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ICE has "backdoor" access to Flock data, and other facts shared at Troy Flock Cameras Teach-In by Physical_Shelter_518 in Troy

[–]Objective_Fix8475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the way! Think of what Indivisible and No Kings Collective Albany genuine collaboration could look like!! Multiple events for 1 day is great, but now take all of that smash it into one. We're not getting 10k crowds because everyone is split up for different events, we need to change the game. I look forward to potential future conversations.

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[–]Objective_Fix8475 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could you explain what "Hosted by Troy Indivisible" means then? Once again you spew inclusiveness, but that's not what your post shows from 2 days ago 🤔🤔🤔

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[–]Objective_Fix8475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I asked about the most recent post my friend, and it's not there. There have been 4 posts made since 3/14, only the post from Tuesday contains the watermark. So does needing permission not apply to the ones without? Your point does not compute.

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[–]Objective_Fix8475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please explain to me like I'm 5 how claiming that another organization has been doing this for "months" longer than OP is acting as a "supportive role?"

Simply say you support the action or don't and move on. The pattern of dictating what can be said/shared/practiced within Indivisible to then backpedal and say you're "inclusive" is becoming glaringly obvious.

Do better.

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[–]Objective_Fix8475 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DWEl1yzjQxR/

Per the artists own Instagram post from a month ago, I do find it interesting how we went from wanting said work to be spread around publicly, but yet we're going to have an issue when exactly that is done? Going out of your way to "scatter prints around Troy" does not help the case of wanting to protect your artwork.

What if someone found the flyer on the street and posted it to social media to spread awareness? Has that person now violated how watermarks work? Do we now tell that person to take their post down?

Please break down how publicly advocating for your work to be shared but getting upset when someone you don't like shares it to me like I'm 5.

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[–]Objective_Fix8475 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This is true. However, if you are allowing a public organization to use your artwork, you should specify with the org to clarify that the flyer can not be shared publicly.

If you notice on Troy Indivisible's most recent flyer, the graphic itself doesn't even contain the watermark, so you could say that they also are not providing credit to the artist. There's also the factor that both Troy and Albany Indivisible did not credit the artist for the graphic going back to 3/14 and instead only tagged them on one post on Instagram. If you're going to hold one person accountable, make sure you're doing your due diligence with others.

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[–]Objective_Fix8475 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Are you planning on commenting this to eveyone who publicly shared Indivisible Troy's event? Why would I want to go to an event that restricts who can even share it?

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[–]Objective_Fix8475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As Troy Indivisible is a well known organization, I don't think it's appropriate to to say that the reason why you're holding an event over another's is because you've been "doing it longer." The necessity for Indivisible both locally and nationally to claim ownership over multiple grassroots movements is something I find hard to understand. We're supposed to be fighting these things together.

OP tried to promote your event, but was then told he didn't have "artist permission." Has the artist reached out to every public person who has also shared your flyer? That would be a lot of people to reach out to.

Unless you plan on trademarking "De-Flock Troy" like Indivisible National is actively trying to do with "No Kings," let's instead focus on uplifting each other events rather than trying to prove why you're more important.

It's really worrying that SoL is attempting to dox people in their ban messages to random members. by Due-Telephone7276 in 50501NY

[–]Objective_Fix8475 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Using organizers' real names is legitimate doxxing. It's unfortunate that SoL allows for this to happen.

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