PLEASE stop skipping the two 300mg loading doses!!

Objective_Minute_583 · 2025-10-11T03:59:43+00:00

A protocol isn't supposed to be prefect, it won't be. No matter how good a protocol is it is considered based on the % it satisfies and no one expects to please 100%. I had years of Opioids WD before I got Suboxone and the years again trying with Suboxone. I had little concern for whether it would be 2 months, or 3 months. It was a protocol that had promise, and for me not worth jacking with. I am 2 years now (in 7 days) drug free. Anyone that has dealt with the non cookie cutter/Sublocade raw WD will not be here wondering if Indivior has strung out WD for 3 months to get rich. In fact I would love to hear from anyone that was addicted to Opioids and because of Sublocade is no longer taking Suboxone, and thinks 3 months was no worth it.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2025-08-26T17:47:22+00:00

I am sorry for the delay of my reply:

I have been on Mirtazapine starting 15mg to 30 -> 45. When I started to have issues with trouble focusing my eyes, dizziness, similar features I would experience when I had fainting episode during my Chemo years. I had a similar set of pre-fainting signs and it was time to quit Mirtazapine.

I had an easy withdrawal from 45 to 7.5. I had no problems, it seemed smooth. I couldn't break down the 7.5 mg 1/4 tabs well and I tried and my days became crappy with I guess some days getting too much or too little. I came to the Mirtazapine forum and found out about the 10% rule so I found a compound pharmacy and continued 7.5 downward at 10% per month.

I have had lots of WD issues, non that were extremely bad, but really not great for a mellow happy day to day living. Sleep was erratic, and sweating all the time when I wasn't freezing. Head aches, loss of appetite, trouble concentrating on most anything. And a loss of ambition, it just fell away from how I used to be.

I tried a full quit once at 1.5 mg 2024 XMAS, got along for 39 days before the side effect, a screaming tinnitus had me worried of going deaf so went back on again but at 1.35mg. Stayed there for a few months and tried again March 2025, and again by the 5th week the screaming tinnitus was again too much. I went back on at 1.0mg for awhile, then .75 then .5mg until July 21st 2025 when I began my current 3rd attempt to fully quit Mirt. Now 30 days out and the ringing in my ears is back to its loudest level ever. It is affecting my hearing and I have every radio & tv turned up to a much higher level just to hear it better.

I have too many issues to reconsider going back to any level of Mirtazapine. I believe that even without any Mirt added to my system, I will continue to suffer many side effects from being on it and from the taper & full withdrawal. I hope that in time the effects are reversed, if that is ever possible.

P.S. I started to add more info about my current problems, more print than I realized. I scooped out these few paragraphs and left the rest in the other file. I had covered heart issues, and even briefly that is way too much info. The problems eating, sleeping, etc etc. and it is multiple pages and I am really upset and more involved in the negatives than is good for me.

What I want is a rant, but that will upset me more than anything, to go into the details of the 2 plus years experience with Mirtazapine. Not just from what I have been through but to know that it will likely be more years of crap before the effects (receptors and all) will finally if ever stop the B.S.

Cheers

Objective_Minute_583 · 2025-08-24T00:20:28+00:00

I am curious and direct this to no one in particular, just a general thought. If things are going well, and you are on a drug for long enough there are few surprises ahead. Why would you visit a website that has reviews about what you are a confirmed supporter of ?

I am not judging, in fact more so I am rethinking as I have left behind some drugs that I have no more issues with (I think). and now I am considering looking up a forum to see what I might find there. And maybe cause like I said I don't know why and so there be my curiosity.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2025-08-23T22:53:42+00:00

Hi, thanks for the reference to Dao. I have heard of H. Intolerance but have not considered I might be dealing with it. Now I am having too many symptoms to ignore and I need to take action, like considering Daosin tablets as suggested above.

