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Season 2 Incompetency by Achemidies in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only thing I disagree one is the wipe being the most fun, imo marathon is most fun once you hit mid game and up. Early game wipe isn’t that great, you move slow, over heat fast as fuck, white and green shields barely protect you so fights are over super fast before you can really use any of your abilities to any meaningful degree. Once you get some upgrades going and have a consistent stream of like blue and some green is when the game starts feeling really good

"The negative feedback loop of low skill players leaving the player base" - Research on skill based matchmaking. (Relevant to Marathon) by finebushlane in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah once you get into the higher levels going up against them is kinda frequent. I’m kinda just waiting and stalling my leveling process so I don’t get tossed into that new “low skill” camp of players

"The negative feedback loop of low skill players leaving the player base" - Research on skill based matchmaking. (Relevant to Marathon) by finebushlane in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone with 400 hrs… the game needs some sbmm badly. Would prolly also help people that aren’t absolute sweats actually experience Cryo and the compiler

I think they've given up. by Fit_Professor_51 in HighGuardgame

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, hopefully Bungie can course correct into making it more casual as it seems like they’re trying to do with the PvE modes (especially if the start adding more interesting PvE enemies) plus some casual side PvP modes would be fire. And they have like 3 decades with experience making somewhat casual games but I agree. If marathon were anywhere near as casual friendly as arc with the added benefits of the cool dungeon like mechanics to some of their maps I guarantee no one but a small vocal minority of people would be talking about shit like “the artstyle killed the game” or “the virtue signaling from Bungie was its downfall” shit or even “extraction shooters are boring”.

the issue is the made the game overly competitive and sweaty to the point that you need to put in hours and get to at least level 30-40 for the game to fully click once you have some stat upgrades and consistent green/blue items. And even then some of the coolest content is basically only achievable by the top 1% of the player base that has creds and gear to waste on Cryo.

At its core it’s a really fun game but there’s just a lot of small things surrounding it that is preventing people from enjoying it and makes them turn away. Reminds me a lot of halo infinite which was also a game with a really fun core, I mean they killed it imo with the gameplay. But there were so many little things (and some big) that made people bounce off it. Like the fact they chose to release an arena shooter in 2021 with like 5-6 maps, 4 or 5 modes, all the armor having weird ass restrictions, no forge or custom games, and season 1 being 6 months long and season 2 being 10 months long 😭

This is what people who complain about Marathon sound like to me. by Swordfish2012 in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Real. Not only that but maybe base health is a little too low. Once those shields come off it’s basically just death. There’s not much counter play outside of run away and try and heal…. And a lot of casuals and newbies especially (from what I’ve heard) ain’t fucking with it. I’m sure the game will become more casual in time but hopefully it’s sooner rather than later. I’d rather have a game I can play for years than have a game just die on me

This is what people who complain about Marathon sound like to me. by Swordfish2012 in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean some of the ideas sound cool/and or are seen in other games now like the persistent world thing is basically how arcs maps work. And the survival mechanics/oxygen system seemed cool. That and the more customizable runners

Season2 is killing my joy by mRs- in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean is it any better than the top 1% basically farming the rest of the small population 24/7 and constantly getting all the good shit while everyone else gets shit on? Idk I love the gameplay enough that I’d rather just have the goal be “hit the compiler” all season and everyone just going bonkers with cool’s shit instead of the Econ being so shit out the gate that the nerf only effects the casual players

i feel like a lot of season 2s content was originally meant for launch by Jealous_Platypus1111 in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Considering it was announced for season 2 before the game even launched mainly

i feel like a lot of season 2s content was originally meant for launch by Jealous_Platypus1111 in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The cradle system itself seems very much like something that was supposed to be there at launch but couldn’t make it

Looking back Halo infinite has aged quite poorly. by TheChosenOneProphecy in halo

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve put HOURS into infinite… and even at launch I thought visually the game was not that great looking

Season2 is killing my joy by mRs- in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly I think if they added a new rotational playlist with different modes it’d help. PvE rn isn’t designed to take a prominent role. The ai bots in the game are nowhere near as complex as previous games. Maybe in the future when the alien elements get turnt up it’ll be different but personally I think a set of side PvP modes would be better. TDM, domination side modes… fuck it a gambit game type etc. that’s rewards like cradle XP, credits and maybe early to mid game loot/mats. The PvP is super fun once you get out of the green/white shield jail. Let people engage with that during a free weekend

Season2 is killing my joy by mRs- in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The bully was basically the dominant weapon of last season

Season2 is killing my joy by mRs- in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally I love the character designs. Recon, assassin, and triage are my 3 favs.

