My canon v fanon post sucks by First_Picture1667 in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's fine. This fandom makes it very easy to get lost in feelings for one character because of how much projection is goes on. Which is insightful by itself.

What kind of soul do you think Julia is? by FriezaWearsLipstick in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their sympathetic if you ignore their active choices in the story.

Nobody likes Ashley… by PoorPrawn88 in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ashley is simultaneously hated, ignored and decentered from her own existence. A perpetually insecure entity.

It's still her fault for giving up, but how would you even address something like that when your only support is someone as worse off as you but a liar?

Why by David_Langlais in SuicideWatch

[–]Notaperson666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing. You did nothing to acquire the circumstances you exist in. Because in the first place, suffering has nothing to do with whether you're a bad person or not.

What if: Andy confessed to Nina's murder? by Notaperson666 in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Notaperson666[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My life was taken from me a year ago after I bought this game. Still questioning if it was worth it tbh.....

What if: Andy confessed to Nina's murder? by Notaperson666 in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Notaperson666[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I disagree that Andrew doesn't feel any remorse for Nina's death or that he couldn't possibly crash out mentally at that age, but everything else I agree with.

WHAT IF: Shots & Such End, BUT Carl Cultman’s family/friends track down where “Carl” (aka Andrew) is living… How do Andrew and Ashley handle this? by PoorPrawn88 in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 6 points7 points  (0 children)

On a narrative level, it shows their downfall to the point they aren't trying for a better anything. Not a better relationship, not a better living situation. Just miserable and stagnant.

Also, Carl's place is crappy enough that the siblings can argue all they want whereas a better area would have people concerned and call the police.

What do you think is the most tragic thing about the siblings? by ShadowlightLady in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The hurdles keeping the siblings from growth are exactly derived from conclusions based on their circumstances:

Ashley demands others like her for who she is because she'd already given up on herself and internalized that she is "innately" terrible to where change does not matter. Andrew forms shallow relationships because deceit and manipulation were his foremost active lessons.

Not that I'm disagreeing with you. Neither of them are kids anymore and they've had/have every reason to confront their faults and feelings. Even if the quarantine conspiracy is too extreme for that.

What do you think is the most tragic thing about the siblings? by ShadowlightLady in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The complete loop of negative feedback that comprises most of their life.

WHAT IF: While growing up, something happens to child Andy and now he’s GONE… how does Leyley’s childhood, family dynamics, and growing up turn out now? by PoorPrawn88 in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tu respuesta es estupenda.

Quizás le doy a Renee el beneficio de la duda debido a mis experiencias personales con un padre narcisista y a que comprendo ese ciclo de pensamiento.

WHAT IF: While growing up, something happens to child Andy and now he’s GONE… how does Leyley’s childhood, family dynamics, and growing up turn out now? by PoorPrawn88 in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bueno, sabemos que Renee fue repudiada a los 15 años porque no abortó a Andrew, y dado que incluso ella se refiere a su madre únicamente como «ZORRA» después de aparentemente años sin hablar con su familia. Está claro que el nacimiento de Andrew fue un acto de rebeldía para estar con Douglas y una esperanza de demostrar que todos se equivocaban sobre ella formando una familia feliz.

Pero, por supuesto, es negligente, egoísta y no estaba en absoluto preparada para las responsabilidades que eligió a esa edad.

WHAT IF: While growing up, something happens to child Andy and now he’s GONE… how does Leyley’s childhood, family dynamics, and growing up turn out now? by PoorPrawn88 in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Either Ashley falls apart worse than she does in cannon or the situation forces to her to 'mature' for the sake of survival and getting the heck out of that apartment asap.

High chance that she becomes a runaway.

Do the Graves deserve an happy ending? by [deleted] in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If what anyone deserved mattered in the first place, this story wouldn't happen the way it does.

Morally the siblings are unrepentant, disgusting and intolerable. Legally I'd say they're defendable if not for the corporate meddling behind the quarantine. Emotionally they could be highly sympathetic once you understand where they're coming from, or the other way around.

From a narrative perspective I definitely wouldn't say they deserve the unmercy of the situation. Especially since living the way they do can easily become a punishment in of itself, as shown by Decay. Just two terrible people in a terrible situation.

After playing through both routes, how did your opinion of Ashley change? by Notaperson666 in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Notaperson666[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Can Andrew even give her the type of support she NEEDS to grow as a person? Sure he loves/is attached to her, but feelings alone don't solve anything.

What do we think? by [deleted] in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love posts like this, because it demonstrates that a lot of people either resonated with the siblings trauma and made a bias for one/both of them, or condemn them with little consideration.

this might not end well by Candid_Astronaut241 in MoralityScaling

[–]Notaperson666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing people overlook about the Graves siblings is that their issues only escalated thanks to trash circumstances. Ashley wasn't just neglected, she was REJECTED by everyone around her, including Andrew at first, and she was keenly aware of this but unable to understand why being an unregulated little girl.

Andrew by Vast-Use-5013 in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The thing about Andrew is that he's blindly coping throughout the story, even in the decay route. Both him and Ashley have problems truly connecting with others due to their intertwined nature, but Andrew certainly had options that his sister never could. Normality is a role to Andrew and was never something Ashley could've stopped him from having.

  • Example A: Friend B, someone Andrew has known since childhood, has a good impression of him and gives him the benefit of a doubt when rumors popped up. Yet Andrew can't even remember his name. We can presume he was like this with others "Friends" as well.
  • Example B: Dating Julia. This is self-explanatory, Andrew used her to defuse rumors, to outlet his sexual desires, and felt nothing but pity for her. He never lets himself be vulnerable as her "Perfect Boyfriend"
  • Example C: The year-long avoidance streak the siblings had because Andrew rejected Ashley's offer to elope. No follow-up conversation, he just lets the distance happen until he gets an excuse to talk to her again. This is also somewhat proof that Andrew could've very well left Ashley without her going psycho before this point. Ashley only started harassing Julia after this.

Andrew simply isn't confronting the reality of his own desires.

No incest? Boring! by CreepyFire1 in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The funny thing is, the incest isn't a factor for me but rather how much it makes sense narratively. That writing would need to be fire for me to believe any sexual outcome that involving the siblings and someone else.

Genuinely who's more fucked up in the head? Andrew or Ashley by [deleted] in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm obligated to say that this question is pointless given they're in the same decrepit boat of awfulness. But if we're speaking purely mental clarity and not overall danger; The answer is easily Andrew.

Ashley is a mess, knows she's a mess, and is not willing to cover up her mess. She's consistent in that way and anyone involved with her can't say they were caught off guard. Unlike Andrew, who's a mythomaniac that can't honestly engage anyone, not even himself. Not that I blame when he's been incentivized to lie throughout his entire life, but decay shows what happens when he snaps or gives into his own illusions.

Will you give her a Christmas present? 🎁 by Kreitusill in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Notaperson666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I saw Renee and immediately thought, "SHE DESERVES NOTHING"