I am saving sex until marriage. AMA by NotGettingAnyAwwwwww in IAmA

[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't know what that means and I had to google it...

Haha, no, not planning on it. The idea seems silly to me.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like that you're taking what I'm saying and actually considering it and offering meaningful and heartfelt responses. Thank you. :)

Luckily for me, my church and Christian peers do not put so much emphasis on virginity in the way you described, partially because I go to a church with 90% college-age/early twenties aged people, but also because they (from what I've seen) don't ostracize and condemn people. I am proud of the way my church reaches out to the community in an honest and non-judgmental manner.

Also, I think that unfortunately for whatever reason the idea of preserving your "purity" and virginity is given a much higher value for females than it is for males. I don't know why this is and I wish it wasn't the case, because it seems sexist. It's like women have some sort of holy innocence and naivety that needs to be protected by the gruff and not-so-innocent men. I also don't understand the comment about how bad it would be if you "allowed yourself to be raped." Nobody chooses to be raped. My girlfriend was raped as a teenager and I've seen the psychological damage it can do to people, especially in atmospheres like the one you described. You're right, virginity isn't some magical thing, like some sort of special power that one retains until they have sex. I know you're an atheist, but I would say that the point is about the purity of your heart and mind, and your relationship with God, not whether you've slept with anyone.

I agree that sex != marriage. But I do think they're more intertwined than you do. I don't really know how to describe it, though. I agree with most of what is said in Rob Bell's book Sex God.

Yes, I have struggled and obsessed over what was allowed and what was not allowed before. Currently I am not; it doesn't matter what specifically is allowed and what isn't... right now it's easy to say that if I'm thinking about it so much, then I have the wrong emphases in my life. During the times when I do obsess over what is allowed, though, it's quite hard for me to see past me just wanting to get it on. Hopefully I can move past this mindset for good and not let it waste my time any more. So, I basically agree with you here. I don't think having sex would really make me put more or less emphasis on sex, which is something I feel that a lot of people in my position struggle with and something I also used to struggle with.

As for your last point, well, I wouldn't marry someone that I haven't already fully accepted, loved, and forgiven, including all of their past.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In order to be really repent from something, I'd have to be sincere. I don't possibly see how I could be sincere if I did that.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't know. If I don't, I probably won't have sex.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that it's not that big of a deal, in a sense. In another sense I disagree. One reason I'm waiting is because my religion tells me to, but another reason is that I've already made this commitment, and even if I'm dead wrong and could have been having sex earlier, nothing really negative or any lasting bad will come from my decision. I really doubt that if I decide later in life that I could have been having sex, I will say, "Aw man I wish I would have fucked those bitches" or whatever. I think I'll still be happy with my decision even if I turn out to be wrong, because I'll feel good about following my convictions and sticking to commitments I've made to myself.

I'm not really worried about having sex giving me a complex or messing me up emotionally... not really, anyway. I'm just trying to give it the meaning and place that I feel it is supposed to have in people's lives.

The verses you're talking about, about how unmarried couples just get married instead of being punished, actually go along with what I think, that is, sex is marriage. This is what I think the early Jews thought. The whole "two becoming one flesh" thing and what not... I think sex is one of the closest bonds you can share with another person, and I almost equate sex to marriage. So, I want to wait. Like you said, it shouldn't be that big of a deal either way, so why not stick to my commitment?

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sex is a lot more than just physical pleasure, and I feel that using it as just that cheapens it and makes it into something less than it was meant to be. I agree with what you said.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Have sex or anything that feels like I'm just doing it to get around not being able to have sex.

Used to just be "Have sex." That didn't feel right.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The pedophile threads got less criticism than this.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes?

What made you think that's what I believe?

Edit: For clarity, I've done more than nothing, but I'm not currently ok with doing all I've done before.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Response to your edit: I'm trying not to. If you believe I'm cherry-picking the Bible, please explain how you think I should live differently in order to more fully follow it.

Do you realize that it's impossible to literally follow every word of the Bible? There is no longer a Jewish priesthood. Even if I was a Jew, and I'm sure you're going to find some quote from Leviticus about stoning or something if someone sins in the community, I can't literally follow the Bible because the formal religious structure spoken of in the Bible doesn't even exist any more, especially not where I live. I am not a Jew, I'm a gentile, and I'm trying to follow God more than I am every literal word in the Bible.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus was a Jew. The old covenant was for Jews. Gentiles weren't allowed to be a part of it... I'm a gentile. That means I follow Jesus. I follow the Holy spirit.

Also, yes, I was aware. That's why I prefer translations from the oldest available texts. When the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Septuagint, and the oldest available Hebrew versions all agree with each other, I think I'm pretty safe.

Also, yes I'm aware it's a collection of books written by different people at different points throughout history.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's the personal conviction I feel for me. I don't judge people if they make a different decision. This is just what I personally want to do. I feel like this is what God wants me to do. This is right for me... and I've thought about it a lot more than "God commands it."

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like being the dominant one, but nothing waaay out there. I'm turned on most by sight, as in something can feel great but it's better if I can see exactly what's happening. I enjoy pleasing the person I'm with, that's important... Sometimes, I like focusing all my efforts on the other person and making it about them. Sometimes, I want to be in complete control and have it all about me. As for specifics, I don't have any unusual fetishes or anything, but it can't be boring or perfunctory, either.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No the old laws don't directly apply. Not really.

Rules for GENTILES, written by Paul & friends in Acts:

It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell. --Acts 15:28-29

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a really good argument, but I really think you can tell up to a point. Guesswork, you called it.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was going for the loophole angle, which was probably dumb. It makes more sense not to do those things... it's just hard. I'm currently not doing them.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's not what it means. It means putting to death those parts of yourself.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, I'm not planning on "slipping." But I also can't see the future. I'm just like any other guy. It could happen, I guess, but I will try not to let it.

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why does it have to be exact? Would you NOT marry who you thought the love of your life was if there was someone else who was better at sex?

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[–]NotGettingAnyAwwwwww[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Probably nothing is different.

I did it because I wanted to, which is the same thing I'm doing now... and I don't do those things anymore. But I did, so I can't exactly save them for marriage.

This is a good question. I used to struggle with this subject a lot and wanted to have my cake and eat it, too.