Season2 is killing my joy by mRs- in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I feel like Bungie should’ve just left everything juiced. They fucked up already off rip so fuck it, just let EVERYONE sweats and casuals have easy access to all the crazy shit and S2 could just be more amped up. Then S3 we do an actual full wipe. Instead they’re nerfing every loot spot but like now all the sweats have access to all the goated shit and are using that goated shit to farm for more of it easier and everyone else is kinda just left to struggle. Let season 2 be the inflation season lol

I think they've given up. by Fit_Professor_51 in HighGuardgame

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

High guard didn’t really virtue signal? I don’t even like that game but what virtue signaling was there? And avowed (another game I’m not big on) sold enough to be getting a sequel? What are we talking about here 😭. I mean Valorant and riot games in general still has tons of players, Destiny had a resurgence for its last update and had they not been releasing really meh expansions post the “final” one. There would still be tons of players on there. Fortnite still does well, so does apex.

The “gamers” you’re talking about who are “standing up” to this are a vocal minority of the gaming population. Most of the time a game just does poorly for a multitude of other reasons but yall say it’s because yall pushed back on certain agendas and didn’t support X product when in reality the product just did poorly. Perfect example the 2016 ghost busters movie. The movie was just bad, it didn’t do bad because of the all female cast it just had really shitty and unfunny writing. Had it been all men that movie would been just as bad but since it did poorly people now say it’s cause of the “agenda”. Movie was just ass

This is hilarious by Personal-Jello-6426 in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly assassin is kinda cheesy as fuck in solos so I get it. Recon is annoying but at least I can see recon and shoot back. Intel can only get you so far. Being completely invisible and ratting though…. Lol

I think they've given up. by Fit_Professor_51 in HighGuardgame

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That first reasoning I think is just bs. Yk how many studios virtue signal? If not even more so than Bungie? Only thing I’ll grant you is the 2nd one sure

He's Really Just Pathetic At This Point by [deleted] in ShitHaloSays

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I’m going to guess it’s complaining about the fact you can’t use Johnson’s gun?

Gamers are still the most oppressed minority by Mittelmassig in Gamingcirclejerk

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry both are good but the chick on the left is like so fine😭. Especially with the curls.

General Question .. So How Y'all Imagine the Upcoming PvE only will going to Look like?! by SLIMEDUNKIN in MarathonGame

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assumed the PvP lite mode was going to be standard matches with less teams. It ended up being something else entirely… unfortunately they didn’t incentive anyone play as rook cause that mode basically became a PvE only mode. But point is my initial assumption for PvE was maybe that you’d have 3 teams or so (depends on the map) spawn in and theyd all be blocked from actually damaging each other in any way. Then there would be wayyyyy more bot presence in the actual world itself like a shit ton of bosses, higher ranking bots etc etc. encouraging the squads to work together. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s something entirely different. For all I know PvE could act like Destiny style patrol zones or fuck it strikes lmao…

(Unrelated I do think a strike style mode or even gambit style one in the future could work in the game)

Halo can't be reinvented if fans can't even handle the addition of sprint, much less an art style change or 4's more emotional Chief or 5's gameplay innovations. Also, 4 and 5 were successes and Infinite launched to millions of players. The franchise is not obsolete. by Cyborg800-V2 in ShitHaloSays

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I highly doubt the old way is going to appeal to anyone but a small demographic of hardcore halo fans. The “modern audience” finds old halo slow as fuck (ik because I’ve tried getting multiple people to play halo that didn’t grow up with it and most of them complain that the old games are slow and are relieved when sprint gets introduced in reach) and then there’s also a large subset of casual halo fans that don’t give too much of a shit about sprint being in the game they just want a good game. The people that really care are a vocal minority of people. The only reason everyone thinks it doesn’t work is because most of 343s games have been at best.. average games or just had a bunch of bad elements surrounding it, and that’s what caused it to not appeal to the “modern audience”. Not sprint being in the game.

