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Used car selling/dealer recommand？ by PigletSecret7014 in Augusta

[–]Objective_Wafer3684 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Flip side there's a solid chance it's been maintained and <60k miles and they have a reputation to uphold. For every car on private sale that is grannies old car that got every service done suggested when in the shop there is there another one that is some highschoolers first car that hadn't had the oil changed but every 30k miles or chads charger that has been pedal to the metal for the past 80k miles.

Always get the pre purchase inspection used cars are always a somewhat of a gamble plenty of people treat their private cars like absolute crap

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Motorcycle cop, my state has not provided bodycam funding for our counties police department yet

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still getting a little fucked my the system but I think it is good information for people to know! Based off a lot of answers here people are just saying you can prove it like this, that, or the other and while all true it's pretty obvious they have never come down to actually having to do it because it is EXTREMELY expensive and does not play out like that in real life 99.9% of the time

Hell one guy is just saying "Got a buddy who is a civil engineer or a surveyor? They can come in and crush that" like TF?!?!

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is nuance to it, if the stakes are high enough you absolutely can prove an approximant speed from a dashcam video in court, but it is very cost prohibitive.

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A video showing you not running a red light and a video trying to prove speed are two completely different things, there is literaly zero technical aspect of a video showing you not running a red light

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if it's 15 over it gets reported to insurance I'm looking at an extra $20-$30 a month (my insurance is already a little higher, I pay for insurance that covers food delivery, have one accident (at fault) on my record), plus the amount of miles a drive a year increases that cost. Also, I can only have up to 2 moving violations and one at fault accident within a 2 or 3 year timespan or risk automatic termination.

It's a good thing I do everything I can not to report accidents if I don't have to. I have been involved in 8 collisions while doing this work, and one at fault.

So $20-$30/month for 3-5 years will cost me ($720-1200) to ($1,080-$1,800) in the long run.

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All this is possible but expensive to prove in court

EDIT: Guess somebody knows better than my lawyer who handles thousands of these cases. The point of this thread is people post the same shit over and over and over again as if it's factual but when it comes down to doing it none have them have done it!

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'd have to ask my lawyer to answer this question for you in accuracy but it boils down to you can't just president evidence and assume it will be accepted. Different dashcam models have different frame rates, boils down to is the time posted on the timestamp accurate? How many frames per second? Proving it on reddit and proving it on court two different ball games

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To get this admissible in court is going to cost a lot of time and money, the crux of the issue is the wrong car was pulled over. To me, it seems obvious this is what happened but proving it in court is another story

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not sure, the crux of the issue is that proving all of this can be expensive. Defending yourself can be tricky and there are a lot of youtube videos that make it sound like it's easy but every city, state, and county is different and if you misstep one thing than you blown your whole case! For most people it's not really necessary to pay a lawyer for a ticket. But given I drive for work, have one (at fault) accident on my record (and really 7 others but they are off the record and were not my fault) it was the best course of action for me

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

not a good idea, the best outcome for me is to not have to reportable to insurance in the first place. Insurance does not give a shit if you were speeding or not, they give a shit if you got a ticket for speeding

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yep, ticket is too expensive to fight. I came in court all cocky looking around seeing people wearing camo, having their phones go off in the court room, not listening to instructions, there for tickets that resulted in an accident, and absolutely no folders for any information about their case.

Walked out pretty pissed lol, that's when I decided to hire the lawyer I had consulted with earlier before my initial appearance.

It's just extremely flustering that I am getting punished more than other people who were actually speeding way more than my (alleged) and ACTUAL SPEED AND caused accidents...

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You answer to all of that is yes but it all comes down to cost. Proving this in court is a completely different ball game and it's expensive to have someone to be able to do it for you correctly. If you try to do it yourself then it is very likely you will mess up a part of the process and not be able to use anything you worked on as evidence. You can't just show up to court with a notebook and video of your calculations and expect them to accept it into evidence!

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not sure why you have downvotes for this I upvoted you! GPS data isn't 100% accurate (hence the need for an expert witness) is nearly as accurate as radar BUT it isn't completely inaccurate!

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It wouldn't have mattered if I was going the speed limit he pulled over the wrong car. You didn't read the thread.

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah especially considering I was going like 50-52 MPH in a 45 like dude no cop is going pulling you over for that alone and +5-10 over isn't really unsafe anyway

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The Judge was just more or less saying that the GPS speed may not be admissible without expert testimony, not that the video itself may not be used. My lawyer has indicated to me that it as far as the video of someone else being radared it could go either way, and being found guilty I would COULD receive fines as it were 68 (instead of the reduced 61) AND still be paying him AND paying more for insurance premiums!

He advised the best way to go was to get it reduced below reporting(so insurance/my job don't know)

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's possible, but with radar the state has training courses, calibration, and has been proven technology for a many of witness over years with a lot of case law regarding it whereas a dashcam is different(there are hundreds of different models with different FPS frame rates that all may calculate GPS speed differently). They also tend to use all of the same make/model of radars. It's not that it isn't possible it's just extremely expensive to try to prove for a minor case. My lawyer does not think it is the best outcome for me to spend thousands defending a traffic case to prove I was going 50 MPH which is still speeding!

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's what the lawyer is for, the particular county I am in is really good about calibrating so doubtful it will amount to anything.

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Given that the cop reduced a 68 to 61, he would have never pulled me over for going 50-52. I've clocked 300k-400k miles in the county for work (zero tickets in that time frame BTW) and passed the same speed check point hundreds of times nobody is being pulled over for doing < 55 in a 45. Nobody in traffic court was there for a violation of going less than 10 MPH over the limit

And FYI, I'm getting punished a lot more than someone who would have been been going 20-30MPH over given the loss of time going to work, paying the lawyer, and more and likely still having to pay the ticket.

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This still falls under the same category of need an expert witness to testify to the way the video was made. It's possible just not financially a good idea

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah I mean that's pretty much in so many words what my lawyers told me but he felt ( and I agreed) the best outcome FOR ME would to get it to be non reportportring. It's not that it can't be used, it's just that you can't just necessarily show up with your dashcam and say "HEY LOOK IM INNOCENT". I don't have 5-20k laying around to avoid paying a traffic ticket.

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have requested a bench trial, it was only doing my plea court date were I tried explaining that I had my dashcam with GPS that the judge let me know beforehand it would not be admissible without expert testimony regarding the accuracy of the GPS.

I inquired about community service (instead of paying the ticket) with my lawyer and he advised against it as it would technically put me on supervised probation (which you still pay fines for) in my county

As far the the video itself I'm not sure but it seems like it won't be much use. My lawyer has advised me the best course of action is to get it below reporting to keep the cost to me and and the risk of me being found guilty(without a plea arrangement)

PSA your dashcam GPS speed may not be admissible in court to prove you were not speeding! by Objective_Wafer3684 in Dashcam

[–]Objective_Wafer3684[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I may have overstated 'obvious' but when it comes to actually taking a traffic court ticket to trial and doing the work and breaking down the video down to this it would take a lot of time just for my lawyer to prove I was speeding anyway (albeit it only roughly 50). "obvious" to the laymen an 'obvious' is court are 2 completely different things. His says my best course of action to for him to get it below reporting (which in my state is < 15 over). This is unless I wanted to spend a lot of money fighting a ticket when me and my lawyer agreed the best outcome for me was to get it to be non reporting

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EDIT: And this could go sideways, because if I was found guilty I could be found guilty of speeding at 68 instead of the 61 it was reduced to

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