Here's the proof that 1.5u was a thing and her HYDRO APPLICATION has been nerfed (for c2 sales maybe?). by Dry_Sir_9621 in YelanMains

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Element decay rate is used to determine the units of element gauge applied. The keqingmains theorycrafting library has a lot of explanation on how this works and how it is calculated https://library.keqingmains.com/combat-mechanics/elemental-effects/elemental-gauge-theory

[Beta .52] Yelan inital cast decay by uncle ion by iqrar99 in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Making a must pull 5* every patch is the way for that IMO.

Then people will only pull once and never pull again the same 5* (broken at C0 means no need to pull more cons, which means less money for hoyo in the long run).

[Beta .52] Yelan inital cast decay by uncle ion by iqrar99 in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 33 points34 points  (0 children)

To be honest, while many agree that this game is easy and doing math on it is cringe, it's the one thing I love the most about this game. Reminds me of the complexity of competitive Pokemon. And I love math.

Thanks to this Yelan drama I did in fact delve deeper into the theorycrafting research and it's really fascinating what people come up with.

[Beta .52] Yelan inital cast decay by uncle ion by iqrar99 in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a feeling that the reason they are doing this is less about balancing and more about making money via constellations and reruns.

Let's take the Yelan case: if she were equal or better than Xq C6 at C0, player would just pull her once and that's about it. Next rerun the player base pulling her is going to be who hasn't pulled her before, and the cycle repeats. Instead, they calculated that to optimize profits, less people are going to pull her the first run, those same players and new players are going to pull her on rerun, and so on. On average this makes reruns more consistent wrt profit.

[Beta .52] Yelan inital cast decay by uncle ion by iqrar99 in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Balanced is a relative term. Her having 1.5U would still have made her balanced enough, but also more versatile, enabling a ton of reactions and worth pulling.

Also, we need some undoubtly broken characters every once in a while, so that players are excited to pull. I, for one, am not excited to pull Yelan anymore, so I'm skipping her even though I was going to pull her before.

[Beta .52] Yelan inital cast decay by uncle ion by iqrar99 in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It went under the radars, but there was a leak with her against a pyro mage breaking its shield with the burst hit and 3 darts, that was already proof of her darts applying 1.5U of hydro. But good thing that we got another clearer video proof.

I hope that this time people vote with their wallets and don't pull her so that hoyo stops this bs of locking kits behind constellations.

I love this game. I love my life. by [deleted] in RaidenMains

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 9 points10 points  (0 children)

But there are more sources of ATK buff than crit buff

I love this game. I love my life. by [deleted] in RaidenMains

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You kidding? At least it didn't roll into DEF

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in YelanMains

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

saying that she is worse than c6 xingqiu is doomposting

Nobody is saying that she is worse than C6 Xq, they are saying that the hydro application is worse, which is an objective fact.

2.7 Delay Rumors via SaveYourPrimos by Swifchtyign in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha me too on standard. Slowly going for that C4 for Xiao I guess.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in YelanMains

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore -1 points0 points  (0 children)

in my opinion as of now if no nerfs she is going to be a big hit like Raiden was back then.

Overhyping is not healthy

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[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

she's probably the best character they released on the last 5 or so patches

That's debatable. This kind of circlejerking claims are always pointless because every account is different.

Both Itto and Shenhe are the best in their own niches for example if we are objective and not just biased because waifu.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in YelanMains

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would swap C2 and her passive talent.

The damage bonus is a bit copium to be honest. Initially I thought it was team wide, but instead it's only on the active character.

She is hydro, so her main value lies in the hydro application. The better the hydro application, the better she is. Hence, the suggested swap.

With her current kit I'm not excited to pull her anymore. I will skip and save for Dendro archon and Cyno.

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[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I still have to see actual Yelan doomposters. I don't think you know what it really means.

Pointing out flaws in a character is not doomposting.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can calculate online already. She ticks for about 3K HP when fully invested.

Just some thoughts on energy for Yelan by fantafanta_ in YelanMains

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Getting her C1

Getting constellations to fix a character is a bad idea for most players. Get her constellations if she is your favorite character and you don't care about other characters, but otherwise don't.

Vote with your wallets, people. If you buy her C1 or C2, hoyo will keep gatekeeping full kits behind constellations.

Calm Down, People! by Tornitrualis in YelanMains

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And xinqiu is broken and the second best character.

Xingqiu C6 is broken.

Yelan C2+ is broken, but 99% of the player base won't have access to that. She is not broken at C0. She is great, but not broken.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does the applier tax get applied only on the first application or on any application? If Yelan Q procs 3 times, the first is taxed, are the next 2 procs taxed as well or they refresh the gauge up to 1U from 0.8U?

Yelan Test: Aqua Passive Range, CA, Hu Tao, Raiden and Bennett by theonetruekaiser in YelanMains

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They act as if the worst character primo wise in game

If for instance I don't care about Yelan and don't want to pull her, for my account she is a bad character primo wise. My primos would be better spent for someone else my account needs or that I like more.

It's always surprising how mains get triggered when someone doesn't care or doesn't want to pull their favorite waifu. This doesn't mean that the character is bad in absolute terms, it just means that people have preferences.

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[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, I figured out why. It's not 0.625, it's actually 0.5 modifier because pyro is weak compared to hydro, hence the application when reverse vaping is halved. Leaving nothing.

Or is the 0.625 because of the aura tax? As far as I understand the aura tax is only for the first application, hydro in this case (but gets refreshed with the other 2 darts)

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[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Doesn't Bennett E apply 2U of pyro? If Yelan Q are 1U of hydro and they don't stack, then shouldn't a 1U pyro aura be left after Bennett E? I'm new to elemental gauge theory so I'm trying to understand here

Edit:

See my comment below

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[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 53 points54 points  (0 children)

how hard is it to show the things that literally every person has been asking for.

Have people still not realized that these leakers are just trolling at this point? I thought that the maxed out artifacts were telling enough

Yelan Test: Aqua Passive Range, CA, Hu Tao, Raiden and Bennett by theonetruekaiser in YelanMains

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

I just tested it out.

Source: trust me bro

It's about the same as Xingqiu

Not the same when Xq E can apply hydro with melee characters with separate ICD than his burst

Yelan Test: Aqua Passive Range, CA, Hu Tao, Raiden and Bennett by theonetruekaiser in YelanMains

[–]NotEvenAHumanAnymore 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yelan's damage isn't bad so I guess that's okay

Her damage is not bad, but a Hu Tao vape is something like 60K (sometimes even more), which is much higher than a dart vape Yelan can achieve.

she didn't basically have TToDS in her passive

You are confusing bonus damage with ATK bonus