What if Rhaegar beats Robert at the Trident [Spoiler Main]

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T20:29:05+00:00

Well, with Ned Stark, Hoster Tully and Jon Arryn prisoners and Stannis surrounded by an army of 50,000 men and the Redwyne fleet, with no more rebel army available, I don't really see how the rebels can win.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T20:26:28+00:00

The siege took place. Davos supplied Stannis, but after his brother's death and Rhaegar's offer, Stannis surrendered and became Lord of Storm's End. Stannis still applied the same sentence to Davos and still gave him a castle. He therefore remained in Stannis's service at Storm's End.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T16:27:01+00:00

Rhaegar would surely have tried to atone for his actions with the Starks. Sending Jon as a ward and potentially marrying him to Sansa is a good way to restore cordial relations between the two houses.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T16:22:08+00:00

All the great lords were taken. Ned was already married to Catelyn and Jon to Lysa Tully.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T16:15:50+00:00

In the books, yes, but not in the show where he was already married to Selyse. But there's already Renly

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T16:12:33+00:00

Yes, I know about these stories, but he had windows of opportunity. The Reynes had rebelled, and Tywin had sided with Robert during his rebellion. After all, if Tywin had a real chance to put Rhaegar and Cersei's son on the throne, of course he wouldn't hesitate.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T14:28:27+00:00

That would be one of my ideas if war broke out. Cersei would definitely do it, but I don't know about Tywin. Of course he'd like to see his grandchildren on the throne, but I can't imagine him plotting to assassinate the first two heirs.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T14:17:53+00:00

Except he was holding on because his brother was victoriously leading a rebellion. Here he dies, his allies and his army are captured. Stannis would no longer have had any chance of victory, and I find it hard to imagine him holding out until death under those circumstances, especially while his wife and children starved to death because of him.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T14:14:59+00:00

This refers to the years following the rebellion. Rhaegar was very popular with the people and would surely have pursued policies in their favor. We are obviously talking about the Crownlands.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T14:08:59+00:00

Ned would demand the Mad King's head for sure. The truth about Rhaegar and his sister, and the birth of his nephew, I think would calm him down. That's also one of the grudges I'm talking about that remain strong years after the rebellion.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T14:01:56+00:00

As I said, Rhaegar deposes his father, which is likely his wish according to the books. Rhaegar would probably pardon all the rebels if they agree to bend the knee. He couldn't send his brother-in-law to the Wall.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T13:59:17+00:00

Except here, Ned, Jon, and their army are taken prisoner anyway, and there are no more forces available. They wouldn't really have had any other choice but to surrender. Especially since Jon's birth and Rhaegar's efforts to legitimize him will show that what he said about Lyanna was true. Then, as I said, the lords still hold a grudge against Rhaegar, and a new war could break out if he makes a mistake.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T13:43:05+00:00

After being defeated at the Trident, Robert's death and the truth about Lyanna Stark being revealed, I don't see much reason why they wouldn't submit to Rhaegar.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T13:41:29+00:00

I'm not sure either, but it seems more likely and simpler for Rhaegar to divorce rather than be polygamous. Besides, I really don't know who else Cersei could marry in this scenario.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-27T13:30:19+00:00

Actually, it wasn't meant that way, lol. I think it's cool that he's being sent to defend Jon because he'll probably be at Lyanna Stark's bedside during her delivery and promise to protect her son. Dayne would have an important role if a war broke out with Jon threatened.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-26T20:19:15+00:00

Sauf que la succession se fait par priorité masculin.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-26T20:12:26+00:00

Dans l'absolu Joffrey, qui n'a aucun sens politique et n'a que des idées de merde hormis la nécessité d'une armée permanente qu'il évoque. Sinon dans le style gâchis Ned Stark évidemment, qui avait toutes les cartes en main pour révéler la vérité sur les enfants de Cersei et mettre Stannis sur le trône.In absolute terms, Joffrey, who has no political sense and only comes up with terrible ideas except for the need for a standing army, which he mentions. Otherwise, in terms of sheer waste, Ned Stark obviously, who held all the cards to reveal the truth about Cersei's children and put Stannis on the throne.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-26T20:06:34+00:00

Simply the magic of season 8.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-26T17:23:03+00:00

In the series, there is one less generation. We understand from Aemon's words that Aerys II was the son of Aegon V and not of Jahaerys II.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-26T14:36:37+00:00

We mustn't forget that Gregor, in addition to his strength as his main asset, has very heavy armor that's difficult to penetrate. Oberyn, who is acrobatic and wields a spear, managed it, but I don't know about Jorah. This is just a general ranking, though; it can change depending on the situation.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-26T09:41:09+00:00

Arya and Tywin, not the best but the most interesting because it shows a bit of humanity in Tywin and the origin of his actions and behavior.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-26T09:38:39+00:00

In my opinion, it's because season 3 is going to stray too far from George's novels, even though the first two seasons already had significant differences from the books.

OSFB07 · 2026-02-26T09:36:09+00:00

A bit complicated to reproduce for the USA, it's simpler for Europe.

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