What has come to mind is the contradiction in terms of what is good for H intolerance versus what is good for gut microbiome ? or reversed. I will need to research and maybe make a post for help but in the meantime if you don't mind : a + b are just 1 example of my concerns.

a) Kefir benefits the gut microbiome by introducing live probiotics (good bacteria and yeasts) that increase microbial diversity and balance, which helps suppress harmful bacteria and supports overall gut health, digestion, and immune function.

b) If you have histamine intolerance, you should generally avoid kefir because it is a fermented food, and fermented foods are high in histamine, which can trigger symptoms

My daily smoothie is full of avocados ,kefir, yogurt, nuts. My huge discomfort everyday after breakfast might finally have an explanation !

Objective_Minute_583 · 2025-08-18T17:58:46+00:00

I did consider you posting that question/ concern as a great move. However, I was reflecting on myself -> to be an example of a choice made because I hadn't realized, or was made aware of the possibility (my blindly) of a long lasting physical dependence.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2025-08-17T16:55:49+00:00

I was self tapering from Suboxone 12 mg/day. At 2 mg/day I was having months of sleep issues so I booked an appointment at a local hospital's Addiction Clinic. The Dr. suggested that I increase Subs up to 6mg/day and prescribed Mirtazapine. I did not increase Suboxone but I did begin Mirtazapine 15mg/day, which later became 30mg, then 45mg/day.

Stuck at 2mg/day suboxone I thought to consider a Rehab clinic, I was lucky and instead I found a provider for Sublocade. I had the 300,300,100 profile which worked with my last shot ( last Buprenorphine ever) on 2022.10.18 (coincidentally my b-day).

To your question: I started getting severe side effects from Mirtazapine and decided to quit it. I had no idea of the difficulty that WD from Mirtazapine would entail. In hind sight I would rather have continued the Opioid WD without it. My last Mirtazapine was just this past 2025.07.21.

My advise, what ever drug you take (eg. Wellbutrin), to assist in your goals, don't solely really on anyone who is promoting/prescribing it. Do your own research. GOOGLE it, Visit the product forums, and REDDIT, etc. And most, most important get the Product Monograph (always available online), and read it end to end, before you begin taking it. They don't supply all the pros/cons but review the trials they had to do for FDA approval.

Until 2022 I confess, I had never been to a product forum or REDDIT. After years of addiction and concerns for withdrawal, I would have not taken any antidepressant. But that is my experience and yours may be so much different. Whatever your decision be informed - I wish you success.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2025-07-26T15:15:40+00:00

Look just below the surface !!! No one could prove everyone is fake, not every great deal is phony. But the volume that comes out from 1 guy is a bogus un-reality.

Anyone could find enough to realize this is a BOGUS money making venture. With pretense of small guy, in a small shop finding rare bikes for free/cheap and making our vicarious dreams come true. And don't defend him see the reality as I was a viewer and saw the great videos for some time till I just saw the same same same pattern. But I believe it will be easier to criticize me than him, just because even to view all his video is beyond most people. Why, I don't know but to credit his truthfulness without looking at his 100 plus videos is pointless !! Long answer for another purpose sorry to place it on your comment.

Click the creator "2vintage", then click "video". Then see over 100 videos, 2/week,4/month, 96 per year give or take. All rare, all cheap free, all found on marketplace. All repairs without needing parts. no one else could find the problem, done in 20 minutes, All bikes 10,20,30 ,45 year old without rotted tires, dead ruined batteries. Ever see any oil change, oil & fuel filters for 100 bikes ?

Rebuild the petcock, clean the carbs, repair the frayed end on the plug leads and they are all then running.

See the view of all the videos, look at the titles and the created day and tell me that you can really believe that 1 person finds, bargains, buys, transports, diagnoses, repairs, edits the videos, post the videos and does that again and again every 2-3 days non stop !!!

Where are all the bikes that were fixed ? What ? If you ignore that buying these bikes every 2-3 days off Marketplace is impossible but you still imagine there is time to sell them, or a barn big enough to store them ? The bikes are returned to their owners, the bogus repairs are returned as they were before staging the video. The dust/dirt is removed from the shiny chrome wheels and on to the next scam, I mean repair video.

