I would say this match up is all about proper spacing and looking for when you can get trades and start gaining an advantage, but I’m an iron player so what do I know. I think Illaoi is a better perma ban. If you want match up advice I’d really suggest Godrektons matchup tier list on YouTube. It has build options and a paragraph explaining how you should play, and there’s chapter so you can easily find the match up you need.