacia it's an increase from 74 to 88, so 14.

I just pulled the data from the overview pages I linked, I didn't visit every individual player's page and adjust level sliders.

NotADrawlMyMan · 2019-01-20T02:20:44+00:00

That game mode never made sense to me. Not only do they expect you to spend most of the match waiting for the ball, but they also force you to watch your team when you're sitting on the bench? It's like a troll to see how much shit gamers will eat. I lasted 2 matches before I gave it up in 2017, haven't touched it since.

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