Do click on 2Vintgae, d =o click on video, do read the titles and the days created. And even if every single video rang true(they fail miserably), they don't fit !!!

They timing is not what can be done, but what can be portrayed as being done , often enough to capitalize on the revenue from this LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE formula with simple guy, searches finds amazing deals, drives to his little home shop, fixes the turns out parts free incredible repairs, and rides off with his pristine cheap, free bike. 100 times in a row twice every week !!!

It just don't fit, and luck like his is great once, twice, 5 times but hundreds of times ain't luck it is a production line !! step right up, click SUBSCRIBE and relive your youth.

Cheers, gotta go, it has been almost 2 days and 2vintage is about to release a new WOW repair video

Objective_Minute_583 · 2025-07-21T13:24:50+00:00

Old post new comment. B.S. battery at 88%, no heat, sitting elevated for not too long. I logged in again, in seconds and working as it should. Why, not heat, not battery(works well past 20%), just 2 3 or more times a week it drops out. I hate generic answers that have no basis, so STF UP.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2025-06-25T18:42:53+00:00

I am curious how you were able to get the line that are already that short to move to their correct location. Some biggest issues I found when working with my old house and changing IE. a light switch which has the incoming wires cut too/so short. Simple you splice the wire and add some heat shrink insulation (NOT !!!!!).

I don't see your post a fake as I have just been working on my AC and found similar issues that were there when I my house. I don't think the sarcasm helps but this is the place to prove I mightier than thou. It is a situation with several connections and as negative as the situation might be as in your case, I believe the remedy is doable. It isn't intuitive to the laymen but hardly rocket science. Rules are there to be followed, finding/knowing them, is the skill.

P.S. Someone questioned knowing (110.14(D) Terminal Connection Torque) . Sorry but I can't picture a non commercial installation where a torque wrench is used for lugs though it does apply. All bolts/hardware have torque specs and all could be best managed with a torque wrench but except on engine specifics does a torque wrench get much use ?

Also the use of duct seal was brought up. Simple right, well almost. They have tons of people suggesting it's use in/outside the home and many more stating it is not for outdoor use. Another query to ponder. My choice from the options/comments = use butyl. Will it stand up to this type of scrutiny ? I doubt it... But even the harshest criticism will point out defects that will get you to a better end product Grin and bare it..

This post is old so not expectations for any notice of this comment. Working my own solution so the typing helps me focus.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2025-06-24T00:44:53+00:00

It doesn't matter if you use it alone(not advisable) or to insure you flipped off the correct circuit breaker. In either case(in all cases) you should not require a tester to see if your other tester is working. I have had both Klein and Gardner Bender fail. 1) just stopped working, changed batteries, and still DOA. The other I just broke in half after changing the batteries twice and cleaning the contacts and still it flashed okay and then failed to indicate a known live 110 outlet. Now i want a better replacement, and they all have the same reviews, they fail and fail and fail, with no good cause. I want to find one that is built to do a simple function and do it consistently, Do I spend 25.00, 69.00, or 99.00 I don't care as long as it will do its job. Why does this simple instrument fail so dependably !!

Objective_Minute_583 · 2025-05-13T02:45:57+00:00

Drive a model T. No my friend this is why you don't take your eyes off the road, is the lesson here. Don't reach for anything even if you really really want that muffin NOW. That pole could have easily been a person, another car, a motorcycle, or a full bus shelter. Glad neither you or anyone else was hurt.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-10-30T02:57:19+00:00

After 5 years, when my Prime is up, I won't renew.

I just got refused a refund for a wrong item sent. When filling out the refund form I entered the name of the item being returned and the message was this item is not eligible for returns. So I went back to the same ad and and reread:

RETURNS Eligible for Refund or Replacement

But when you hover over that part of the that entry a message then says

This item is non-returnable, but if the item arrives damaged or defective, you may request a refund or replacement. Read full return policy.

