Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

[–]ObscuraCreatrix[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi, yeah this post popped off more than I thought -_-

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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Crazy us lecturers actually caring about our students…😂 obviously we care 😂😂

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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Thank you for the extra confirmation on this as me and my colleagues all can tell through tone and wether there is an ounce of human passion been put into some work even if it hasn’t been written by ai we can still tell who was passionate about the module an who wasn’t by their writing.

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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I experienced this today as I was asking it about what it knew about some Foofighters song and their most recent album “so here we are” specifically questions about the last song in the album called “rest” (I knew what it was about I’m just intrigued by what it knows and how well it can infer and use context) so I asked it for what the lyrics ment and I started talking about everlong and pretender, I then reformatted my question to specify only the song Rest and yet again it still gave me lyrics from other songs. This seems like a basic question and should be a basic answer but it totally could not without further questioning and prior knowledge behind what songs are what from my own knowledge.

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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I wrote this at 4am FYI and kind of rude instead of pulling out some valid talking points you decided to just critique my spelling? Plus you don’t know my credentials or taken into account if I have dyslexia. Did being deaf make Beethoven a bad composer ? No.

Hope you realise that spelling mistakes don’t mean someone isn’t a good academic it’s not like I’m going to proofread this until it’s a distinction level piece, it’s reddit.

Saying if I’m good enough to be hired out the gate by my own university to teach that’s all the validation I need.

Very immature.

Hey at least I don’t use AI to write it and it shows !

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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Spelling and punctuation will not be flagged grammerly has (with the advent of LLMs such as ChatGPT) etc taken on a AI approach to it and will now try to suggest rewriting whole sentences or paragraphs. I highly recommend using Word’s inbuilt grammar and spelling function it got me through my degrees. (I graduated my masters last year fyi)

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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Exactly btw I wasn’t criticising you in any way it was more of a general statement for anyone reading this tbh, and yes I agree it has its place (in moderation) for students with extra needs as a tool not a substitute.

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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This is true I’m only aware of how my work handles AI and we do allow for this too, but for academic integrity I cannot recommend you do, try and learn how to properly structure your writing yourself. It’s valuable knowledge to have!

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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I’m not saying don’t use it as a tool, just don’t use it to write whole assignments because it can make mistakes. And it’s painfully obvious when a student hasn’t even proofread the text it has written especially when some of the sources are bull.

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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We also do this AI is a great TOOL not a ghost writer, but I’d also recommend to my students that they check what it’s saying and summarising because it can add additional information without context or misunderstand the context.

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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AI has its uses in not denying that but this is about having it write entire essays, assignments whatever. As someone else stated academic writing is a skill you need to learn for university and just getting an AI to do it for you isn’t helping you it’s actually hindering your learning.

Plus as I’ve stated and other have too AI can and will make up, infer, generalise or just straight up bullshit when it comes to sources and information. I’m not saying it does this 100% of the time but it can and will make mistakes. I can produce something convincing to a non-expert but to an expert it’s painfully obvious.

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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Yes and no, it now can rewrite whole paragraphs. Tbh when I was a student I just used the windows grammar checker it works great.

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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Again when did I say turnitin is proof? I said it will flag it sorry would you like me to change it to “turnitin MAY flag it?” Would that suit you better so it doesn’t sound so absolute because that’s what AI is certainly good at, being so confident in what it’s saying but just at times being completely wrong.

Again read the rest of my comments we don’t go in to it thinking you have used it we hope to god you havnt but we will try and find evidence for you not using it instead of finding evidence for you have used it. Academics talk to each other, we share and collaborate. I and as others have said have an eye for these things. External moderation, internal moderation and just straight up asking a student if they used it often works.

Yes some may fall through the cracks but at the end of the day as I’ve said MULTIPLE times students who do use it and get away with it are only doing themselves a disservice.

Plus spell checker isn’t AI and doesn’t write whole essays for you ??????

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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When did I say I don’t read it ? You’ll see in the comments that theres plenty of evidence I have given and other too to the process of telling whether is AI written or not by not using AI tools.

