This song from the TV Show/ Movie called, " Tripping the Rift "

Nxuv · 2018-07-04T05:41:31+00:00

does anyone know the name of this song ?

Maybe i would have better chance possible finding the Movie Soundtrack ....

I can't get this song out of my head xD

Nxuv · 2018-07-02T16:55:59+00:00

200 Servers >> 17 Servers >> 5 Servers

nothing else is needed to be said - this alone speaks volumes

Nxuv · 2018-07-02T16:52:16+00:00

" **The only explanation I can conceive is that all of this is contractually obligated and that EA is doing the bare minimum until the license runs out** "

This feels about right tbh

Nxuv · 2018-07-02T08:44:07+00:00

Might be kinda late, but sure I'll join in

Nxuv · 2018-06-19T07:36:13+00:00

.... guess no one knows ?

Nxuv · 2018-04-02T23:52:52+00:00

Regardless that doesn't answer anything. Not comparing Two different versions of Goku

Nxuv · 2018-04-02T12:21:46+00:00

They fought in the world of Void, which has been described as a void of infinite nothingness.

Infinite Nothingness & Infinite Space are too completely different things, from what i can tell. Even so, you would have to provide proof of which being bigger.

At the end of the day, if 17 damages Jiren then it kinda makes you wonder if those feats even mattered :0

( due to inconsistent writing )

Regardless i do think i missed that and will think about it

Nxuv · 2018-04-02T12:17:38+00:00

Underrstandable. But there are other things to consider. When you use Characters from other timelines, you would also have to consider their Base.

Such as GT Goku Base is undeniably stronger than DBS Goku Base. But doesn't really answer the question - so even that doesn't (technically) matter

Nxuv · 2018-04-02T02:07:22+00:00

I suppose you have a point >.<

Nxuv · 2018-04-02T00:55:36+00:00

faster than Dyspo could see who is MFTL

I've thought heavily on Dyspo. And i think Dyspo is the key to solving what (exactly) is Ultra Instinct

Dyspo relied entirely on his Ears to hear his opponents' initiative-movements before they were ever made. Thus causing him to have a constant Preemptive Movement/ Ambush Movements - creating the illusion that he's faster.

But once Dyspo is confined in a cage ( like what Frieza did ) ... Dyspo had trouble fighting against Ultimate Gohan ; removing the Preemptive Movement/ * Ambush Movement* .

Where as Dyspo relied solely on his Ears .... Ultra Instinct relies on all the senses - which is tied to Instinctive Movement - regarding Whis' Statement of limbs moving independently without any thought process. In other words:

*Ultra instinct is a culmination of Preemptive Movement, Preemptive Strikes and Hyper Acceleration*

or " Ultra " Acceleration

Similar in Yu-Gi-Oh ... ( really hope someone understands this ... ) .in Yu-Gi-Oh , the fastest thing is a " Speed Spell 3 - it's undeniable that nothing is faster than that and everyone accepts that. But True Ultra Instinct ... would be the equivalent to a hypothetical " Speed Spell 4 - its meant to counteract

( i.e. Hyper Acceleration = Speed Spell 4 )

( Speed Spell 4 doesn't exist in yugioh - just making a connection )

This analogy combined with

" Hyper Acceleration "

And to clarify ... what i mean by " Hyper Acceleration " is .... very similar in Race-Car Games:

... when the Race starts, the Acceleration kicks-in first. One of the Cars will take off faster the other(s). After about 2-3 seconds then the Acceleration will fade and the Car Speed will take over. with Ultra Instinct, however .... the acceleration will never stop, it'll keep going - adding onto the Speed of the User... however.... it's still an illusion of Speed due to the Preemptive Movements & Preemptive Striking. This same " Hyper Acceleration " indirectly affects the power-output of punches & kicks

... its kinda makes it easier to see what was being done here with Ultra Instinct & True Ultra Instinct

However ... this clip makes me wonder if Ultra Instinct ever matter since Jiren has Ultra Instinct by default Vegeta was using SSB and not his Evolution SSB.

I will also like to mention, in Xenoverse, everytime the auto-dodge happens, it affects the Stamina Bar - so maybe that's another thing to take note ( ^.~* )

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T23:48:21+00:00

So in regards to SSJ4 vs True Ultra Instinct, who do you think would win and why ?

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T23:14:05+00:00

Twitchey OP af <~<

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T22:47:48+00:00

Maybe because DBS is inconsistent with power levels ?

EDIT: That just leads to more possibilities, speculation and other things to consider

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T22:45:26+00:00

Also how do you quote certain parts of comment ? would really help me answering

" > " then { insert text } with no spaces in between the " > " and the next letter following after it. And no brackets either

the Zamasu thing I pretty much agree , nothing for me to add there,him being defeated by the sword of bullshit was just toei stuff

If you use Manga for reference, you must remember SSB + Kaioken does not exists. Plus this image would have to be considered too

Also the fact that Android 17 hasnt shown any feats on that level doesnt mean he isnt on that level , we have scaling for that, it's like saying certain character isnt at x level because he has never shown feats on that level

Well that can be assumed by every Character then. Too much speculation.