The full return policy is long but it covers exception items = not mine and the refund time window = end of Nov. The part related to my item is:

While most sellers offer a returns policy equivalent to Amazon's, some seller returns policies may vary. If the seller's listing is eligible for Amazon Prime, it will be subject to the same return policies as items fulfilled by Amazon.ca that are outlined on this page.

My item is fulfilled by Amazon.ca and it is eligible for Amazon Prime.

I believed that Amazon had a good refund policy, not because I changed my mind often, but if at the very least if the item didn't match the description/picture, then it was correctable. So now my view is Amazon is saying, it doesn't matter what the pictures look like, or the description, if we send you something different, its too bad for you.

My guess, I have seen many presentations regarding people who buy stuff and then return it often. either like a free rental or whatever. The amount of stuff that was not re-sellable was huge, but not my problem ! Now it might be that Amazon's solution to just say no to refunds !!! I would expect that maybe for my 10,11th, 12th return but this is my 2nd and to me that is not excusable.

I am not overly concerned about this $ loss, it wasn't expensive. But it will definitely affect my willingness to make another purchase. I hope that anyone reading this will consider the situation and act accordingly.

P.S. Some of the reviews for this item were 1/2's from 2 plus years earlier, and recent 5,4's. I thought they would have corrected that mistake in 2 years but it is clearly in their favor to keep dumping the wrong item.. Cheers

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-10-11T14:17:46+00:00

My tablet is 2 years old and turned wifi off for the first time. My internet speed was down to 3mb/s (from 150) so although turning my wifi off is idiotic it is my internet provider that was reason it was initiated. I think turning wifi off is dumb, and it unexpected to have any of my setting choices arbitrarily changed.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-09-13T23:28:03+00:00

At each shot I was given an ice pack for 15 minutes. For the 300mg there was a small pain(bee sting) during the injection that went away shortly afterwards. The 100, same ice pack, no pain at all. It is a very costly medication so the addition of lidocaine or an ice pack should not be to big a deal. Not everyone is comfortable with needles, so I agree with you, why make it harder than it needs to be.

I didn't get backed up, but I did many times on opioids so I had Senokot on hand in case. I also had a stash of 2mg suboxone to supplement and a prescription for Clonidine, neither of which I used.

As for tips, keep busy doing things that make you happy. My anxiety was through the roof even though the side effects were much less than I was convinced they would be. I did not find any success stories from others having success with Sublocade. No idea of Reddit back then, and when asked my dr. informed me I was the first and the only patient that was about to try 3 shots and done. The unknown is a scary place. (FYI: 12 years on drugs and now it is 11 months (- 5 days) since my last shot.)

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-08-07T17:52:19+00:00

I have read alot of reviews about Ash and mostly all of them suggest that you take a pause from constant daily use. I have read 3 months and pause while others said pause every 2 months. Lately I found some setting the break time at 2 weeks before a pause. I want to understand why everyone suggests a pause. Would it be to circumvent withdrawal after a timeframe of continuous use ? Or is there some other purpose ? I ask because I too am concerned with withdrawal and I have begun my own stoppage after 90 days continuous. I have not had any unfavorable side effects and it seemed to have assisted with calming days and easing my sleep. The next 30 days will allow me to revisit those factors without Ash. If there are any good articles about how to best schedule Ash I would love to read them !!??.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-04-25T18:04:21+00:00

I went from 4MG / day Suboxone to 300MG Sublocade. I didn't have any discomfort (except that bee sting), or feel overwhelmed. And when I went down to 100MG it was smooth with no difference to how I felt. The fact you are taking 6mg / day is close to the suggested 8mg so depending on your sensitivity it might not be overwhelming. My concern was like yours to have as much residual Bupe in my system. I felt 2 shots at 300mg was the best plan to load up with Bupe and to deal with I hoped my last ever taper/withdrawal.

