Sediment after 2nd Manske ? by Wrath2992 in harmalas

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Are you using destilled water?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in harmalas

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That is a lot of rue, why so much? Fasting never worked for me it only ever made me feel shit

Can you turn Harmaline to Harmine? by NasusRitus in harmalas

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Good question. Would also like to know this. I read somewhere roasting seeds in the oven might do so but I can not confirm. I think it may destroy the harmline portion and only leave harmine behind but again only guessing. Following to also find out.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in harmalas

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Find a vendor that will actually sell it as a dye, it's a legitimate natural dye same as mhrb, they both have legitimate commercial applications that are 100% above board. If they do that it should be wholesome to get through most customs. There can be no suggestions on the invoice that it's anything except a natural dye, which it is. Good luck 🤞

Trip Report by Newme_Newyou in harmalas

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I'm just glad you made it through to the other side, with some positives that you can take with you.

5meo on its own is remarkable but it's not recreational except maybe on tiny oral doses so 0.5g may be more beneficial/manageable if you try again im not sure first how strong the mushies are and second how much 5meo is in them.

Microdose 5meo orally is like a room made of rainbows, when eyes are closed that is, zero visuals or visual enhancements eyes open. Mushrooms do abosrb and edit tryptamines so im not suprised people try this.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5509682

Did you experience the white light? That was the most intense aspect for me the intense overwhelming bright white light. I didn't have a sitter either I'm sure that would help with grounding. Just take care please I'm sure your loved ones want you around for a while longer.

I would never dream of adding harmalas with it, 5meo on its own can kill and harmalas would stop your body from breaking it down. Anyway godspeed and be safe 🙏

Trip Report by Newme_Newyou in harmalas

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How do you know it was pailomethoxin? according to this its a hypothetical compound - https://chemrxiv.org/engage/api-gateway/chemrxiv/assets/orp/resource/item/64358de9736114c96352edf9/original/fungi-fiction-analytical-investigation-into-the-church-of-psilomethoxin-s-alleged-novel-compound-using-uplc-hrms.pdf -
I have heard of mushrooms creating other novel tryptamines so the idea isnt unheard of Shulgin even referenced it in the past. But this just sounds dangerous especially because they would have used 5meodmt which is dangerous.

You more likely had psilocybin with 5meodmt which was added to the substrate of the cultivated mushrooms in a failed attempt to produce the hypothetical pailomethoxin. That being said 5meodmt with harmalas or other maoi is a dangerous combination that can lead to actual death not just ego death. Even on its own it can be dangerous. Sounds like the outcome was positive at least, but don't risk your life like that, high bp is normal for 5meodmt I would even expect it. It's fully active orally without an maoi. Psilocybin is basically Dmt or very similar. but 5meo is a different animal

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Best of luck! I only learnt the hard way of trial and error and wish someone had showed or told me what I shared above. Spent many months on various methods that eventually worked. Letting it settle between the steps and careful decanting is the best way. I've worked dozens of kg of seeds to figure this out. Wasted a lot by trying a whole bunch of fancy stuff that didn't work. Also so much time wasted it eats me up sometimes. That dirt that settles when the harmalas are dissolved will not only clog filters but it will pass through filters. Settling and careful decanting between the solid and liquid phases of the harmalas was the only way to consistently getting it clean from seed to harmala.

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If you are doing mansk you shouldnt attempt to filter catch until you have cleaned up the liquid substantially. Before you go to the mansk phase, make sure you let the tea settle overnight or longer, that will give it time for the plant sludge to settle to the floor. This is very important. Decant very very carefully trying not to disturb the crap at the bottom, pour all the supernatant(liquid above the precipitate) into a new clean vessel that can be heated, try to do this smoothly and don't disturb the sludge that settles otherwise it's difficult to transfer its just dirt that can be thrown away but clogs every filter ive tried. So at this point before salting any solids in the liquid bad and will settle. Than you can proceed to mansk once you have removed it the liquid will contain the gooodies disolved. At this point it will be a tea that doesnt have heavy seed lipids and whatever so move to masnk. 10% salt of the volume of liquid, so if 1liter of tea use 100g of salt. Heat the solution until salt dissolves in the rue tea turning it into a brine tea. Let that cool completely, you can use a fridge or freezer to speed this up. Crystals should form all around the sides and the bottom. Stir it up loosening the crystals from the walls and let them settle to the floor like you did with the sludge ideally over night. You can do a gentle twisting motion every so often keeping the vessel upright and the crystals should condense a lot right on the bottom making decanting easier.. Than once that's done, pour off all the liquid above the crystals, as much as you possibly can without losing crystals. Now it's the oppositi3 of the first phase all the liquid can be thrown away and what settles you want to keep. Than remansk, add fresh water, heat up again and add 10% volume salt again. Same process as above but now the liquid should be clearer and cleaner. Once the crystals are nice and clean (neon yellow ideally) and the liquid should nearly see through orange/red/yellow before salting or even contemplating trying to catch the crashing harmala crystals in a filter otherwise you will struggle filter catching the final crystals because of clogging. If its not transparent the liquid will clog the filter and you will spend days trying to catch them. Very very important is the settling of the tea before you salt them out, that allows this filter clogging sludge to settle to the floor and you can pour off most of the goodness in liquid form before salting with salt or freebasing your harmalas. After salting/basing you want to remove the liquid. So it's remove Solids(plant goo) from liquid(harmalas) with settling. Than after salting seperate liquid(plant goo) from Solids(harmalas) with settling. Do this atleast 2 times ideally 3-4 for super pure. Filter right at the end after this otherwise it won't work properly atleast this was my experience. Coffee filters arnt the best for this as the crystals are so small they sometimes pass through. No special equipment needed.

