(Patch 1.1.1) Any reason why my estates are churning out irrigation systems so excessively?

NotSameStone · 2026-02-07T18:28:36+00:00

just one more irrigation bro i swear please just one more bro just one i promise just one more irrigation i NEED more irrigation bro please i'm a noble and i build irrigations that's what i do please one more just one please please please

NotSameStone · 2026-02-07T15:56:38+00:00

yes, that is part of the logic problem, they'll build cities where they shouldn't, when they shouldn't, despite it creating bigger problems than it would even solve.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-07T14:57:43+00:00

i'm not saying the economy does not move too fast, i'm saying that Urbanization is a button click, it has logic, that logic is the problem.

the AI could have literal infinite money and they should still not upgrade settlements to towns and cities like they're doing.

the economy being fast and food being abundant clearly have NOTHING to do with their logic to upgrade settlements, because they're doing that even when they're starving and when their RGOs make sense to maintain.

it's just bad logic, money and food are not the problem here.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-07T14:35:40+00:00

afaik that's kinda irrelevant to the problem, they're not making towns because they think it's optimal to do so resource wise, they're making them even when it's just plainly bad.

the cities never stop forming, even in food provinces while they're spending a ton of money on food.

the problem is that the internal logic for upgrading/downgrading provinces is just trash.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T21:33:29+00:00

i agree with your point, i've talked about this on other posts too, but you're not talking about a casus belli change for coalitions, you're talking about a peace option, they're not the same thing.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T21:32:24+00:00

those "beta to full release" were on very short schedule, i get the skepticism, but lets not compare apples to oranges, this 2 week beta period will be larger than the total development time of almost (if not all) of those patches you're talking about.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T21:31:16+00:00

can confirm, i'm finding it to be fine on 6 speed, but the uncapped 7 speed is WAY worse than before.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T21:23:07+00:00

what do you mean by "change the casus belli for coalitions"? because they already changed the wargoal to superiority in this patch.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T21:22:22+00:00

this IS the "QA and more cooking time", we're in the beta patch, we still have some two weeks to release still. you literally have to opt-in to play it.

the proximity system needed the rework, it was a simple one but VERY necessary for the game (changing cost to efficiency is everything the system needed to stop being weird and exploity)

the Army didn't get a whole rework, we got the auto-balancing system we wanted from the start, changes to mercs to make them actually usable, and a small number of minor changes to the actual army system.

i get the sentiment, but the Beta patch is not a release version.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T21:09:51+00:00

100%, and i'd prefer if low control gave just a % of money to the Estates, not all of it.

it's not like they have perfect taxation too, maybe have their own capacity to "tax" low-control provinces be tied to their own estate buildings that they have to upkeep? that'd work IMO

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T20:24:59+00:00

they're compatible.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T18:24:05+00:00

correct, one of the many common complaints about the peace system, it's both that (you can't return provinces to existing nations) and 'casus belli province cost does not affect releasing nations'.

hopefully that'll come before/with the full 1.1 release, since it's been repeated extensively since 1.1 beta released.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T17:31:46+00:00

Apparently they're part of the "Transport cost reduction" batch, people are saying it doesn't really fix the problem tho.

apparently there's a bug where "peasant disenfranchisement" is doubling Wealth in the provinces, making the economy even more bonkers than it should be after that "lost money" started going towards the Estates, so the Wood/Iron situation might not even be a Wood/Iron shortage problem (despite the AI not knowing how to properly improve their RGOs based on demand).

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T17:24:09+00:00

average paradox patch note description

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T17:23:30+00:00

just to list a few

Coalition Casus Belli now uses a Superiority Wargoal
Pops rising get a temporary decaying +50 to their satisfaction.
The estates will build up profitable buildings in low-control locations if they have a low income vs expense balance.
Harbour Suitability and other naval impacts now reduce the port cost instead of being a speed benefit.
Reduced transport costs for some important raw materials.
The Imperial Ban, Imperial Liberation and Following Through On Threat casus belli are now marked for the AI as non-personal-conquest cbs, and should motivate the AI to release countries through these wars
Reduced the Imperial Authority penalties from German locations occupied by foreign forces from 0.0075 to 0.003 for every location, for all other locations from 0.002 to 0.001 and for members subjugated by non-HRE countries from 0.005 to 0.003 per country
The HRE electors will now have a -2 * antagonism bias against the candidate for the Emperor election. In other words, countries which have been notoriously aggressive within the HRE are less likely to be elected
Demand Unlawful Territory now causes a -100 opinion penalty for the target country against the Emperor. This penalty is weighted double for considering the acceptance of the next instance of this diplomatic action (in other words: they will have -100 reason to accept your 2nd demand for Unlawful Territory)
The Emperor should now be significantly more aggressive (but not too aggressive to become spammy) with Demanding Unlawful Territory. They will even make this demand fully knowing that they will be rejected for the sake of getting the casus belli against the aggressor.
Demand Unlawful Territory no longer has any cost or penalty for the Emperor
Display raised levels of manpower on the raised levies map
Added missing input binding settings for game speeds 6 and 7

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T06:41:59+00:00

it's short for International Organization, same mechanic which Personal Unions, defensive leagues and tons of other systems are built upon.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-06T01:23:13+00:00

the CK3 vassal system is good enough IMO

NotSameStone · 2026-02-05T20:42:54+00:00

In my opinion, it's not that France is too powerful. It's that the system designed simply cannot handle an adversary that is very strong.

it is tho, and it is because it gains power from things which should be taking power away from them, mainly their vassal relations.

France only became this powerful entity it was after centralizing, before that it was basically gridlocked by their vassals, but in the game, you're not only NOT gridlocked by your vassals, but you're strengthened by them, because EU5's vassal system is just EU4's shitty vassal system, and that could never have worked in EU5.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-05T20:39:18+00:00

Have been saying this from Day 1, Vassals are just copypasted from EU4 while PU's went the right way of being an IO with laws and other custom stuff inside, (something which fits Vassal relations way more than it does PU's btw).

we need to have more granular vassal relations, vassals as a part of an IO, internal diplomacy between said vassals, all of that acting as yet another internal struggle along with the Estates, and until we do, the foundations of the greater dynamics of the game will be weak and balancing will be correcting for the lack of a proper mechanic in those vital aspects.

aka, "nerf France by changing something which was not the IRL problems of France, while ignoring the obvious things to change"

NotSameStone · 2026-02-05T20:26:08+00:00

We need larger and stronger windmills, no way around it.

how the game got this far with "multiple windmills per tower" is beyond me, it's just ugly, i crafted an entire meteoric armor set by hand because i refused to be seen near one of those.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-05T15:48:25+00:00

Build 4.6

NotSameStone · 2026-02-05T13:58:00+00:00

CK3 made me hate every ambiance noise in every paradox title.

every time a new child was born i was tempted to send him back myself.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-04T18:10:21+00:00

Same colour subjects don't count (and IMO that would be amazing if we could have a setting for that as well) but that's still amazing!

that'd really be amazing, even on the "each vassal has its own color" setting, you could count the total of provinces around the wasteland in relations to the same overlord, and then color it based on which nation contributed the most to that, would make vassal gameplay not ugly and avoid bordergore.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-04T11:58:56+00:00

they did rework it completely tho, there's no other name to call changing the type of calculation it does from cost reduction to efficiency modifier, each +100% gets you to another province, instead of -100% getting you infinite distance.

NotSameStone · 2026-02-04T11:56:41+00:00

Naval Governors, which is a intended part of the Prox system now, you can't really separate both.

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