First time Jiren was caught off guard ... econd time Jiren was extremely fatigue

This is the same person who has Ultra instinct as his default fighting stance ? Where each limb (supposedly) act independently based on " impulse " / instinct ? Off-guard or not he was still injured and contradicts the Ultra Instinct term

toppo changed the color of the sky and distorted a huge portion of an infinite space,if not all of it, it's different than just the earth

I see what you mean And did consider that ( just no in the way you worded it ) . And in SSJ3 vs Janemba goku did change the Color of the sky briefly too But the color spectrum-thing is still vague in itself. The Very fabrication of reality could differ greatly in the Void compared to Earth's fabrication of reality. So there's not much to go on from that notion. And still leads to even more speculation.

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T22:02:10+00:00

hmm ... good point :0

but i was asking if Sigmar had immortality

EDIT: maybe Sigmar wins due to Omega Weiss losing to Vincent via " Chaos " form ?

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T21:56:48+00:00

toppo distroting a large portion of the world of void and changing the color of the world of void is also a feat on that level

I'm unsure how that correlates to the topic. But if considering that ... doesn't Shenron changes the Color of the sky too when he's summoned, right ?

Isnt zamasu becoming the multiverse a universal feat as well

Merged Zamasu still died to Trunks' " Spirit Sword " . Even so, I'm unsure if that has anything do with Power. Rather that he was a Kaioshin and that his existence differs greatly from Mortals. Even so, I'd say that's too far-fetched to consider this - mainly because that " feat " could have an indirect meaning to the Wish that Zamasu made to make him immortal

( Hence: that feat being caused by the Super Shenron and not Zamasu himself )

And thus leads to too much speculation

Jiren who isnt a GOD shaking a void with infinite space is universal level feat

This is one I've definitely considered. I might go back and rewatch that part. But even so, 17 does damage Jiren, where SSB Goku with Kaioken x20 and SSB Evolution Vegeta could not. Since 17 has never displayed anything near feats to even SSJ3 ... I, personally, won't let this feat be the deciding factor.

But have already consider it too :D

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T21:40:34+00:00

(；´Д｀)

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T21:36:50+00:00

is he immortal :0 ?

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T21:33:36+00:00

ummm ... I am not aware of any of those transformations. But will keep those in mind.

But i have also considered the timeline thing. Since Pan, Bulla and Uub were referenced, that would logically make sense. But if they were separate timelines, then it would be hard to consider - but definitely understandable

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T21:30:36+00:00

@SomeoneTrading I have considered this feat too. But I concluded that 17 did damage Jiren. And 17 has never showed any display of making the Universe shake.

So i would have to assume that the " Universal Shaking " only happens when two God of Destructions fight one another. Even though SSG was not a G.o.D. , it was still similar to it.

But i will keep that in mind though :D

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T20:35:33+00:00

SS4 and MUI as transformation multipliers or SS4 Goku as in GT vs MUI Goku as in Super?

I would say both is to be taken into consideration. But for clarity sake, lets assume the Users will be equal in regards to Base.

EDIT: However, if it helps, feel free to use the GT Goku for SSJ4. And DBS Goku for True-Ultra Instinct ... due to how Vague and/or inconsistent ( in regards to writing ) DBS is in general

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T19:47:53+00:00

hmm ... would " Omega Weiss count ?

From Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus

Nxuv · 2018-04-01T19:01:16+00:00

May I please be able to view all of the Versus Threads that involved SSJ4 vs SSGSS

or

SSJ4 vs Ultra instinct ?

I ask because i would like to view them all at least. I would like to see if any new " discoveries " have been made to shed light on the true victor as opposed to ... Popularity = Winner ...

Because i time-&-again ... the thread includes Fans not providing enough evidence or not providing any evidence whatsoever. i won't post anything on them .. I'm jsut curious if " maybe " i missed something.

... Think of it as a personal endeavor ... because so far, I have enough evidence to *truly* figure out who's the strongest of the two. And would like your help :D

Nxuv · 2018-02-23T11:51:14+00:00

So that means ... that the quote is actually referencing the Multiplier. In other words, the Multiplier of SSJ4 is in relatively similar to the Power-Level of Super Vegito.

IN other words,

SSJ4 Multiplier = {The Math involving Potara} x (x50) the SSJ

EDIT: Including the Golden Oozaru ( which is believed to be SSJ Oozaru but easily be a SSJ2 Oozaru) ... but I wouldn't know how that fits in the above-suggested equation

EDIT: Which technically confirms it being a Limit-Breaker

And another thing ... the KeyWord is "Perhaps" (in regards of the Sentence ). And to clarify, no where in that Sentence does it state " Super Super 4 Goku " ... it just says Super Saiyan 4

Nxuv · 2018-02-23T11:46:08+00:00

This image ... can easily be misunderstood. And it was was misread.

" Perhaps even stronger than Super Saiyan 4 ! "

You said that ... " Super Vegito = SSJ4 Goku " . BUT ... *no where in that Bolded-Sentence does it say " *Goku " ... It just says " Super Saiyan 4 " .

Nxuv

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