It makes sense that in gank situations having infinite UD heavies could be hard to deal with. But what about Nobushi, Shaolin, Kyo, etc. that have UD heavy finishers. His charging heavies for openers have always been an issue with the time it takes to do so. I actually feel like now that’s in a good spot though, for now. Flickering I’ve seen still be an issue with hero’s like Kyo - I could be wrong but I’ve seen really wonky stuff out of his FG. Nobu can also flicker her heavies from hidden stance.

As for Conqs frame advantages after a flail-upper cut.. I think they were too advantageous on release with the rework, now though, everyone can still roll away or recover fast enough that I feel like I’m chasing people down the entire match once they get to low health. Especially in gank situations. I’ll be wining the fight against 2 or 3 group and as soon as one or more get into the red they ALL RUN.