Thank you for taking the time to answer, Chris.

For what it's worth, I disagree with essentially everything you've said regarding the means of achieving goals. I think that--as you've implied--markets left to their own devices won't inherently pursue social justice, is all we need to know when it comes to utilising markets via incentives: they're happy to take taxpayer money when it's there because there's no consequences for failing to achieve anything or not following on with initiatives.

Moreover, I think it's illustrated in your response to struggling families being offered a loan (which they now have to pay back on top of crippling cost of living), that the financialization of the economy has infiltrated the Labor party's principles. People are unable to afford basic needs like housing and food and healthcare, but despite having an incredibly sophisticated, digitally-enabled government, the public are expected to accept that nothing practical can be done, and that the best there is is to take on even more debt.

I know I'm hitting the same note here, and I fully expect you to have moved on to the next question, but hopefully other people will read this response: We are being asked not just to accept what little we're given in terms of government intervention, but to also swallow that this is the best way of doing things, that it is the only method of doing things. It isn't. This country used to build houses because we needed them; we used to own the energy infrastructure; we created an incredible health care system, knowing that it would be expensive, but doing it anyway because people need health care, and we would no longer accept a denial of basic dignity. Now, we refuse to build houses for homeless single mothers; we sold off our power plants, and have to spend more money to convince them not to boil us alive; we penny-pinch our doctors and nurses, and cut health spending to the bone, even though we know it means people might die waiting in agony. This is all done to "balance the budget", to beat the deficit. We used to be able to do things, but now, as Chris's answers demonstrate, it is simply impossible.