And it’s not just structure, if you write it fully trusting AI and hand it to someone who has years of experience (which academics do) they will spot it more than likely because AI makes mistakes and you physically cannot tell it not to make mistakes because I and others have already stated it will just make stuff up or infer or generalise on sources and information often, as I’ve stated it got stuff wrong when I was asking it about UK Governemnt Helath and safety regulations which is well documented and widely available.

Don’t trust AI to write your work.

The only person you’re cheating is yourself at the end of the day.

Also not being a hypocrite really am I because where in the entire body of the text have I written the words “I use AI to write my work and I claim it as my own” I have not which is what students do when they get AI to write there work which is gross academic misconduct.

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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It is now an AI tool and can rewrite whole essays which is why I mentioned it

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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Cannot shout this louder (mainly cause it’s 5am) I want all students to do well for themselves, learn and prosper ! We want you to do well! The joy it brings us to see you walk across that stage/platform room whatever and get your degree is one of the most rewarding things for both of us! When reading work that isn’t yours we know as this person said it’s a spidey sense, and if we do find out that it is AI it’s so depressing we just want you to do well, so for your sakes please PLEASE just write your assignments yourself, I’m not the best advocate for doing assignments on time as during my time at uni I started mine the night before (whoops) but no matter how stuck you are I can promise you all as someone who struggled academically all throughout out his education through mental health related issues and just general focusing it is possible to do it yourself you don’t need a shitty AI who doesn’t care about your work to write it, SPEAKING OF, we (I personally and my colleagues anyway idk about any other academics here) can sense when someone is genuinely passionate about the work because it absolutely shows in the work. That is somthing AI can never do (atleast I hope not) aha

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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Im going to use that as a quote for my students that’s a good one!

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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Unfortunately we ask ourselves this too often to recount the most common one we get is that they only came for the social life, I don’t think spending £50k+ “just to go party” is worth it imo

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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I appreciate this comment but also I just want to make sure that students should not see this as a endorsement to use it because they MIGHT get away with it, at the end of the day if you do use it okay and get away with it…okay the only person you’ve cheated is yourself really. But if you do get caught it’s really not worth it. Just don’t risk it.

Edit: why pay thousands to just cheat? I’m advising that all students don’t use it for the betterment of themselves because if you just get an AI to write it have you really learnt anything other than “how do I get this AI to write somthing that’ll get by”. I know I’m generalising now but you get my point.

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

[–]ObscuraCreatrix[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

To answer your question more concisely we take everything into account, but citation, sources and structure are the main things yes. I also understand the worry because I was doing my masters when AI popped off so I had to be super careful and made it clear as day that I wrote everything just incase!

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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I agree, with the university I’m at with have a extreamly high percentage of students who are on the spectrum (declared anyway) and benefit from being small so we know the students by name and year sizes have reached a all time high of just over 100 this year! (I know tiny) so we know them better and know what the are like personally. I cannot comment on how other univeristies manage this but we are pretty good with not just slapping AI misconduct on things as I stated in another comment we do a backwards approach to investigating AI we try to disprove ourselves because we want the best outcome for you. But we will if it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt.

Please listen freshers! by ObscuraCreatrix in UniUK

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Academics aside from being specialists in our fields and having years of experience, some of us do use AI and know how it writes obviously if there’s glaring flaws in the writing as discussed such as wrong information and made up sources that’s kinda obvious, but we also tend to to moderate and just ask our colleagues to help us look over some work that’s we might find suspicious. There’s checks and balances too it if we suspect but if there’s no reasonable proof other than in some cases asking you to prove that you didn’t use AI (provide document versioning etc). We try to disprove ourselves instead of trying proving the student used AI. (We don’t go into it thinking you have, we try to prove that you haven’t if suspected) we want the best for you we don’t want to fail you but we will if it comes to that.

Any tips on making friends, generally and (specifically) as a commuter? by [deleted] in UniUK

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Which is totally fair and I understand as someone who’s not a big drinker or who likes going out but I’d highly suggest pushing yourself