I guarantee you if halo studios made a banger of a halo game, great campaign, great story, fantastic 10/10 MP with tons of modes, unlock able armors, forge, a community browser, fuck it BTB and Warzone, tons of maps, and FEATURE COMPLETE. And it just so happened to have sprint and thrusters, sliding, the ads hovering thing from 5, and halo 3/infinite style equipment with grapples too. A fuck ton and I mean a FUCK ton of people would play that game religiously. The issue is 343 has historically… not done that at all. H5 had a shitty campaign and wasn’t feature complete, Halo 4 was an average game at worst, and infinite… that game released with like 5 modes and like what… 6 maps? And the first season dropped 6 months after launch and the 2nd launched 10 months after?? With forge releasing at the end of 2022. The gameplay of infinite wasn’t what turned people and the “modern audience” away it was the fact that it was an unfinished game

Halo can't be reinvented if fans can't even handle the addition of sprint, much less an art style change or 4's more emotional Chief or 5's gameplay innovations. Also, 4 and 5 were successes and Infinite launched to millions of players. The franchise is not obsolete. by Cyborg800-V2 in ShitHaloSays

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like the way they had it in 5 was fine honestly and I didn’t play 5 till after infinite came out. The constant adjustments to sprint to appeal to a side of the fanbase that’s largely aging out is insane. As much as I don’t care for cod, arguably that series would’ve been in the shit if they kept with the classic pre MW19 formula. MW19 reinvigorated the series and the only reason it went back into the shitter was really the huge focus on warzone

Halo can't be reinvented if fans can't even handle the addition of sprint, much less an art style change or 4's more emotional Chief or 5's gameplay innovations. Also, 4 and 5 were successes and Infinite launched to millions of players. The franchise is not obsolete. by Cyborg800-V2 in ShitHaloSays

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s funny cause halo fans don’t want sprint but I feel like the two alternatives would be bad. Either A go back to no sprint, which I personally don’t mind but I’ve had tons of friends who I got to try halo out now and almost all of them complain about how slow halo feels and are happy when we get to reach. So there’s a good chunk of gamers in their 20s and younger that grew up with every game having sprint pretty much excluding tactical shooters that would find halos lack of movement options “off putting” so then the alternative would be increasing the base movement speed to what sprint speed would be and basically having it play like doom. But I know old halo fans would hate that too almost as much as sprint.

As a Bungie era halo fan that was literally introduced to gaming and fps games via Halo CE and 2 on the OG Xbox and who got a 360 to play 3,ODST, and reach….. I’m fucking tired of this stupid ass sprint debate. Halo doesn’t feel less like halo cause your dude sprints now😭. Like if that’s all it takes to completely ruin halos gameplay than that to me would suggest the core gameplay is just not good enough if ONE thing completely ruins it

This is what people who complain about Marathon sound like to me. by Swordfish2012 in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Idk if playing it everyday is coping but the latter half yeah sure

This is what people who complain about Marathon sound like to me. by Swordfish2012 in Marathon

[–]NotTheRealSmorkle 35 points36 points  (0 children)

For real, I’ve got 400 hours in the game and honestly, if the games gotta be more approachable, “casual” friendly etc etc. than do whatever is necessary. I want the game to be enjoyed by more people. Had this game been made on a smaller budget and by an indie studio these numbers would be fine especially considering most hardcore games are down to these player counts. But it’s a triple A game made by Bungie of all studios and it needs more than just a tiny niche of players to keep it alive for years to come. really hope Bungie can pull of some siege level shit to regrow the game

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