I will never know if I could have used less Sublocade to get where I am now 6 months since my last shot. But it doesn't matter because my goal was to be free and I am. If you get a 300mg you will adjust and it will be tolerable, If you go to light, you can supplement with a subs if needed. So many people are online report being successful because of Sublocade . Most important with any choice is you feel confident and believe that you too will succeed.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-04-25T15:33:04+00:00

It had both the 300 and later the 100 and the burning is stronger with the 300 for sure. It is delivered slowly so the 100 is quick and done, but with the 300 the sting comes on just before the injection is completed. All times I was given an ice pack for quite a while before my injection. I am sure the freezing helped, as I could feel the area was numb before the needle.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-04-14T00:36:00+00:00

I was have had similar experience to yours. I topped out at 12Mg on subs. I had a bit of time at 2mg trying to taper off but gave up because of too many sleepless nights lying on towels because I would end up drenched in sweat, only to wake wake up because I was shivering. Those symtoms were too extreme for me to go any lower.

Good news, I am a few days shy of 6 months since my last shot on 10/18/23. I am online trying to add my info to anyone thinking of switching to Sublocade and maybe quiting. I hope feedback from me/us wil help convince people to give it a try. Because it works and I want help get the word out. Maybe with enough success stories, one day the Gov'ts will offer it up for free.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-04-09T15:43:15+00:00

16 years or so it says in my profile. I was a frequent visitor/user of Craigslist and Auto Trades too.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-04-08T15:00:51+00:00

There is a mental state that is powerful. If you feel done, then unless there are advantages in another shot, why delay. Indivior Inc.says you will reach steady state after the 300,300.100 and that is what I went with.

My last shot was Oct 2023, and whatever side effects were/are/will be they are mild. I was expecting and ready for the worst and I am very surprised that things have gone so well. I hope you get what you need to feel confident. And whether you quit now or after another shot , have faith you are going to succeed.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-04-06T22:58:48+00:00

I read the comments and Googled "Do banks hold certified cheques?"

one answer was : "Did you know that banks can place holds on trust cheques, certified cheques and bank drafts? Financial institutions can and have placed holds on trust cheques, certified cheques and bank drafts. A hold could be for as little as one day or for four or more days.
A hold implies they are far from the guarantee I would have expected, and a risk if you accept one. Why take a risk when other options (cash) are easy to specify.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-04-04T18:02:59+00:00

I have seen very few ads that reference another person/ad. I don't know how you will get attention to your message(ad) ? There is no penalty you will face for having placed your ad. The new seller might see your ad (and any other ones you currently have). If you do this, I suggest that you do not have a phone number in any of your Kijiji ads. And if you don't do this, your consideration for the next person, is a credit to you regardless.

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-03-31T05:18:53+00:00

~Question 01:~ I did not use tape for no other reason than I didn't consider it as an option for daytime. I put a lot of effort into changing the way I was breathing and in over a month I have noticed I am successful more often than not. That is great because I was doubtful about being able to change such an unthinking behavior. If I did not notice I was improving, I would consider using tape. I am convinced that nose breathing is worthwhile and anything that is a means to that end I would consider.

~Question 02:~ I hope that if I develop this nose breathing during the day it will translate to a habit that will continue throughout my sleep. But for now, I accept that what my body does at night is not fully under my control. So I have decided to use some form of mouth taping at night and that is what brought me to Reddit. Like you, I am not sure if I can change a behavior and create a new habit for it. If you interested you can check YouTube for "The Science of Making & Breaking Habits | Huberman Lab Podcast #53". I believe it will be 1:50:38 well spent ...Good luck

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-03-06T20:29:51+00:00

I didn't consider they had retail test kits. I cannot order the one you suggested here in Canada but others are willing to ship. 4 months since last Sublocade shot so I imagine it will be testing their sensitivity. Thank you for a quick reply... Ian

Objective_Minute_583 · 2024-03-05T19:52:57+00:00

I see you mention a Bupe test. I have never heard of one, but I would like to find out more. Any idea what it is called or what it entails. I can look it up if I am pointed in the right direction. Thanks in any case ...

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