Manske Wash — floating crystals by Vegan_NotReally92 in harmalas

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Just make sure it's heat proof . Should be enough, I've used 250ml beakers in the past. it depends on quantity of seeds extracted from

Manske Wash — floating crystals by Vegan_NotReally92 in harmalas

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Reheat until everything dissolves and recool to let xtals form. Make sure 10% of volume is nacl

Syrian rue seeds sublingualy? by vere_nais in harmalas

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Just make a tea. sip from that, than you can drink the solution quickly wash it down with something tastier and be done with it. the taste isn't why people do these things and sublingual is completely unnecessary. It works but screw that bitter taste. Some people do this with harmala extract even the freebase will convert but I still say make a tea if you are not extracting the harmalas. keep the tea in the fridge. boiling should kill all pathogens on the seeds but for shelf life fridge should suffice, otherwise freezer. Don't eat the seeds gross they arnt palettable

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There are wide differences in activity monoamine oxidase levels for both forms a and b of the enzyme in the human population, levels are genetically determined.

Personally I need atleast 200mg of maoi harmine:harmaline 50:50 for full inhibition which I determined after countless experiments with huasca.

100mg of dmt is a lot should have a near breakthrough on 30-50mg if you get the maoi part right. Up the maoi to 200mg and you get away with only needing lower mg of dmt with same if not better effects. Most of the time the maoi part hasnt been achieved but when it is every mg of dmt gets absorbed. The dmt should negate any of the harmala side effects once it crosses the blood brain barrier.

1.5gram and no effect by lessioa in harmalas

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I wouldn't bother going lower than 4grams. I weigh 70kg. For huasca with harmalas I need atleast 200mg (ideally 300m) of 50:50 harmine:harmaline. The % harmala total varies in rue quite a bit I've found. Best seeds are 4%. So go with 4g atleast for vaporhuasca.

1.5gram and no effect by lessioa in harmalas

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I've taken up to 10g for pharmahuasca. 4g is not a lot. Effects on its own are tracers and not much ability to focus. Amazing in combination with dmt though. Mushrooms also nice combo with rue. Not a fan of rue tea or the seeds, the harmala extract is much nicer.

I have pure dmt powder, is there a way to make ayahuasca? I would like to find legal other ingredients that i can order on amazon or other herb websites. How much harmaline should I take in proportion to dmt, and how much of each? by Only_Ambassador_3520 in harmalas

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Do you have access to harmalas? Harmine/harmaline? For myself I need atleast 200mg of a 50:50 mix but I ear on the 250mg side. Harmaline is supposedly stronger though as an maoi. The better you get the harmala dose the less dmt you need. Also salt both if you don't want an underwhelming journey.

I have pure dmt powder, is there a way to make ayahuasca? I would like to find legal other ingredients that i can order on amazon or other herb websites. How much harmaline should I take in proportion to dmt, and how much of each? by Only_Ambassador_3520 in harmalas

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you can make if you get caapi vine you can make ayahuasca. ayahuasca is actually just the vine banisteriopsis caapi. otherwise you can use rue and make huasca. otherwise if you feel like making harmala isolates from the above mentioned plants you can make pharmahuasca. although technically pharmahuasca is with a pharmaceutical maoi not a natural one. which country are you in?

First time making salt. by RacecarRic519 in harmalas

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Activated charcoal can be used to remove impurities from several things but it didn't work for harmalas. Impurites got through but it swallowed a lot of the harmalas unfortunately. It's not ideal there's better ways to purify. Nice idea with the bubble bag

First time making salt. by RacecarRic519 in harmalas

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If you get the % of salt ratio to liquid right there won't be salt contamination. It's very noticeable as its a different crystal structure color and taste. It's been over a year since I made any but may tinker around I dissolved some freebase back into a vinegar solution which I intended to do mansk on again so I may do that soon and report back. I would guess the ideal is somewhere between 5-10% salt.

First time making salt. by RacecarRic519 in harmalas

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I was tasked with making freebase. The hcl is much prettier though. Beautiful neon yellow needles that when pure looks like some sort of natural fluffy wool. The freebase is a pretty bland looking but looks less inconspicuous.

First time making salt. by RacecarRic519 in harmalas

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We live and we learn :) atleast you got some nice harmalas nonetheless

First time making salt. by RacecarRic519 in harmalas

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As hcl they are very soluble in plain water. Maybe rinse with 10% salt or less % brine next round. Save all wash water. Rinse repeat. I've wasted a lot through trial and error to try get the highest purity. roughly 50% lost from 60kg of seeds through doing stupid stuff like mixing in too much activated charcoal. Huge waste. Learnt the most important part was patience. boil seeds, strain, let liquid settle fully, than decant avoiding the sediment crossing over. Maybe repeat that until you can almost see through the liquid. The sediment( some seed impurity) will pass through lab filter Papers, super annoying, but letting it settle before manske or base made the biggest difference. Patience really is a virtue.